Josef Mengele

[Mad Manfred]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

He was definitely worse than Hitler I'd say...this psycho only died as recently as 1985.

[Glacies]

that is crazy, some of those experiments served no other purpose but to tickle his sadistic psychosis. crazy sonuvagun.

[Yelekiah]

Oh yes he was very sadistic. I like how some idiot edited wikipedia to the title, "his fn life".

[Bella-Angelique]

Using humans is the worst, but what is still happening to animals in labs is pretty horrific. They open them up under anesthisia and when they are done sometimes just walk off and leave them to awaken like that to die a hiddeous death. There still is no oversight that I know of.

[Lyrebird]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

He was definitely worse than Hitler I'd say...this psycho only died as recently as 1985.

My daughter had to do an assignment on Mengele for school recently. He actually died in 1979 from a stroke or drowning; they're not exactly sure which one. His body was discovered in a shallow grave in 1985.

For those of you who have seen the sci-fi movie with Mengele as the lead character played by Gregory Peck, "The Boys From Brazil". You might be interested they're filming an updated version of this 1978 movie, late this year or early 2008. The director will be Brett Ratner who directed "Red Dragon" and "X Men".

Did you know mengele has a son living in Germany under a false name and an illigitimate daughter living in Sydney Australia. Her birthdate/place was given as March 10 1961 in Melbourne Australia. References: Letters seized in Brazil in 1985 and re discovered in 2004. The woman is aware of her heritage and contacted the family.

I wonder if the evilness in him is passed on to his children and granchildren etc??? Fascinating. Scary!

[SunnyOutlook]

I wonder if the evilness in him is passed on to his children and granchildren etc??? Fascinating. Scary!

I don't think evil can be passed on unless it's learned or discovered on one's own. Mental illness can in some cases.

[~Cheese~]

Crazy!!

[goalienan]

I don't think evil can be passed on unless it's learned or discovered on one's own. Mental illness can in some cases.

I agree with the mental illness, but in this case it does sound as if he had some kind of a sickness that led to what he did...Either way he was sadistic and sick......

[el midgetron]

For those of you who have seen the sci-fi movie with Mengele as the lead character played by Gregory Peck, "The Boys From Brazil". You might be interested they're filming an updated version of this 1978 movie, late this year or early 2008. The director will be Brett Ratner who directed "Red Dragon" and "X Men".

Its one of my favorite movies.

I don't know how I feel about a re-make coming out.......

[MissMelsWell]

The Boys From Brazil by Ira Levin is a fantastic book, the book is better than the original movie with Gregory Peck, but the movie was still great. I did hear they were remaking the movie, I might see it if it sticks to the story in the book. Since the book wasn't terribly long, I'm really hoping they don't over embellish the original story.

Historically speaking, Mengele was one of the most twisted people in history. It's almost unfathomable that someone could become so ... so ... evil.

[rideron]

There are grandchildren of a Nephew of Hitler living in Minnesota today. 3 brothers, their story was the subject of a History Channel program on the decendants of Hitler. His full sister lived on in Germany until her death in 1960.

[Travelling Man]

One of the biggest "problems" with Josef Mengele is that the research he conducted in the 30's and 40's was the basis of many medical theories and findings today, and without his research we would be 30+ years behind where we are today in the fields of medicine and psychology, as well as sociology and psychiatry.

The reason he did so much was that he wasn't hindered by "ethics". Without ethics, a whole lots of things are possible that aren't when you consider silly things like patients' right to consent and euthanasia and the likes.

He was a very unethical man - widely hated today - and quietly saluted every time a doctor treats someone for the bends, a genetic problem, dermatological problem, high and low blood pressure, and even erectile dysfunction.

[Gatofeo]

Yes, it's true.

Some of what we know about the human body was learned by unethical doctors in death camps in World War II.

Look in any survival manual and you'll probably find a description of Hypothermia (reduced body core temperature).

With it, you may find a description of the symptoms exhibited by someone who is hypothermic at various core body temperatures.

How was this information obtained?

The Germans wanted to determine how long a downed flier or overboard sailor could last in the North Sea. So, they created water tanks in the death camps in which some unfortunate prisoner was placed and his temperature was monitored as the water temperature was lowered.

His reactions were observed and the temperature was lowered until he died.

It was a horrific experiment that no conscientious physician would have allowed --- but physicians of the Third Reich were not bound by the Hippocratic Oath.

For what it's worth, if anything, discoveries like these are the only good to ever come out of the death camps. I'm not excusing the Germans or the death camps but --- very begrudingly --- it has to be recognized that some experiments netted good data. Other experiments were pure hogwash, such as attempts to change eye color to blue.

If I had my way, every guard, physician, nurse, administrator and commandant of a death camp would have been put against the wall and shot.

Yes, some medical knowledge was advanced but at what cost? .. what cost?

[agskdgalgl]

What's The Boys From Brazil about?

[Gatofeo]

"The Boys from Brazil" is about the cloning of Hitler a few years after the end of World War II. He was dead but enough of his DNA survived to make cloning possible.

To ensure the new "master" would be like the old, the boys were placed in houses that had strong mothers, weak or no fathers, and were encouraged to believe they were superior to others.

It's pure fiction, of course, but a good plot.

I saw the movie years ago. It's okay. I'm told the book is much better but have never read it.

[MissMelsWell]

I'd definitely recommend getting a copy of the book, it's not even very long (for those who don't like to read) it's a thriller, espinoge, intrigue book. The author was Ira Levan, who also wrote Sliver (Sharon Stone starred in the movie, not that great a movie or book) ... Boys From Brazil will probably go down in history as being a 20th Century masterpiece though.

Highly recommended.

[tralalala]

If Brett Ratner is really directing a remake, I suggest that everyone who liked the original avoid it at all cost. Someone needs to stop that guy from making movies. Unless you're really into sh**ty dialogue an unnecessary explosions, the remake will probably suck.