Belief is fine, everyone is entitled to their own belief nobody is entitled to their own proof.
What I want is not to be taken as a fool, and that is what people like Bee and Zoser try to do to me. Take me for some fool that will believe something that I know is not true.
I want to share what I know, and I hope to learn from others, andI do, just never from an ETH'er, the only real lessons I have learned here have come from those that are generally deemed to be "skeptics" whom I personally refer to as "critical thinkers".
Yes there is, but I am not really bothered with the comic relief side of the ETH, which be pretty much anything you read on a UFOlogy website.
The stuff I want to learn does not come from some crackpot who claims to have had babies with aliens. Such is indeed, beneath me, take that as arrogant if you will, I have no time for time wasters. It is why you rarely see me in personal experience threads or the reports and sightings section of this very forum. If that is how people want to entertain themselves, so be it, I have other options to explore.
Indeed, but I do not want to be convinced with tales. I think if you cannot prove it, don't make stuff up, just keep your mouth shut. I have always said I feel there are two types of believer, and I am not interested in the hysterical ones. You have the Hawkings, The Sagans, the Fremis, the Dysons, the Drakes, then you have the Friedman's, the Lazars, the Adamskis' the Goodchilds.
From what I can see, one lot has a clue, one lot wishes they had a clue, so they make stuff up to seem important, and to the gullible they do seem important. I am not one of the gullible.
Yes, not conclusion, It seems painfully obvious to me that such a wide ranging phenomena with so many descriptions is more than likely to also have a range of answers. From what I see, ET has not even legally made the table, some credulous zealots shoehorned him into position is all.
Real, but not by any means or lengths alien, and that is not as hard to determine as some make out.
Some are crazy, some want attention some sought it, some just made it up to be cool, and some enjoy taking advantage of others. Some are simple misidentification, some are things I am sure that have not been catalogued yet. But without these things ever actually going into space, and considering that vastenss of space, what we have does not seem to be spaceships at all so then yes, the remaining tiny percentage (0.05%?) that create very wild stories and insist they are true are crazy or lying. Like the woman how has orgasmic experiences and travels the entire solar system in a night with her alien lovers. She is lying. Or crazy. No two ways about it. Why kid ourselves? So we do not hurt someones feelings??
No, that is right, I agree with that, but sometimes it is not crazy, or a simple mistake, sometimes it is a nefarious angle. There are far too many varied reasons to discount man as the common denominator here.
I am not the one who got all up in arms, nor the one to bring Dr Mitchell into the conversation if you go back through the thread for a look. All I am doing is calling out the people who are lying about his actual words and posting his statements. Why do you object to that?
Zoser said "Throw your textbooks away, your intuition is all you need. The Academics have done nothing but lie to you all along."
Bee outright lied when she some of Dr Mitchell's "First Hand Knowledge" all I had to do was quote the man where he himself says "I have no firsthand knowledge"
And you think it is unwarranted still? What would you do if a skeptic gave you advice of that calibre?
Edited by psyche101, 19 June 2013 - 08:03 AM.