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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:13 PM

Rioters have lit fires and stoned emergency services in the suburbs of Stockholm for the third night in a row after a man was shot dead by police.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:43 PM

Hmm that website seems to just cover environmental/geologic/astronomic issues. What's the Norwegian Jihadists doing there?

Here's some more info and videos from a more pertinent site;


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:08 PM

Riots in Stockholm!!!!!...who is doing this? :o

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:22 PM

Police Follow Up Beating A 'Possibly Intoxicated' Man To Death By Seizing Witnesses' Cell Phones
http://www.techdirt....ll-phones.shtml

Sometimes the cops go too far and should be prosecuted but that rarely happens.  Really didn't know it was a problem in Sweden.

Edited by Hilander, 23 May 2013 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostHilander, on 23 May 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Police Follow Up Beating A 'Possibly Intoxicated' Man To Death By Seizing Witnesses' Cell Phones
http://www.techdirt....ll-phones.shtml

Sometimes the cops go too far and should be prosecuted but that rarely happens.  Really didn't know it was a problem in Sweden.

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Edited by Dark_Grey, 23 May 2013 - 06:38 PM.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostHilander, on 23 May 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Police Follow Up Beating A 'Possibly Intoxicated' Man To Death By Seizing Witnesses' Cell Phones
http://www.techdirt....ll-phones.shtml

Sometimes the cops go too far and should be prosecuted but that rarely happens.  Really didn't know it was a problem in Sweden.
Sounds like it might have begun honestly as spontaneous moral outrage but the second and third nights were hooliganism I guess.  Sweden...who would have thought?

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 08:59 PM

View Postand then, on 23 May 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Sounds like it might have begun honestly as spontaneous moral outrage but the second and third nights were hooliganism I guess.  Sweden...who would have thought?

Places like Malmo, Sweden resemble Paris, in that Muslim youth routinely riot and go on car burning sprees. It's not reported here in North America, because it's not politically correct. The only quick sources I can find are the orgininal Scandavanian news reports and commentary by anti-Jihadists.

Norway and Sweden have tiny populations, so the recent Muslim immigration there have heavily skewed social problems.


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Posted 24 May 2013 - 02:21 PM

Well, it's the fifth straight day now that Stockholm's been burning and not much mention on the mainstream news. What does it take?

And the reason? The wave of Muslim immigrants apparently don't want to integrate. Sounds just like Paris and London.

I guess no one from Scandinavia reads this forum, too bad.


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Posted 24 May 2013 - 02:41 PM

View Postredhen, on 24 May 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

Well, it's the fifth straight day now that Stockholm's been burning and not much mention on the mainstream news. What does it take?

And the reason? The wave of Muslim immigrants apparently don't want to integrate. Sounds just like Paris and London.

I guess no one from Scandinavia reads this forum, too bad.

this is not surprising, one of my best mates is swedish, and only the other day we was talking about the situation,  its been brewing for some time.

Edited by stevewinn, 24 May 2013 - 02:41 PM.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 03:20 PM

I lived in Sweden for 2 years (2004-2006) and my son still lives there. I have friends in and around Stockholm, and have been there many times. Redhen, it's not as simple as "the Muslims don't want to integrate." By the way, religious groupings rarely do "integrate," by definition. They stick with their own, in their respective places of worship, worldwide.

Stevewinn makes a good point--this "has been brewing for a long time." The most significant internal political development in Sweden in the past 5 to 6 years has been the swift rise of the 'Svenskademokraterna' ('Swedish Democrats') who are anything but. They are a neo-fascist nordic-aryan-supremacist party who feel threatened by Sweden's generally open society--as open to the world's refugees as the USA was post-WW II. They now even hold seats in parliament. Their xenophobia and shortsightedness (many emulate Hitler and Norway's Quisling) have not caused these riots. They are clearly a contributing factor. They vilify and harangue anyone who is not a native-born Swede and/or "looks the part." They deserve their nazified moniker "SD."

These are riots born from unemployment, lower standards of education and an increasing gap between richer and poorer. These factors sound much like the contemporary USA (my birthplace and homeland), but are unheard of in the past several generations of Sweden's relatively utopian welfare state and open door policy for refugees. Family and friends 'in country' state that the rioters are not all Muslims/Middle Eastern/etc., but a mix of disgruntled, disaffected and violent young men and women of all 'stripes.'  

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:00 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 24 May 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

These are riots born from unemployment, lower standards of education and an increasing gap between richer and poorer. These factors sound much like the contemporary USA (my birthplace and homeland), but are unheard of in the past several generations of Sweden's relatively utopian welfare state and open door policy for refugees.

So unemployment is a license for arson, rape and murder?

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Family and friends 'in country' state that the rioters are not all Muslims/Middle Eastern/etc., but a mix of disgruntled, disaffected and violent young men and women of all 'stripes.'  

Interesting, I was unaware. Can you show me some evidence of this?

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The chickens have come home to roost, as chickens usually do.

Really? If that's the case, then you should be able to show me where Norway and Sweden have invaded and occupied Muslim countries in the past?


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Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:29 PM

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View Postitsnotoutthere, on 23 May 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

Riots in Stockholm!!!!!...who is doing this? :o

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View Postand then, on 23 May 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Sweden...who would have thought?
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it DOES seem rather bizarre doesn't it?!
the swedish are usually a byword for level-headedness!
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Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:07 PM

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Sweden reinforcing police in riot-hit Stockholm

Reinforcements of specially trained police are being sent to Stockholm after five nights of unprecedented rioting in the capital's suburbs.
Police officers are being sent from the cities of Gothenburg and Malmo, both of which saw rioting in recent years, a spokesman told BBC News.
"They are trained and educated for the police tasks going on in Stockholm," Kjell Lindgren said.
Several schools and scores of cars have been burnt in Stockholm this week.

The nightly riots began on Sunday in the north-western suburb of Husby, a deprived, largely immigrant area. It is believed they were sparked by the death of a man nearly a week before, who was shot by police after he allegedly threatened to kill them with a machete.

The unrest has since spread around the city, with groups of youths stoning police and firefighters summoned to tackle arson attacks.
The rioting has raised questions about the success of the country's attempts to integrate foreign-born residents, who now make up some 15% of the population.
In Husby, more than 80% of the 12,000 or so inhabitants are from an immigrant background, and most are from Turkey, the Middle East and Somalia.
Community activists have accused the police of using racist language during the unrest and prosecutors are investigating complaints. Police have tried to calm the situation by speaking to community leaders, such as in mosques.

with whats going on in western countries in regards to immigration and ethnic groups especially with those from a Moslem or Arab backgrounds their actions are going to cause resentment with the 'native' population, everyone has a breaking point. and its not nice watching your house being smashed up and in some cases people getting murdered by people who have been welcomed in by the host nation. - especially when most of these migrants come from despot countries. - personally i think we need tough action, because the minority of the minority is making matters worse for majority of the minority who are peaceful, law abiding citizens, who just want to live and let live. - i know its not politically correct but i'd like to see migrants who commit crimes deported. no appeals no human rights. and in some cases. when you have British Born criminals who clearly dont see themselves as British in any way shape or form they too should also be deported, so in effect making them refugees. and let some other poor b****** deal with them. like we currently deal with everyone else's waifs and strays

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:58 PM

View Postshrooma, on 24 May 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

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it DOES seem rather bizarre doesn't it?!
the swedish are usually a byword for level-headedness!
(& dodgy flat-pack furniture.....)

Well, that's because these crimes are not being committed by ethnic Scandinavians. For example, something like 90% of rapes are being committed by Muslims.



So tell me again, what's this got to do with unemployment?


Yeah, I thought so.

Don't take my word for it, just google "norway sweden muslim rape "

Edited by redhen, 24 May 2013 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 25 May 2013 - 03:14 AM

Evening (here), Redhen. I think you cherry-picked some of my opinions to make me appear a bit more hen-pecked than I actually am. My main point was that, like most social violence, these Stockholm-area riots have multiple causes. As for the fact that not all the perps are Muslim youth, I have eyewitness reports (now, given that I am their recipient, they are second-hand reports--from people I trust). As for the chickens coming home to roost, that was intentionally a double entendre; the very issue is: "Who are the chickens? In whose home do they roost?" Even chickens become bloodthirsty if they overstay their welcome, originally extended with open arms--arms now closing in self-preservation and, perhaps, regret that the chickens were ever let in to begin with.

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