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[Still Waters]

They are the Christmas vegetables that split opinion and now doctors say Brussels sprouts should come with a health warning after a man was admitted to hospital by eating them.

The leafy green vegetables contain vitamin K, a chemical the body uses to promote blood clotting, and it counteracts the effects of anticoagulants (blood thinning medication).

The man, from Ayrshire, was prescribed anticoagulants after suffering heart failure last year and his dose was monitored once or twice a week to prevent blood clotting.

http://www.telegraph...o-hospital.html

[freetoroam]

But would they not help hemophiliacs?

[Hasina]

Everything needs a warning label! Being alive is scary~

[Star of the Sea]

It's true! I'm a 'thrombophiliac' and I have been on anti-coagulants for just over 27 years. I clot very quickly and have had DVTs and pulmonary embolisms so many times I have lost count. Brussel sprouts, some other green veg including salad affect the clotting time. I have my blood monitored every friday and tomorrow I will get the usual lecture at the anticoag clinic on what I can and can't eat over Christmas including alcohol boohoo!! It won't stop me eating my sprouts though I love them... everything in moderation lol!

Edited by Star of the Sea, 20 December 2012 - 11:39 PM.

[Star of the Sea]

freetoroam, on 20 December 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

But would they not help hemophiliacs?

I've often wondered that because I'm the opposite to a hemophiliac and have a condition where my blood clots too fast.

[freetoroam]

Star of the Sea, on 20 December 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

I've often wondered that because I'm the opposite to a hemophiliac and have a condition where my blood clots too fast.

I am no medical person, but it would seem logical, surely there must be some experiments being done on it, unless they already have something sufficient.

[Star of the Sea]

freetoroam, on 20 December 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

I am no medical person, but it would seem logical, surely there must be some experiments being done on it, unless they already have something sufficient.

I do know when my blood has gone too thin on the anti-coags I'm given vitamin K to make it clot quicker. Maybe there is some chemical similar to sprouts in it? Who knows!

[Simbi Laveau]

Star of the Sea, on 20 December 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

It's true! I'm a 'thrombophiliac' and I have been on anti-coagulants for just over 27 years. I clot very quickly and have had DVTs and pulmonary embolisms so many times I have lost count. Brussel sprouts, some other green veg including salad affect the clotting time. I have my blood monitored every friday and tomorrow I will get the usual lecture at the anticoag clinic on what I can and can't eat over Christmas including alcohol boohoo!! It won't stop me eating my sprouts though I love them... everything in moderation lol!

Oh my god ....
You should look into a few supplements that naturally thin the blood .
I will say no more ...

[Simbi Laveau]

Star of the Sea, on 20 December 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

I do know when my blood has gone too thin on the anti-coags I'm given vitamin K to make it clot quicker. Maybe there is some chemical similar to sprouts in it? Who knows!

They say to optimize vitamin K,it should be taken in proper amounts with vitamin D .
You should ask your doctor if either could help you ,if taken regularly .

[Star of the Sea]

Simbi Laveau, on 20 December 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

Oh my god ....
You should look into a few supplements that naturally thin the blood .
I will say no more ...

Hi Simbi!

I wish I knew where to start with natural remedies over here in the UK! I'm on a very high dose of warfarin 40 mgs a day (usually its 3mg a day) so every few months I have to switch to heparin injections as my liver has taken a pounding as I also have haematomachrosis which is another blood complication (too much iron in blood) so I have to have blood letting to get rid of the iron if it gets to high.

[Star of the Sea]

Simbi Laveau, on 20 December 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

They say to optimize vitamin K,it should be taken in proper amounts with vitamin D .
You should ask your doctor if either could help you ,if taken regularly .

Hi Simbi,

My INR has only gone too high a couple of times so it's not too much of a problem for me. It's keeping it thin that's my problem. It's a flippen nuisance lol!

[Simbi Laveau]

Star of the Sea, on 21 December 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

Hi Simbi!

I wish I knew where to start with natural remedies over here in the UK! I'm on a very high dose of warfarin 40 mgs a day (usually its 3mg a day) so every few months I have to switch to heparin injections as my liver has taken a pounding as I also have haematomachrosis which is another blood complication (too much iron in blood) so I have to have blood letting to get rid of the iron if it gets to high.

That's a very high dose of warfarin . You shouldn't take anything else,natural or not,to thin your blood.
Do you know if you have inflammatory issues in your vasculature ? As that too can precipitate clots .
You should eat all natural ,and no high fructose corn syrup ,EVER .
Seriously .
I'm so sorry you have to go thru this .

[Oniomancer]

This is ridiculous. You put the health warning on the medicine, not the food, like they do for medicines that interact with grapefruit.

[AsteroidX]

If you like them you should grow your own. Easy to do indoors year round.

[and then]

Oniomancer, on 21 December 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You put the health warning on the medicine, not the food, like they do for medicines that interact with grapefruit.

People who are on coumadin/warfarin do get those warnings but it's quite easy to forget and eat something especially at a holiday meal that can cause a problem.  I've been on coumadin now for about 18 months and like SoTS said - it's a flippin' nuisance!  BUT...blood clots in the lungs are MUCH WORSE!  I was raised on collards and turnips and I love cranberries....all of them are strictly VERBOTEN...