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[FLOMBIE]

True that!

[1963]

Looks like this thing is turning out to be as mundane as most of us expected....

http://www.foxnews.c...intcmp=trending



The divers recently gave samples of stone from the object to Volker Brüchert, an associate professor of geology at Stockholm University. Swedish tabloids quote Brüchert as saying: "I was surprised when I researched the material I found a great black stone that could be a volcanic rock. My hypothesis is that this object, this structure was formed during the Ice Age many thousands of years ago."
In other words, an expert appears to back up their claims that this seafloor object is unexplained, and perhaps is an Atlantis-like ancient building complex. To double check, Life's Little Mysteries consulted that expert. Turns out, neither he, nor any of the other experts contacted about the Baltic Sea object, think there is anything mysterious about it.
"It's good to hear critical voices about this 'Baltic Sea mystery,'" Brüchert wrote in an email. "What has been generously ignored by the Ocean-X team is that most of the samples they have brought up from the sea bottom are granites and gneisses and sandstones."
These, he explains, are exactly what one would expect to see in a glacial basin, which is what the Baltic Sea is — a region carved out by glacial ice long ago.
Along with the mundane rocks, the divers also gave him a single loose piece of basaltic rock, a type of rock that forms from hardened lava. This is out of place on the seafloor, but not unusual. "Because the whole northern Baltic region is so heavily influenced by glacial thawing processes, both the feature and the rock samples are likely to have formed in connection with glacial and postglacial processes," he wrote. "Possibly these rocks were transported there by glaciers."
Glaciers often have rocks embedded in them. At the end of the Ice Age, when glaciers across Northern Europe melted, the rocks inside them dropped to the Earth's surface, leaving rocky deposits all over the place. These are sometimes called glacial erratics or balancing rocks. [Gallery of the Weirdest Balancing Rocks]
Lindberg and the Ocean X Team did not respond to a request for comment on the glacial deposit theory.


we all knew that it would turn out to be something and nothing....but it's still a bummer when that opinion is close to being confirmed!  


Cheers.

[Abramelin]

I think it was made by homesick proto-Italians:it's a giant stone pizza !!

[docyabut2]

Deep-sea Baltic UFO hunt turns up mere rocks
Read more: http://www.foxnews.c...g#ixzz25K7ltdcQ

[Still Waters]

1963, on 01 September 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

Looks like this thing is turning out to be as mundane as most of us expected....

http://www.foxnews.c...intcmp=trending

we all knew that it would turn out to be something and nothing....but it's still a bummer when that opinion is close to being confirmed!  

docyabut2, on 02 September 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Deep-sea Baltic UFO hunt turns up mere rocks
Read more: http://www.foxnews.c...g#ixzz25K7ltdcQ

There's a new thread about this posted here -

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=232944

[DBunker]

I wonder how long they can milk this one before it dies?

[bison]

All the samples being spoken about are reportedly loose rocks  lying on top of the circular object. It is reasoned that they were transported by glaciers, and then dumped onto the object at the end of the last ice age. If, so, it is not surprising that they proved to be mostly ordinary rocks from this region. The real make or break tests will come when, or if, a sample of material from the object itself can be removed, and tested. The material of the objects is reported to be visibly different from ordinary rocks. If this is borne out by scientific tests, a whole world of possibilities might open up.

[DBunker]

I want the tests from the object to come back as 100% Adamantium.

[1963]

bison, on 02 September 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

All the samples being spoken about are reportedly loose rocks  lying on top of the circular object. It is reasoned that they were transported by glaciers, and then dumped onto the object at the end of the last ice age. If, so, it is not surprising that they proved to be mostly ordinary rocks from this region. The real make or break tests will come when, or if, a sample of material from the object itself can be removed, and tested. The material of the objects is reported to be visibly different from ordinary rocks. If this is borne out by scientific tests, a whole world of possibilities might open up.

Yes I could imagine that there may well be quite a lot of rocks and all manner of detritus that was deposited from the mighty glaciers of the last ice age Bison. However, I cannot imagine that The Ocean X Team wouldn't already have taken this scenario into account....therefore I believe that whatever samples they saw fit to send for analysis would not be glacier-deposited rocks [Till], but rather a sample of the anomaly itself...surely?

DBunker, on 02 September 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

I want the tests from the object to come back as 100% Adamantium.

'DBunker', Are you suggesting that the anomaly is the place of origin of....?





Cheers.

[CRIPTIC CHAMELEON]

Hmm I do like the glacier idea sounds plausible.  

[bison]

The reason given for not providing samples of the object itself for testing is this: They report so far being unable to break off a piece from the object. The material seems to be harder than anticipated.   It is reportedly still their aim to get material from the object, and submit it to testing. One wonders if the unusual hardness of the material is a significant fact in itself.

Edited by bison, 03 September 2012 - 02:34 PM.

[Abramelin]

Since the release of 9 new BlueView images people have tried to puzzle these together with the original sonar image of the anomaly. The BlueView sonar images gives approximately sizes that can be used to easier understand where each image is taken from. We managed to fit 3 (2) such pieces. The left piece dimensions was in the order of 14 m so it might not be correctly placed. We are keeping it until better solutions have been found. The result can be found below. Remember the diameter of the Baltic Anomaly is ~60 m (its height ~4m). [IMAGE].

http://thebalticanomaly.se/2012/09/

[1963]

bison, on 02 September 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

All the samples being spoken about are reportedly loose rocks  lying on top of the circular object. It is reasoned that they were transported by glaciers, and then dumped onto the object at the end of the last ice age. If, so, it is not surprising that they proved to be mostly ordinary rocks from this region. The real make or break tests will come when, or if, a sample of material from the object itself can be removed, and tested. The material of the objects is reported to be visibly different from ordinary rocks. If this is borne out by scientific tests, a whole world of possibilities might open up.

Of course you are quite correct Bison!...It would appear that I was victim to a bit of bad journalism when I doubted that the samples provided by Peter Lindberg for analysis weren't part of the actual anomaly!
As this critique of the article I posted clearly shows....The results of the analysis was the expected results by Lindberg and the X Team,... and in no way anything to do with the composition of the anomaly itself....

http://thebalticanom...bad-journalism/


...doesn't this kind of fool-making journalism make you spit feathers!

Cheers buddy.

[bison]

Yes, there's certainly a good deal of 'imprecision' in science oriented journalism. This applies to both the skeptic and advocate sides of the divide, in my experience. My only advantage here is that I have been attending very closely to this Baltic Sea object story for quite some time. There is still plenty of opportunity for error, mainly caused, I think, by problems in communication.
    The most intriguing aspect of the story at present is what the newly-released 'Blue view' sonar images seem to reveal. Everyone who has seen the first sonar image will recall the two tail-like extensions that protrude from the object, with a gap between them. The leftward, or lower extension, as the image is usually oriented, and the gap,  appear roughly rectangular in this first image. The new sonar image seems to confirm that the ends and sides of the gap and the extension are notably straight, forming nearly rectangular, symmetrical trapezoids.
   It seems a good test of the supposed artificiality of an object, that it looks more like something made by the hand of intelligence upon better, closer examination, than it did before. The famous 'Face on Mars' failed this test. The Baltic Sea object seems to have just passed it.

[DBunker]

1963, on 02 September 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

'DBunker', Are you suggesting that the anomaly is the place of origin of...

Anywhere but made on Earth would do just fine.

We dont need another BS "maybe", uncertain, vague or Inconclusive.

Edited by DBunker, 04 September 2012 - 11:02 PM.