ExpandMyMind Posted July 27, 2012 #1 Share Posted July 27, 2012 German intelligence estimates that "around 90" terror attacks that "can be attributed to organizations that are close to al-Qaeda or jihadist groups" were carried out in Syria between the end of December and the beginning of July, as reported by the German daily Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ). This was revealed by the German government in a response to a parliamentary question.In response to the same question, the German government admitted that it had received several reports from the German foreign intelligence service, the BND, on the May 25 massacre in the Syrian town of Houla. But it noted that the content of these reports was to remain classified "by reason of national interest" http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG24Ak02.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted July 27, 2012 #2 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I think it's impossible to know with any certainty who committed the Houla massacre. Frankly I think either side could have been responsible and it just shows how damned brutal the culture is. I'm glad Oby has had the good sense or at least shown restraint in not getting deeply involved in this conflict. If Assad sees he's going down I expect him to try and use the VX and Sarin. It becomes a much different situation then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codeblind Posted July 27, 2012 #3 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Apparently the CIA is heavily involved in distributing arms coming in from Turkey, but i agree with the comment above any side could be responsible for any massacre in Syria at the moment, thirst for support and of course world wide attention doesn't have any boundaries, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted July 27, 2012 Author #4 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Assad needs to go, but not if it leaves the door open for the terrorists he is fighting against. That would be even worse for the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mule Posted July 27, 2012 #5 Share Posted July 27, 2012 If you remember, when the US invaded Iraq, they funnelled the opposition to the NW border...Sryia. it was my assertion at the time that this was for this very purpose. Unrest in syria and overthrowing the govt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted July 27, 2012 #6 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) If you remember, when the US invaded Iraq, they funnelled the opposition to the NW border...Sryia. it was my assertion at the time that this was for this very purpose. Unrest in syria and overthrowing the govt. There were also convoys of heavy vehicles reportedly moving into Syria from Iraq in the run up to the attack. No way to ever prove it but many think it was Saddam's WMD, at least in part. Edited July 27, 2012 by and then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mule Posted July 27, 2012 #7 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Having a chain from the mediteranean sea through syria and iraq is required before launching an attack on iran...that would be my strategy anyways 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted July 27, 2012 #8 Share Posted July 27, 2012 al quada . maybe have been responsiable for the bombing that " benfits the gov " in case you guys don't know this system have recruited every kinda of scum to stay in power backed up by even more disgusting scums like russia and china covered by the whole west in SC and UN using militians from iran and hezboallah to attack people using russians intellgence and experts and weapons on the people alquada does bombing based on the gov requests so they can justify even more killing under the claim of fighting terrorism and i thought only the usa was disgusting enough to use that excuse but it looks like they got rivals now however even if the whole damn planet sides with those alwities murderers or coverup for them we will fight them and fight the whole world if we have to get our freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Prime Posted July 27, 2012 #9 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Unrest in syria and overthrowing the govt. That's what Hillary has in mind. When she sends in Al Qaeda, a dictator swap is in the cards. These recent groups are not nearly as nasty as the "terrorists" they ran in Central America in the 80's. Bleych. Those were extremely ugly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBronfman Posted July 28, 2012 #10 Share Posted July 28, 2012 The Syrian regime is a Shi'ite one (if you believe Alawite's are really Shi'ites, rather than a secretive proto-Christian group holding John the Baptist as the Messiah while morphing into superficially following whatever religion has control over the area to survive, as many people suspect) then it's no surprise that the Sunni Al-Queda are attacking them. Right now there is a war between Shi'ites and Sunnis going on across the Muslim world including in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted July 28, 2012 #11 Share Posted July 28, 2012 The Syrian regime is a Shi'ite one (if you believe Alawite's are really Shi'ites, rather than a secretive proto-Christian group holding John the Baptist as the Messiah while morphing into superficially following whatever religion has control over the area to survive, as many people suspect) then it's no surprise that the Sunni Al-Queda are attacking them. Right now there is a war between Shi'ites and Sunnis going on across the Muslim world including in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. again i repeat the Quada attacks benfited the goverment not the sunnis and whenever there's bombing with the alquada prints the local media RUSHES to report and violate evidence ON AIR ! it's no secret al quada is just stupid concept made by the usa al quada is not friend of sunnis they're not friend of anyone they're an american card made to disturb the peace .. it's easy ... it's simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBronfman Posted July 28, 2012 #12 Share Posted July 28, 2012 If anything Al-queda was an American creation designed to attack the Soviets in Afganistan but since there they've gained massive support amongst many Sunnis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBronfman Posted July 28, 2012 #13 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Every North African country is a product of Arab Colonialisation. So is Iraq, Syria, Lebanon etc. in which the native Berbers, Kurds, Assyrians, Armenians etc were displaced by Arab imperialism. I love how Muslims never recognise their own Imperialism. Edited July 28, 2012 by SteveBronfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted July 28, 2012 #14 Share Posted July 28, 2012 If anything Al-queda was an American creation designed to attack the Soviets in Afganistan but since there they've gained massive support amongst many Sunnis. the truth ... at last but like most cases .. half true blended with a lie to make the other half sound true too alas .. doesn't work with me al Quada brought to arab or muslims only bad things no one actually benfited from al quada .. except the usa that .. makes any living being with a brain wonders ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBronfman Posted July 28, 2012 #15 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Assigning guilt based on who benefitted most is not a logical argument. There could be many reasons why America benefitted from Al-queda more than their intended beneficiaries eg luck, good managment, poor planning by Al-queda, who knows. Arabs would be well placed using their huge oil profits to benefit all of their citizens instead of repressing their citizens to such an extent they need to resort to violence, and seek any feeble religious justification to do so, to get freedom. The problen is that in the vacuum left by the recently deposed despots even darker forces have taken control not giving citizins more rights but less; seeking to ban freedom of thought, religion, assembly and womens rights, movies, music etc. The Arab world seems destined for an even worse time before they reject Jihadi Islamism and find secular democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted July 28, 2012 #16 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Assigning guilt based on who benefitted most is not a logical argument. There could be many reasons why America benefitted from Al-queda more than their intended beneficiaries eg luck, good managment, poor planning by Al-queda, who knows. Arabs would be well placed using their huge oil profits to benefit all of their citizens instead of repressing their citizens to such an extent they need to resort to violence, and seek any feeble religious justification to do so, to get freedom. The problen is that in the vacuum left by the recently deposed despots even darker forces have taken control not giving citizins more rights but less; seeking to ban freedom of thought, religion, assembly and womens rights, movies, music etc. The Arab world seems destined for an even worse time before they reject Jihadi Islamism and find secular democracy. now THAT was something new .. luck i never knew such thing existed in politics .. but again guys like you are full of surprises so it was " Luck " that usa benfited from al quada they didn't happen to create it agains soviet ? they just got lucky ? that's halirious it's even better than watching dull tv comedy shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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