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#61    Wyrdlight

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 03:55 AM

I think some of the view here are extremely harsh towards the lady in question.

Try and view it from her point of view.

She has made a terrible mistake, and as a result has failed her duty of care to her patients  failed in her professional conduct, almost certainly lost her job, faces global humiliation, ridicule and scorn.  Everyone will know her, she will be dogged by the press for the foreseeable future, she may even be arrested.

Her life, as she knew it, is essentially over.  

In the heat of the moment, how do you escape the horror of your situation? what do you do? you make it go away. How do you do that? you die.

She made a bad call, and the pressure it must have placed upon her would have been massive.  And she snapped.

Ive seen people rage out and do things that get them arrested, people rage out at stab their partners on a daily basis.  All this poor lady did was, under immense stress and with a life-outlook in tatters due to recent events, took the only way out.

I cant say alot of other people would not do the same.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:17 AM

View PostOverSword, on 07 December 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

I agree.  It was a tastless joke but still, it's nothing to end your life over, and any half-way stable and reasonable sane person knows this.  The question that should be asked is why such a fragile person is placed in such a high pressure environment?

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:20 AM

View PostWyrdlight, on 08 December 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:

I think some of the view here are extremely harsh towards the lady in question.

Try and view it from her point of view.

She has made a terrible mistake, and as a result has failed her duty of care to her patients  failed in her professional conduct, almost certainly lost her job, faces global humiliation, ridicule and scorn.  Everyone will know her, she will be dogged by the press for the foreseeable future, she may even be arrested.

Her life, as she knew it, is essentially over.  

In the heat of the moment, how do you escape the horror of your situation? what do you do? you make it go away. How do you do that? you die.

She made a bad call, and the pressure it must have placed upon her would have been massive.  And she snapped.

Ive seen people rage out and do things that get them arrested, people rage out at stab their partners on a daily basis.  All this poor lady did was, under immense stress and with a life-outlook in tatters due to recent events, took the only way out.

I cant say alot of other people would not do the same.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:25 AM

This is a bit odd.

Giving confidential information to an impostor over the phone resulting in suicide of the nurse that gave said information to the impostor?

It kinda does sound like she was murdered for what she did...but why?

I know its a crazy theory, but still something to consider...but we can't jump to conclusions here.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:29 AM

View Post-M7, on 08 December 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

This is a bit odd.

Giving confidential information to an impostor over the phone resulting in suicide of the nurse that gave said information to the impostor?

It kinda does sound like she was murdered for what she did...but why?

I know its a crazy theory, but still something to consider...but we can't jump to conclusions here.
i thought she merely patched the call through to the nurse who did give the information. am i getting this wrong?


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:20 AM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 08 December 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

I worked in a hospital as a student years ago..   The doctors, head nurses ect  would ball anyone out for the slightest mistake and raised hell  if needed ..

If this happened at the hospital I once worked in, I would say that nurse would have been grilled and her head bitten off for falling for such a prank..In fact, I'd dare say a lot of the staff would have made it hell for her, and likely made her think she was going to face jail time too..
Because I have witnessed nurses and even some doctors getting chewed out for simple mishaps, if a royal was in their care and this happened, I would lay money that that nurse would have faced a lot of heat... If she took her own life afterwards, the hospital would then say - "We didn't blame her, nor did we discipline her for it"..  They would have to say that to cover their own asses, as they wouldn't want people to think she faced hell and took her life as a result..   And we know that this prank did cause an uproar !!

I am not suggesting this is what happened to the nurse, but I do know  she would have faced hell at my local hospital .  

That prank was indeed  messed up and not a bit funny.. I feel sorry for the poor nurse that took her life
This is exactly what has been bothering me all day too BM.  The stance of the hospital that the nurse had their full support and that they didn't blame her is completely disengenuous - why would she feel so depressed about something she was being positively supported in dealing with?  I call BS from the Hospital Admin on this, she must have had to deal with something more than being told she had inadvertantly transferred a hoax call to the nurse on duty in Kate's ward?  Seriously, since when is transferring a call enough on it's own to make someone feel suicidal?

The prank was messed up but hardly serious, what was serious was the nurse giving all those details over the phone to said Queen - not the nurse's fault because she had no way of knowing if it was kosher to tell the Queen of England "I'm sorry that is private information and due to patient confidentiality blah, blah", yes that nurse was placed in an awkward position by fraudsters, yet she did not commit suicide.  It seems that the finger was pointed at the receptionist for putting the call through and likely announcing that it was the Queen on the line, there is no way they stood behind her when it all blew up by what happened next, I just can't see them patting her on the back and saying "it's ok, it's not your fault", I too have known way to many management types who a name and head to roll so they can cast aside blame from themselves for poor procedues etc.

As you say, we can't know for sure but like I said it's been niggling at me and I smell a rat outside of them two DJ's in this.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:26 AM

Just a few more things ..

That article is a mish mash and completely unclear as to what took place and when.

The fact she committed suicide being related to the prank - where is the evidence this was the cause?  Was there a note?  Did she tell someone she was going to do this because she felt so bad, and if so, why was she allowed out of the hospital ?  Especially if, as they claim, they were so wholly supportive of her?

It happened in an alley near the hospital, how odd - she left the hospital in an extremely depressed state, after she had received support?

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 07 December 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

I am a royalist. If i was looking after the queens grandsons wife in the best hospital in europe i would be quite happy. If i then recieved a call from the queen and prince charles i would be very excited.

If the following day i was told that it wasnt the queen and i commited a crime by giving out personal information of the royal family i would be devestated. Firstly, because my good job was likely to get rid of me and because the whole world heard her excitment and was laughing at her.

In no way was she unstable and i suggest that any of you in her situation may have done the same. I live in NZ and i heard the phone call. I doubt there was any place she could have escaped to get away from it.


Thats pretty much what I think. I think she wouldve been proud to know who was in the hospital she was working in and for it to all then be turned into a joke wouldve been very painful for her considering.

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 08 December 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

I would say that nurse would have been grilled and her head bitten off for falling for such a prank..In fact, I'd dare say a lot of the staff would have made it hell for her,   *Snip*   if a royal was in their care and this happened, I would lay money that that nurse would have faced a lot of heat... If she took her own life afterwards, the hospital would then say - "We didn't blame her, nor did we discipline her for it"..  They would have to say that to cover their own asses, as they wouldn't want people to think she faced hell and took her life as a result..  

I think that too. I think it wouldve been very hard around her work colleagues and her boss. I think they likely made her feel shame and like she had shamed the hospitals reputation. It is hard to imagine everyone being supportive to her.


Anyway it was horrible news to read this morning but I also feel sorry for DJ's. They have to live with this too and its like a stain on them. Also when I read people saying they should punish the DJ's, I tend to think the only reason DJ's do this kind of thing is because a large portion of the population enjoys it. So it's almost like punishing the gladiators at the colosseum for their fighting. We give them a thumbs down this time but most of the time they get a thumbs up.

Edited by Kazahel, 08 December 2012 - 08:43 AM.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:55 AM

View PostWyrdlight, on 08 December 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:

I think some of the view here are extremely harsh towards the lady in question.

Try and view it from her point of view.

She has made a terrible mistake, and as a result has failed her duty of care to her patients  failed in her professional conduct, almost certainly lost her job, faces global humiliation, ridicule and scorn.  Everyone will know her, she will be dogged by the press for the foreseeable future, she may even be arrested.

Her life, as she knew it, is essentially over.  

In the heat of the moment, how do you escape the horror of your situation? what do you do? you make it go away. How do you do that? you die.

She made a bad call, and the pressure it must have placed upon her would have been massive.  And she snapped.

Ive seen people rage out and do things that get them arrested, people rage out at stab their partners on a daily basis.  All this poor lady did was, under immense stress and with a life-outlook in tatters due to recent events, took the only way out.

I cant say alot of other people would not do the same.

It's also possible she didnt want to shame her family . Her kids will be teased at school .There's a lot of things going on,when something of this magnitude occurs.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:50 AM

View PostlibstaK, on 08 December 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

Just a few more things ..

That article is a mish mash and completely unclear as to what took place and when.

The fact she committed suicide being related to the prank - where is the evidence this was the cause?  Was there a note?  Did she tell someone she was going to do this because she felt so bad, and if so, why was she allowed out of the hospital ?  Especially if, as they claim, they were so wholly supportive of her?

It happened in an alley near the hospital, how odd - she left the hospital in an extremely depressed state, after she had received support?
The nurses said that after what happened, she felt sad and very Lonely

Anyway why do grown up adults need to prank? It's sad and pathetic


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 08 December 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

The nurses said that after what happened, she felt sad and very Lonely

Anyway why do grown up adults need to prank? It's sad and pathetic
feeling Lonely amongst your work colleagues translates into feeling unsupported and victimised imo.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:11 PM

Its a sad situation, we had a nurse 110% dedication to her job, that the sense of humiliation was all to much. this poor girl would have been hounded by the press not just local but world press the moment she walked out the hospital to go home, no doubt this coupled with a meeting with hospital management proved all to much, and to her it must have seemed like the walls were closing in. its sad when someone thinks the only way out is to end it all.

The Royal Family didn't even lodge a complaint against any of the staff. and no one i know was blaming the staff involved. it was no big deal outside of the tabloid bubble - its sad no one told her that.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:21 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 08 December 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

This is exactly what has been bothering me all day too BM.  The stance of the hospital that the nurse had their full support and that they didn't blame her is completely disengenuous - why would she feel so depressed about something she was being positively supported in dealing with?  I call BS from the Hospital Admin on this, she must have had to deal with something more than being told she had inadvertantly transferred a hoax call to the nurse on duty in Kate's ward?  Seriously, since when is transferring a call enough on it's own to make someone feel suicidal?

I agree with you..  I have seen a few nurses and other hospital staff break down over slight mishaps in the past.. If they gave her hell over it, it would not surprise me..

I remember  back in my days as a 20 year old student..I saw a trainee nurse  get a call to a ward where an old woman had soiled herself and fell.. The trainee nurse let out a small gasp with her hand over her mouth.. it was minor.. But after the clean up and all was sorted, that trainee nurse was seen leaving the office in tears, she was put on a warning..almost fired for that one gasp .. Working in that hospital was like walking on egg shells, you had to watch your every move..

When I was attending my hospital appointment while still pregnant with little Aaron,  they were trying to draw blood from me..  The nurse could not get one of my vain up.. She was lightly tapping my arm and getting nowhere....  I told her to slap my arm over and over hard until she got a vain..I too was slapping the arm off myself lol.... A doctor  walked in and saw the nurse slapping my arm and she looked at us in horror... I spoke up and said - I asked the nurse to slap my arm and I too am trying to help..The doctor smiled with relief..

All you could hear from me was - Come on, you can slap my arm harder than that? My unborn son has kicked me harder lol   They laughed it off..   But I can imagine if I had not said a thing, that nurse  most likely would have faced trouble !!

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 08 December 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

Its a sad situation, we had a nurse 110% dedication to her job, that the sense of humiliation was all to much. this poor girl would have been hounded by the press not just local but world press the moment she walked out the hospital to go home, no doubt this coupled with a meeting with hospital management proved all to much, and to her it must have seemed like the walls were closing in. its sad when someone thinks the only way out is to end it all.

The Royal Family didn't even lodge a complaint against any of the staff. and no one i know was blaming the staff involved. it was no big deal outside of the tabloid bubble - its sad no one told her that.

I read that William and Kate were deeply saddened from hearing of her death...   The entire situation was truly sad..   That prank could have sent off a chain reaction of sheer hell..  With the uproar over it,  the nurse taking her own life...What if poor Kate being in the early stages of pregnancy and her hormones playing up  ( as in most cases they do ) and so Kate  suffers from the horrors of what she has heard and miscarries?   I am glad she didn't , The thing about women  in the early stages of pregnancy, it is vital  not to upset them and get them worked up...

I recall in my early stages of pregnancy, I would have blamed myself on just about anything that went wrong, even if I was not involved..  Pregnancy hormones can do that easy.. I am glad Kate is ok now, but I am sad for the nurse  and her family .. The people I blame for creating such a sad situation are the pranksters, they kicked it off and it snowballed

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:59 PM

View Post-M7, on 08 December 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

This is a bit odd.

Giving confidential information to an impostor over the phone resulting in suicide of the nurse that gave said information to the impostor?

It kinda does sound like she was murdered for what she did...but why?

I know its a crazy theory, but still something to consider...but we can't jump to conclusions here.

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