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#46    keninsc

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:04 AM

View Postevancj, on 24 December 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

Holy cow Stardrive!

You've been busy, good job. Thanks for the effort you put into this.

Some very interesting stories that you have collected. I especially enjoyed the one about the farmer bear, a true tall tale that one. :lol:

The majority of them seem to be reports of what our friend psych101 would call "hobo sapiens" you know homeless mentally ill people. There was one in there that seemed to fit the bigfoot descriptions we hear today.

Thanks again I appreciate the time and effort you put into this. :tu:

Stardrive is good about it, me I don't have the time, patience or inclination. I used to, you understand, but them that need education the most are themselves largely the problem.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:06 AM

View PostJeff Albertson, on 24 December 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:

Where you talking about Kathy strain pictrograph resarch or John Greens pictrographs, ect?

Bless your heart Jeff, went right over your head again. Hang in there Buddy, one day maybe it'll make sense.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:54 AM

Hmm, interesting articles, but there are some things that should be noted. Firstly, many of these are not local reports, especially the first few and some are about events on the other side of the country, which is suspect at best. The late 19th century was the heyday of yellow journalism, when in order to make money, journalists made up whatever stories they wanted, including petrified babies, mammoths roaming the countryside and of wild men. This doesn't invalidate the articles, but they should be treated with caution.

So, let's see them...

1: An article from Pennsylvania that quotes a one month old piece from California, that conveniently doesn't include any names. The old hunter is also suspiciously compassionate for the 1870s, and doesn't shoot the "gorilla".
2:Same papers, but the story is from Nevada. Still no names. "Undoubtedly a white man".
3: Louisiana paper, about events in Georgia concerning bears practicing animal husbandry. I think this sounds very much like a hoax and not at all like bigfoot.
4: Ohio-Ontario, not that far. But there is one strange thing: Pretties Island, Ontario is not a hundred miles north of Ottawa, but about thirty miles to the Southwest from there. Interesting Once more, no-one can be clearly identified. The creature is armed with a tomahawk and a "bludgeon"
5: A third-hand report, ("reliable gentleman" - Walker County Messenger - Atlanta Constitution), The wild man makes rude gestures with its hands, its facial features are clearly visible from 100 yards (though they are never described), wields a long pole and throws 100 pound rocks at the same time.
6: The first completely local report. It describes a half-naked man with long hair and a long beard, bare feet and a bare head. This doesn't sound like bigfoot at all.
7: Another third-hand account from the state of New York. Somewhere, Peter Thomas's carriage is attacked by something hairy in the middle of the night and he loses one of the horses. Later, berry pickers find a campsite with smoldering fire. They somehow identify the remains of Thomas's horse (how?) and find the bones of other animals. "It is thought by some" (at wikipedia, this would be followed by [who?] at least) that it's a chimpanzee or a feral human.
8: A wild man who wears sheepskin clothes and has a "flowing mane", but isn't said to be covered in fur. Doesn't sound like bigfoot.
9: A Nevada paper reporting from Missouri, about a naked black woman doing crazy stuff near a road. Doesn't sound like bigfoot.
10: A small town newspaper from New York references a small town newspaper from Pennsylvania about some people who found some footprints somewhere.
11: Now this is interesting. The Manitoba Free Press publishes a letter to the New York Sun about Vermont hunters in Massachusetts. They say that the creature had long, hairy arms, a beard and looked like a man. Or a gorilla, it's not completely clear. (I have to add here, I doubt that hunters from 1879 era Vermont had any idea what a gorilla looked like)


While these stories are fascinating, I don't see clear indications of bigfoot in most of them, and their veracity is doubtful as practically all are small town newspapers reporting about faraway events with as little traceable facts as possible.

What it proves is that I was wrong and the media-fuelled bigfoot craze has its origins in late 19th century "wild man" articles that were probably inspired by tales of Native American religion.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:13 PM

And that's the other reason I don't try to educate people any more.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:01 PM

In response to the question posed by the OP - I think people still believe in Bigfoot for several reasons:

a)  they want to.  Volition drives belief in cryptids - it has to, as there is no evidence or logic that actually supports their existence.

B) personal experiences/anecdotal evidence.  My thoughts on personal experiences and anecdotal evidence are that they are almost all either sightings of misidentified already existing animals, hoaxes, or hand-me-down versions of the former.

c) problem solving skills and critical thinking are in decline in the adult population. Instead of going out to find information on which to base beliefs, many people believe first and then find confirmation and validation in stories (eyewitness accounts/anecdotal information mentioned above) that support their belief.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:12 PM

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c) problem solving skills and critical thinking are in decline in the adult population. Instead of going out to find information on which to base beliefs, many people believe first and then find confirmation and validation in stories (eyewitness accounts/anecdotal information mentioned above) that support their belief.

Actually OP79, I think that has more to do with it than anything else. If you're already a "believer" then the internet will provide you with all the fuel you'll ever need to keep that fire burning.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

I had seen old newspaper stories before, so I knew they were around. Just had to dig and find them. That was the problem though, I had to read alot of old newspaper stories. Anyone have any asprin on them, I've got a hellava headache.....   :lol:

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

View Postkeninsc, on 24 December 2012 - 07:06 AM, said:

Bless your heart Jeff, went right over your head again. Hang in there Buddy, one day maybe it'll make sense.
So you are unware of here work you leave a vage desribtion that people are trying to figure out by saying "petroglifies". Do you even know what you are talking about? Are you just saying petroglifies in generall because that would not what bigfooters are talking about there are certain ones with known legends and myths that go with it. I pointed out two of them. I just trying to figure out if you had a meanful something to had to the confesation or you just talk about stuff you don't know about again.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:45 PM

OMG Jeff?!?

I'm actually quite familar with her work or rather her theories.

Unfortunately, I completely know what I'm talking about, but it's gone over your head. No worries and Merry Christmas.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:53 PM

View Postkeninsc, on 24 December 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

OMG Jeff?!?

I'm actually quite familar with her work or rather her theories.

Unfortunately, I completely know what I'm talking about, but it's gone over your head. No worries and Merry Christmas.

*shakes head*

Ok so you are wasting my time and every ones eles time by making vage refences and not willing to descuss what you mean. I not going to answer any more response to you on this thread, other people have at least try to firgure out your comment and showing pictures of what they think you are talking about. Etheir be a man and explain what you meant by a comment or act like a boy and hidde behind vague comments so people can't say you or right or wrong. Other people are here to better understand claims and counter claims, so far you have not had any information to the thread.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:58 PM

View Postscowl, on 23 December 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Gentleman, I believe this is the image you're talking about:

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Supposedly this indisputable drawing of Bigfoot is in a cave in Northern California but I've been unable to verify that.



Have you found any new information out if this is a bigfoot pictrographs? If these does have a  known legend or myth behind it claim a bigfoot it does seem to repersent a bear, from the claws on the hand and feet. It would be intresting to compare this to other pictrographs and legends of bigfoot.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:38 PM

I normally don't back track on myself because someone else can't follow the conversation, but in this case I will......why, I'm not really sure but my original post was about timeline of Bigfoot reports. Now I did comment on other replies and that might have confussed you.

Original post and premise posted:

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CBC? Where have you been? Bigfoots have been depicted on the walls of caves going back 2000 years. If you're going to be a skeptic then please bother to get your facts correct.
....."the 20's"......sheesh.....

......and as I stated in another thread, it isn't my job or desire to educate anyone and yes, that does include you. Others felt the need to take on that job and that's fine if they want to and that includes you again. Personally, I don't like doing all the "leg work" only to have some lazy person simply post that they don't believe it or don't accept it. Like Stardrive, it just gives me a headache.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:50 PM

View Postkeninsc, on 24 December 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

I normally don't back track on myself because someone else can't follow the conversation, but in this case I will......why, I'm not really sure but my original post was about timeline of Bigfoot reports. Now I did comment on other replies and that might have confussed you.

Original post and premise posted:



......and as I stated in another thread, it isn't my job or desire to educate anyone and yes, that does include you. Others felt the need to take on that job and that's fine if they want to and that includes you again. Personally, I don't like doing all the "leg work" only to have some lazy person simply post that they don't believe it or don't accept it. Like Stardrive, it just gives me a headache.

One again which one are you talking about as I orginal stated, Pictrographs in generally, or any certain ones it is a vague answer you gave. Because Pictroghraps with out and know legends is just what people who claim bigfoot are not talking about, or there is certains ons like John greens have documented, Kathy work ect. Because no one can ansewr for you beshids you, so which ones where you refering to in your comment.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:50 PM

Now for further giggles, here's a group of different "Bigfoot" representations from Native Cultures:

http://www.bigfootre...e=print&sid=163

While I can't say for sure what they are intended to represent they do seem rather.....uhm?........."Bigfooty" to me.


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Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:53 PM

See Jeff, there's the problem, you asked me what I was talking about but the truth is all you're interested in is what you're talking about. Makes it a little hard to exchange ideas when the conversation is all about you.





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