Incident in the Northwest Territories

[D1CKY D1AMOND]

Before I post my personal account I fully understand any skepticism I will receive because this will be a somewhat controversial post.

Let's start with how I became involved first of all. I started out in the military straight out of high school at 18, 2 years later after I completed my basic training etc. I was approached to join intelligence due to my high grades and ability to speak other languages among other factors. It wouldn't be to long after this I would be sent overseas to Afghanistan to conduct intelligence work for a couple of years and then to various other parts of the world to work covertly. 5 years passed and I came back home did some domestic intelligence gathering and analyzing etc. Then something spectacular happened...

I had received a call at around 2:30am and was told to fly out to North Bay to meet and discuss a possible threat to our national security. The whole flight I had wondered what the threat was, I thought it must have been pretty serious to warrant a call in the early hours of the morning. Then I arrived at the airport where I was whisked away to NORAD in North Bay. In the car was a guy in a suit who called himself 'T', the General in the car introduced me as 'N' and I was told under no circumstance must I give my name or any other personal information to anyone or else. T was a CIA man and when I found this out I knew whatever we were to discuss was huge. Just before we arrived at the base I asked what it was that cut into my leave and I was told not to ask and that information would be provided once we were all assembled.

Fast forward...

So here we were all together now all assigned letters of the alphabet both Canadians and Americans about 10 of us. We were also accompanied by special forces units whom were assigned numbers as opposed to letters. Nobody seemed to know what was going on or knew each other for that matter. An hour passed and some pretty high ranking officials from both Canadian and US military forces arrived and the room became silent. Then they began to talk about how they picked up an unidentified craft in the NWT which descended on a steep angle before disappearing into the heart of the north. They never told us what to expect however at the time I began to think they weren't telling us the whole story and what they had believed. The meeting lasted for an hour and upon finishing everyone signed a waver that essentially stated that if we broke silence the punishment would be execution and that if we were to be killed on our mission up north our families would say we went MIA overseas.

We were all escorted to a transport plane which we would parachute out of once we reached our target area.... Upon finding wreckage of any sort we were told to contact home and they would then send out a recovery team. On the plane we had wondered if it was Russian or Chinese etc. and number 4 had suggested maybe it was alien like the supposed Roswell crash. Most of us said no way although in the back of my head the whole time I wondered what if?

Jump time...

Here we were all piling out of the back of our transport parachuting into the night sky and we spotted a light on the ground. We landed slightly scattered but grouped up about 200 meters from the crash site. From the ground we could see this reddish orange glow which I assumed was fire of some kind. As we approached the site we all began to feel funny some of the guys light headed others nauseated and me as well as a few other tingly all over. At this point we decided to gear up and wear gas masks etc just in case some kind of gas or chemical was near by.

We reached the site and we were all blown away by what we found. It was a small crater and inside it was a glowing metallic almond shaped object about 20 feet in length and about 6 feet in height. There were no visible openings, sounds just the glow. We pulled out a Geiger counter and the object was clean for radiation. 7 and K decided to approach the object and touch it despite the fact we all said it was a bad idea, about 6 feet from the object they started glowing and then were reduced to a fine ash. We began to open fire but with each round fired all we saw was our bullets burn up at about the same distance. We then stopped siring and T radioed base and told them we could even get close to it. We were told to sit tight and wait for evacuation.

After a couple of hours we felt the ground move and we peered over and the object was hovering about 5 feet up and it's glow instantaneously changed to a bluish purple. At this point I said I'm out of here and ran back and ducked behind a large rock with 5 other guys. The ten other guys including the only female present remained. We were yelling at then to get out but it was like they were in a trance like state, we sat an watched for a little while and then all of a sudden all ten people at the same time were reduced to a fine ash like the other 2. It was at this point I became concerned for my personal well being and decided to observe it from a distance. They rest of us watched in both horror and amazement and then the object simply blinked out.

At this point I decided to fire off a few from my pistol into the direction of where the object was to see if it was hiding but it was gone. We then walked back to the small crater and found nothing. It was as if it was never there in the first place.

The people who died that day as a result of not being fully informed were officially reported MIA on a mission in the Middle East. I feel that their story deserves to be told. Someone needs to know what happened that night.

After this incident I searched through endless classified materials and found nothing. I highly suspect this is not the only incident like this to occur and that only a few privileged eyes have access to such information.

In my opinion what we had seen that night was not of this world but rather from elsewhere. My dreams still haunt me and I lose endless hours of sleep. I have since left the intelligence community as a result of the cover up.

Naturally I do not expect everyone to bite... Skepticism is human nature, but for those who do believe thanks for the support and hopefully in the future can we end the debates over other such encounters.

[Moonchild*]

Nobody has any opinion over this 'incident'? I would say, thank for the story. Good read though.

Edited December 11, 2008 by Moonchild*

[Star Man]

If I were you I would not have fired on that kind of object. some time it will put you in a dangerous situation.

reference to:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=112135

[Alienated Being]

Exactly, it was not wise to open fire an on unidentified object, especially since the beings inside may have viewed you as hostiles.

[TSS]

Just a few questions (leaving the "reduced to fine ash" comment aside for the mo, since it makes no sense).

What date was this?

Where was the impact site?

What happened upon your return?

What follow up was conducted by your employers?

What was you expected to do upon finding this object? What was you told to do? I assume firing at the object wasn't the main part of your briefing?

How come you only started to fear for your safety after the second group where reduced to fine ash?

When you say "blinked out" do you mean it just disappeared instantly?

Why do you think you were called for this operation?

Edit - deleted two questions since they were answered in the OP

Edited December 11, 2008 by Sky Scanner

[Evangium]

The meeting lasted for an hour and upon finishing everyone signed a waver that essentially stated that if we broke silence the punishment would be execution and that if we were to be killed on our mission up north our families would say we went MIA overseas.

Ok, I have a personal problem with that part. Why would anyone sign such a waiver? Surely the usual punishment, incarceration in a federal penitentiary (possibly solitary confinement) would have been sufficient, for breaching national security? And what happened to those who didn't sign the waiver? Surely the waiver would have come out before the briefing commenced? Why would your superiors expect the possibility of anyone involved in the mission being killed if they thought it was some kind of craft that had crashed?

Why are you telling us this, since you signed the waiver, surely this puts your life in more jeapordy?

Next thing, why the parachute drop? That makes no sense at all. How were you expected to recover the object? Why were the only other elements involved in the task SF 'bodyguards/handlers'? Why was there no Hazmat or EOD support at the minimum? Surely if you were dropping in to an insecure area, the SF would have gone first and established a cordon before your lot went in?

A few things about yourself would also help. What did you do prior to being approached by 'Intelligence'? What branch of the Services (Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines) were you in?

[Moonie2012]

My problem with it is - why blab like this under punishment of death?

[Hierognosis]

As with most cases that seem to have SOME validity, I am not quite sure what to say. I do have all of the questions that that above have posted, so it would be great if you could answer those, and then we go on from there.

I guess I am just wondering why you are not afraid to share your story now?

And, well... why did you leave your previous post? If what you say is true, then you had an amazing opportunity to verify something which millions of people have "experienced"/believe in. Yes, the ones who died deserve to have their story told, but when you sign up for the military you sign up for silence. I suppose I am still surprised that people are shocked that the government might be lying/keeping secrets from the general public. =P Of course they are. Could you imagine what would happen if the public knew every single secret and every single plan? That would be terrible.

Either way, great read. I would love to hear more. I am particularly interested in the object which you saw, so if you have any artistic skills, please feel free to draw it up and post it, if it's not too much to ask.

[IamsSon]

This is quite an account, and you're right to expect skepticism. Can you answer a few questions for me to begin with?

What was your rank and MOS?

Where did you go for Basic?

Where did you do AT?

How long was AT?

Did you go to Airborne school before or after AT?

What was your class designation at Airborne school?

What kind of aircraft did you jump from on this mission?

What communication equipment were you using?

What weapon were you carrying? You mention you fired at the location where the object had been, what weapon did you fire? What marksmanship level did you hold with the weapon and when was the last time you had qualified?

[Sweetpumper]

I think he's been executed.

[louis_last]

I'm interested by this story deceptikon but answer the questions that there already is before i post any more.

[Sweetpumper]

He can't.

[Resonance]

My problem with it is - why blab like this under punishment of death?

That is the same question i was asking.

And also, you want the victim's families to know...... but why post it on this forum then?

An amazingly insteresting story though.

[GrayTone]

I think he's been executed.

That made me laugh!

But really, I doubt he's going to reply to any of these questions.

[louis_last]

LOL. that was good.

seriously though he has more than a hundred posts, that seems like a lot of time invested in what would ultimately become a post and run, if indeed thats what this turns out to be. time will tell.

To be honest I'm so tired of 'insiders' that if for once the government had actually ****ed this one the **** up for not keeping his trap shut i think i'm cool with that, I can just see Cheney now on the phone to his superiors 'jobs a good un'.

[SoulFire]

He can't.

[Corvis]

I also have a few questions, as this is fairly close to the work I do.

I'm making the logical assumption that you were debriefed that this mission was classified as TS. If you were in Intel of any kind then you would know you'd not find the information on this because it's all compartmentalized.

Second, what's the declass date? Usually the time they set is 80 years. You're making a serious/grave breach posting anything that hasn't been properly declassed.

Third, your military references are vague and evasive. Were you an attache? What branch? I don't want to know your unit or anything, but.. How long did your adjudication take? Are they aware that you have an account here? And are leaking potentially classified information? That if believed, could potentially instill a panic? Things are classified for a reason and anyone claiming to be in the Intel field knows that. And respects the fact that some things shouldn't be revealed.

Now for my own personal comment, officialness aside.

PFFFT.

[Lilly]

My personal opinion on this: Budding science fiction writer.

[IamsSon]

My personal opinion on this: Budding science fiction writer.

*Shudders at the thought of the sad future of science fiction*

[D1CKY D1AMOND]

I will do my best to answer peoples questions.... Keep in mind I don't have all the answers.

What date was this?

September 20th 2005

Where was the impact site?

Sorry that's classified.... I can only confirm that it was somewhere deep in the NWT.

What happened upon your return?

I was told to not say anything and then reassigned elsewhere. After I completed one more job I quit.

What follow up was conducted by your employers?

I have no idea what the military did. They probably filed a final report labeled it classified and stuck it in an archive somewhere.

What was you expected to do upon finding this object? What was you told to do? I assume firing at the object wasn't the main part of your briefing

We were expected to find out what it was or so we were told.

We were fully authorized to open fire on any hostiles. The object vaporized 2 of my coworkers before we had fired.

How come you only started to fear for your safety after the second group where reduced to fine ash?

The first 2 men attempted to approach the object. At this time I had figured it was essentially harmless as we were a half decent distance back. When it changed color and became mobile I didn't know what was going to happen and once I had seen 10 others essentially vaporized I knew that it was more then capable of finishing the rest of us off.

I had often wondered if the deaths weren't some kind of message to stay clear or else.

When you say "blinked out" do you mean it just disappeared instantly?

Yes.

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Ok, I have a personal problem with that part. Why would anyone sign such a waiver?

Waivers like these are common.... They say treason but people sent on intelligence missions or black ops almost always receive maximum penalties. This waiver said that I would receive the maximum punishment.

Surely the usual punishment, incarceration in a federal penitentiary (possibly solitary confinement) would have been sufficient, for breaching national security?

Even in solitary you still do have some contact with people and can get info out. I can tell you that what happens 'officially' isn't what always happens to rogue agents.

On this note I don't think it's treasonous to tell this story which is why I did.

And what happened to those who didn't sign the waiver?

They were sent back home.

Surely the waiver would have come out before the briefing commenced?

It did.

Why would your superiors expect the possibility of anyone involved in the mission being killed if they thought it was some kind of craft that had crashed?

Radiation, Air born toxins, biological agents... Nobody really knew what to expect.

Why are you telling us this, since you signed the waiver, surely this puts your life in more jeapordy?

I never said it did, Since I now live a somewhat public where I am involved with my community they simply couldn't make me disappear without people noticing. I have also changed certain aspects of this experience like not revealing names of superiors etc to avoid charges or execution.

Next thing, why the parachute drop? That makes no sense at all. How were you expected to recover the object?

The area was remote it would have been impossible to reach by land vehicle due to heavy brush. We were simply dropped to assess the situation and threat level as well as secure the object. After this is accomplished they would have brought in helicopters and set up a base camp in a near by clearing.

Why were the only other elements involved in the task SF 'bodyguards/handlers'?

Security clearance.

Why was there no Hazmat or EOD support at the minimum?

Again security clearance but also other possible threats like enemy combatants. It is important to note that many Intelligence agents do have some scientific backgrounds as well as it allows them to better spot threats.

We were fully equipped to deal with biological and chemical threats.

Surely if you were dropping in to an insecure area, the SF would have gone first and established a cordon before your lot went in?

We are all trained to deal with combat situations of all kinds.

A few things about yourself would also help. What did you do prior to being approached by 'Intelligence'? What branch of the Services (Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines) were you in?

Infantry... Canadian Forces

[louis_last]

Nah.... I'm not buying it. Somebody give this guy a grilling, i don't know enough about the American military.

Edited December 11, 2008 by louis_last

[Moonie2012]

Where was the impact site?

Sorry that's classified.... I can only confirm that it was somewhere deep in the NWT.

You spill classified info everywhere, but won't give the exact location because it's classified?

I was playing along until I saw that. This story is utter BS.

Edited December 11, 2008 by Moonie2012

[Sweetpumper]

I had often wondered if the deaths weren't some kind of message to stay clear or else.

LMAO! I'd say that's a pretty good guess.

[Moonie2012]

I want to see THESE questions answered - questions that involve some actual military knowledge. So far, the info put forth could have been made up by anybody.

What was your rank and MOS?

Where did you go for Basic?

Where did you do AT?

How long was AT?

Did you go to Airborne school before or after AT?

What was your class designation at Airborne school?

What kind of aircraft did you jump from on this mission?

What communication equipment were you using?

What weapon were you carrying? You mention you fired at the location where the object had been, what weapon did you fire? What marksmanship level did you hold with the weapon and when was the last time you had qualified?

[D1CKY D1AMOND]

What was your rank and MOS? Col. Intelligence

Where did you go for Basic? Sorry can't tell you that... It would bring people closer to my identity.

Where did you do AT? Classified

How long was AT? Classified

Did you go to Airborne school before or after AT? No

What was your class designation at Airborne school?

What kind of aircraft did you jump from on this mission? C-130 Hercules

What communication equipment were you using? Classified

What weapon were you carrying? C7A1 assault rifle and the Browning 9-mm pistol

what weapon did you fire? What marksmanship level did you hold with the weapon and when was the last time you had qualified?

I fired both weapons... Since I was in the intelligence community I almost never had to use my weapons, admittedly I'm not quite as accurate as I used to be.

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And also, you want the victim's families to know...... but why post it on this forum then?

I do not know the victims let alone their families, as for why this forum and why the internet? I ask why not? Sure I could write a book or go on TV but I don't want the money. This forum has a lot of readers and my story will pass from one person to another all over the world.

The internet is a great way to spread information.

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I'm making the logical assumption that you were debriefed that this mission was classified as TS. If you were in Intel of any kind then you would know you'd not find the information on this because it's all compartmentalized.

True.... I looked in as many archives as I could for not only what we had experienced but for other as well. I found nothing and I firmly believe that UFO documents are classified above my level 5 clearance which is officially as high as you can get.

Second, what's the declass date? Usually the time they set is 80 years. You're making a serious/grave breach posting anything that hasn't been properly declassed.

The declassification date is unknown but I assume indefinitely. Since the reports from that incident do not officially do not exist I never made a breach.

Third, your military references are vague and evasive. Were you an attache? What branch? I don't want to know your unit or anything, but.. How long did your adjudication take? Are they aware that you have an account here? And are leaking potentially classified information? That if believed, could potentially instill a panic? Things are classified for a reason and anyone claiming to be in the Intel field knows that. And respects the fact that some things shouldn't be revealed.

I made my references vague for a reason. I went straight from the military into a branch of CSIS that specialized in both foreign and domestic military intelligence.

I am sure they are more then aware of my activity. Again though since the reports do not exist in any Canadian archive and no specific details were given I am pretty safe.