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[Still Waters]

Furious fishermen have called for a confused seal to be shot after it strayed from the sea and swam up the river Severn.

Anglers say that the seal, which was nicknamed Keith before being identified as a female, is a 'marine predator' that is eating all their fish stocks and should be shot by a sniper if it does not swim back downstream.

But fans of the adorable-looking seal, which has been swimming around the waterways of Worcestershire for two months, have set up a petition to protect the seal.

http://www.dailymail...ver-Severn.html

[libstaK]

There's probably dozens of Anglers who fish that river all an ave of 5'6 or so and happily taking fish from the river.  Yet they are claiming one lone seal approx four foot long is taking THEIR fish.  FGS this is ridiculous, it's just one seal, surely there are enough fish to share with one lonely little seal?

These guys need to take a good hard look at themselves.  Selfish and narcissistic springs to mind.

[redhen]

libstaK, on 18 January 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

There's probably dozens of Anglers who fish that river all an ave of 5'6 or so and happily taking fish from the river.  Yet they are claiming one lone seal approx four foot long is taking THEIR fish.  

Yup it wasn't overfishing that depleted the cod stocks in the Atlantic, it was seals. Which makes it then necessary to cull the seals.

Convenient no?

[Raven_Tear]

Ah yes, destroy a beautiful seal for eating what its supposed to in order to survive. Morons.

[Hilander]

They are blaming one seal because they can't catch fish, how convenient of an excuse.  Either that or its the biggest seal in history.

[JasonPollock]

Anglers/hunters annoy me so much, in case you forgot guys, the animals were here BEFORE YOU! It is not 'your' fish, you do not own the planet Earth and everything on it, just because you have had the opportunity of being born here does not entitle you to claim everything as yours! ‘I am very worried as it has started taking ducks and waterfowl and soon will start attacking swans and maybe dogs swimming.’ Oh don't be so stupid, start attacking dogs... These people are the most melodramatic, same as the NRA in the USA, causing such a scene when they're precious guns are going to be taken away... Hypocrites and drama queens the lot of them.

[Raven_Tear]

"Anglers/hunters annoy me so much"

Amen to that one.

[Vaise]

Just gone ahead and signed the petition not to destroy this little lady seal. Absolutely stupid to shoot a seal for simply feeding.....

[redhen]

JasonPollock, on 19 January 2013 - 01:59 AM, said:

Anglers/hunters annoy me so much, in case you forgot guys, the animals were here BEFORE YOU! It is not 'your' fish, you do not own the planet Earth and everything on it, just because you have had the opportunity of being born here does not entitle you to claim everything as yours!

Sounds like "Deep ecology is a contemporary ecological philosophy distinguished by its advocacy of the inherent worth of living beings regardless of their instrumental utility to human needs."

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‘I am very worried as it has started taking ducks and waterfowl and soon will start attacking swans and maybe dogs swimming.’ Oh don't be so stupid, start attacking dogs... These people are the most melodramatic, same as the NRA in the USA, causing such a scene when they're precious guns are going to be taken away... Hypocrites and drama queens the lot of them.

Two different topics, NRA stuff is in the Conspiracy forum.

[Sakari]

Raven_Tear, on 19 January 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

"Anglers/hunters annoy me so much"

Amen to that one.

I fish, and I used to hunt. I buy a license, and tags for Salmon. That money goes towards saving Salmon, and the hatcheries that are putting more Salmon in the ocean.

You people obviously have no clue who and what is helping wildlife and fish to get stronger numbers.

I hate ignorant people......

Edited by Sakari, 19 January 2013 - 03:39 AM.

[Raven_Tear]

I just don't like hunting of any kind. Never have never will. If you're saving salmon then good for you. Keep it up.

[Sakari]

Raven_Tear, on 19 January 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

I just don't like hunting of any kind. Never have never will. If you're saving salmon then good for you. Keep it up.

Hunters and Anglers, buy purchasing tags and licenses are saving animals and fish. All of that money goes to the States Fish and Wildlife Management Departments. Without this, there would be no fish or animals left.

If you want to stop the fish ( Salmon, Tuna, Etc. ) populations from going down like they are, stop eating fish. It is the commercial fishing that is killing them off.

On topic, I do know on the Oregon, California, Washington, and Alaskan coasts and rivers, seals and sea lions are a problem. They are over populated. They are also protected. I have witnessed many times anglers fighting a Salmon, and a seal grab the fish ripping out its belly, or head back. They actually wait for anglers to have a fish on, instead of hunting themselves, it is easier for them. Personally, I would never hurt one, but I guarantee if this were in any river system in the places I named, the seal would end up dead. They do eat a lot, not enough to destroy all of the fish, although the populations are getting lower every year do to commercial fishing.

I guarantee, this seal will end up dead. Not saying I agree with this, but it will happen.



And, out of curiousity, do you eat meat?

Edited by Sakari, 19 January 2013 - 04:01 AM.

[Raven_Tear]

No I do not eat meat, used to but then saw just how meat was processed, it saddened me. But if you're doing something positive then I can't argue and I can only hope the seal doesn't end up dead.

[JasonPollock]

Sakari, on 19 January 2013 - 04:00 AM, said:

Hunters and Anglers are saving animals and fish.

Remind me how killing something is saving them? Do they somehow kill them, then eat them/hang their hides and heads on the wall as a sign to everybody who visits to show how much of a manly man they are, and then resurrect them from the dead and put them back where they found them with no harm done?

No Sakari, I think the word you were looking for is 'killing', not 'saving'. 'Hunters and anglers are killing animals and fish' - yep, that sounds about right.

[Sakari]

JasonPollock, on 19 January 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

Remind me how killing something is saving them? Do they somehow kill them, then eat them/hang their hides and heads on the wall as a sign to everybody who visits to show how much of a manly man they are, and then resurrect them from the dead and put them back where they found them with no harm done?

No Sakari, I think the word you were looking for is 'killing', not 'saving'. 'Hunters and anglers are killing animals and fish' - yep, that sounds about right.

You are very ignorant on this topic.

Have you read any of my previous replies?

Here is one State, and this is the same for all.....

The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation is the state agency responsible for managing fish and wildlife. The Wildlife Department receives no general state tax appropriations and is supported by hunting and fishing license fees and special taxes through the Wildlife & Sport Fish Restoration Program on sporting equipment and motorboat fuels paid by anglers, boaters hunters and recreational shooters.

http://www.wildlifedepartment.com/





Southwick Associates’ Rob Southwick notes that states must dedicate 100 percent of license revenues to fish and wildlife management or risk losing their share of federal fish and wildlife restoration excise tax revenues. In 2007, nearly $350 million was allocated for fisheries and $267 million for wildlife and hunter education.

http://www.outdoorli...node/1001308473



There are a couple facts for you, if you can still not figure it out let me know.........