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#1    Merc14

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:10 AM

Yeah, Maxine Waters, a leading democrat, told America that 170 million jobs would be lost if Obama's Sequestration took place.  There are 320 million Americans and that number includes children, retired folks and non-working parents.  Approximately 138 million employed Americans/  That is PT and FT and ST. So why did Maxine say 170M would be unemployed?  Did she mean 70M?  70M means more that half of full time employees would be out of work because the government cut $86B from the $2.1T budget which is actually 3T.   She is a leader in the democrat house and she is running things.  She has no idea what she is talking about or what she is doing yet she si a democrat leader.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:17 AM

This woman is a nasty, race baiting piece of work.  She is a thug in a suit as far as I'm concerned and I suspect she will be indicted at some point because that ilk cannot suppress the urge to help themselves to the largess they milk from the taxpayers to buy votes with.  When it happens I hope that as she's being perp walked she hears chants of NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!  She makes me ill.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:43 AM

All of the dems. Have been screaming about how bad it is going be if it happens.  Today, Thursday the president basicly said never mind.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 06:57 AM

View Postdanielost, on 01 March 2013 - 06:43 AM, said:

All of the dems. Have been screaming about how bad it is going be if it happens.  Today, Thursday the president basicly said never mind.
And We The People are just going to "Forget about it"?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 07:02 AM

View PostMerc14, on 01 March 2013 - 04:10 AM, said:

Yeah, Maxine Waters, a leading democrat, told America that 170 million jobs would be lost if Obama's Sequestration took place.  There are 320 million Americans and that number includes children, retired folks and non-working parents.  Approximately 138 million employed Americans/  That is PT and FT and ST. So why did Maxine say 170M would be unemployed?  Did she mean 70M?  70M means more that half of full time employees would be out of work because the government cut $86B from the $2.1T budget which is actually 3T.   She is a leader in the democrat house and she is running things.  She has no idea what she is talking about or what she is doing yet she si a democrat leader.
Just to be fair, she could have meant 170,000 jobs??  But wasn't the original estimate like 800,000?  These people really think we are all stupid morons.  When in fact Obama retained the office by only a relatively narrow margin of low information voters.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:31 AM

View PostRavenHawk, on 01 March 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:


Just to be fair, she could have meant 170,000 jobs??  But wasn't the original estimate like 800,000?  These people really think we are all stupid morons.  When in fact Obama retained the office by only a relatively narrow margin of low information voters.

No, not low information but, give me give voters.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:23 PM

Well... I work for the US Government and it is looking strongly like I will lose a days pay every week for the remainder of the year (at least)...  Some will lose much more than that... The impact of this sequestration looks to be massive, just from the Department of Transportation... Within the FAA (where I work) flight inspections will be impacted (no inspections - no flights!), Reduced staffing among Air Traffic Controllers...  Then you have harbor operations, train operations, over the road trucking operations....
Things are about to get very 'interesting' pretty quickly...


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 12:53 PM

View PostTaun, on 01 March 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Well... I work for the US Government and it is looking strongly like I will lose a days pay every week for the remainder of the year (at least)...  Some will lose much more than that... The impact of this sequestration looks to be massive, just from the Department of Transportation... Within the FAA (where I work) flight inspections will be impacted (no inspections - no flights!), Reduced staffing among Air Traffic Controllers...  Then you have harbor operations, train operations, over the road trucking operations....
Things are about to get very 'interesting' pretty quickly...

Sequestration is Obama's rule. He suggested it and rammed it through. This may be the first time a President has campaigned against his own law.  Obama and the dems will wait to see the fall out from this but as of now they are fine because the economy is going to fail regardless but now they can blame sequestration. Sequestartion is about $80 off of a $3800 bill but that is enough to shift blame for 4 years of failure when you have a compliant media.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

Here is what these cuts realy are.  The government spending will go up 6% instead of 8%.  Not, the real numbbers but you get the point.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

Here is a decent article about the sequester.  it's not a well known source but it has some observations.

http://reason.com/bl...eally-look-like


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:01 PM

View PostTaun, on 01 March 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Well... I work for the US Government and it is looking strongly like I will lose a days pay every week for the remainder of the year (at least)...  Some will lose much more than that... The impact of this sequestration looks to be massive, just from the Department of Transportation... Within the FAA (where I work) flight inspections will be impacted (no inspections - no flights!), Reduced staffing among Air Traffic Controllers...  Then you have harbor operations, train operations, over the road trucking operations....
Things are about to get very 'interesting' pretty quickly...

For those of us not smart enough for a Government job, can you explain why such cuts are necessary given that, even with Sequester, the Federal budget is still larger than it was last year.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 01 March 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

Just to be fair, she could have meant 170,000 jobs??  

Apparently, that's what she meant to say.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:18 PM

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Well... I work for the US Government and it is looking strongly like I will lose a days pay every week for the remainder of the year (at least)...  Some will lose much more than that... The impact of this sequestration looks to be massive, just from the Department of Transportation... Within the FAA (where I work) flight inspections will be impacted (no inspections - no flights!), Reduced staffing among Air Traffic Controllers...  Then you have harbor operations, train operations, over the road trucking operations....
Things are about to get very 'interesting' pretty quickly...

Not to pick on you but picture how the great portion of Americans have been getting by since 2008 and let us extend a hand of welcome. No worries Unemployment will cover your loss of wages itleast for the rest of the year and there are other social programs in place to ease any sacrifice endured by our Govmnt employees. Alas we will also survive as we have been living the dream since 2008. BTW there never was any recovery despite what MSM has told us. Its been a long enduring recession. These are necessary cuts and while were here lets get our deficit payed down and all suffer for the short term for the long term good.

There is plenty of good work that needs to be done on this nation but noone in the Govmnt is wise enough to use it as a jobs booster....

And dont forget to pay your Obamacare premiums on your reduced wages. You will be fined if you dont...You will find out what we have been living and hopefully its not so short lived that you wont walk away without a changed perspective on how we all get along.(not a personal attack)

The sequester is a Fear tactic and the only cuts they are enforcing are ones that punish the average citizen for bad politics. Washington needs to grow up or move out of the way. Its not really that complicated. But it is so so very unhealthy for Americans the longer they **** on the Constitutional and refuse to be fiscally responsible.

We took our tax hikes in stride and the debt ceiling got raised without much fervor. Now its time for the Govmnt part of the deal and there playing stupid with us. And you.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:23 PM

View PostRafterman, on 01 March 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

For those of us not smart enough for a Government job, can you explain why such cuts are necessary given that, even with Sequester, the Federal budget is still larger than it was last year.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

View PostRafterman, on 01 March 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

For those of us not smart enough for a Government job, can you explain why such cuts are necessary given that, even with Sequester, the Federal budget is still larger than it was last year.

Broadly speaking - each department requires more money each year to deal with an increase in demand for their services as the US population continues to exponentially increase, as well as meeting any increases in their underlying costs due to inflation.

In addition, more money is required within the budget to repay the interest on the Government's debt, each year, as deficits continue.





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