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Has anyone read Ketchums DNA Paper?


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#16    TheSearcher

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

View PostEverdred, on 22 February 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

It's fair in so far as most journals charge similar fees for articles.  Of course it's hard to call this DeNovo thing a journal.  At least she seems to be giving it out free to journalists and the like.

Which is what I meant actually, but it didn't come out to well. But still creating this  DeNovo thing just for that, is shady at best. I'm sure if she had searched a little more, someone would have published it.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

I think I read somewhere that she was shopping the article around for over a year, so it's understandable that she got frustrated.  But yeah, the DeNovo move was a bit shady, though if she actually develops it into a real journal it might turn out a worthwhile move.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:46 AM

View PostEverdred, on 22 February 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

I think I read somewhere that she was shopping the article around for over a year, so it's understandable that she got frustrated.  But yeah, the DeNovo move was a bit shady, though if she actually develops it into a real journal it might turn out a worthwhile move.

She stated  her new journal's purpose is to be fair and not biased and to be an option for those who have had their papers shunned by the larger journals

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:26 AM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 21 February 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Well, she claimed in her latest interview that some well-known mainstream scientists are now interested in her findings and they are examining them now.
So, we shall see...

That's like saying Shaq read an article on pro basketball and found it interesting. Sounds like there might be something to it until you take it apart then you realize they really said nothing.


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:31 AM

View Postkeninsc, on 23 February 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

That's like saying Shaq read an article on pro basketball and found it interesting. Sounds like there might be something to it until you take it apart then you realize they really said nothing.

Oh, I have no doubt nothing (confirming her DNA theory) will happen.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

View PostTheSearcher, on 22 February 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

So she charges 30$ for a copy of her report? Seems a tad fishy to me. OK, when I say tad, I mean :  I don't believe a word of what she is saying and see this as only another way of haggling money.

are you kidding?  This is a brilliant business opportunity for her.  Read forums like this one and obviously there is a demand for it.  Our entire economy is based on businesses tricking people into buying this thing or that based on whatever attributes it may or may not have.  Ketchum is just living out her part of the american dream - taking money from rubes.  Caveat emptor!

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 04:14 AM

Why pay $30 when in a couple weeks or months at best this will be reveiled one way or the other. I really just don't care enough to basically throw money away.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:43 PM

Its already available for free. A blogger posted it by accident.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:48 PM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 23 February 2013 - 12:46 AM, said:



She stated  her new journal's purpose is to be fair and not biased and to be an option for those who have had their papers shunned by the larger journals

Hers being the sole paper submitted. Shes covering herself as this statement is in regards to her paper only.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:49 AM

View Postdanbell06, on 24 February 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Hers being the sole paper submitted. Shes covering herself as this statement is in regards to her paper only.

I'm shocked you'd make such an assertion of Ms. Ketchum's motives! ...NOT :tu:

But not so fast, who knows what kind of submissions :wacko: her sci-fi journal might receive :w00t:

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:02 AM

I wonder if she's related to the protagonist from Pokémon :D


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:37 AM

View Postdanbell06, on 21 February 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Don't bother, I have read it and I don't believe for one second anything other than financial gain was on the agenda here,

I am not sure I understand why you think you can make this kind of decision for us. I will read it.

View Postealdwita, on 21 February 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

Thanks for that, dan. I won't bother then.

Oh people who do not want to think for themselve. How boring life must be for those people.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:39 AM

View Postealdwita, on 21 February 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

Sorry Raven, I perhaps didn't make my flippancy clear enough! I Googled it to find out what it was about and almost immediately dozed off.

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that says more about you than it does the paper. Some people just don't like science. Or cannot read it.

View PostQuiteContrary, on 21 February 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Well, she claimed in her latest interview that some well-known mainstream scientists are now interested in her findings and they are examining them now.
So, we shall see...

Great stance. I sit on the fence too.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:42 AM

Do you have any idea what fame is really like? It is horrible!
I have had my fifteen minutes of fame. It was an ugly experience and not something the thinking person would volunteer for by a long shot. We all know how thoughtless mainstream media is. No one wants to get involved with that horror.
I don't think she is motivated by fame, while I do think some big foot researchers are.


View Postdanbell06, on 21 February 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

I should have actually waited before posting this thread as ive only read the first half.
Oh well.
The fact she has made it available for purchase and not freely available raises a lot of questions.
Yes, she may have spent her own money, (which I doubt she did, as Wally Hersom was involved) but she could have been responsible for the greatest discovery in science recent history if not ever, so the money and fame would have definately arrived.


Edited by regeneratia, 20 March 2013 - 01:44 AM.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:49 AM

View Postregeneratia, on 20 March 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

that says more about you than it does the paper. Some people just don't like science. Or cannot read it.

I believe there is some debate as to if there is any science in her paper.





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