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#61    Br Cornelius

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

Raftman - go away and read the extensive link posted regarding the evidence placing him in a position to do it and with a strong motive (he lost money and CIA operatives as a consequence of the Bay of Pigs). The other stuff posted is just icing.
You are the opposite of an rabid conspiracy theorist - you are a serial denier of anything which paints your precious USA in a bad light.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 02:02 PM

Things we know for sure today that was just supposed then :

i ) there was more than one shot fired
ii ) the case against Oswald was flimsy to say the least
iii ) Oswald was connected to the agency /agencies
iv ) Shaw does have or is connected to the agency / agencies
v ) the ballistic tests on the supposed murder weapon / the magical rifle was poorly conducted and inaccurate
vi ) the magic bullet theory has been totally debunked
vii ) Marina was an induced and a deliberately influenced witness testimony not to mention under pressure and or threat
vii ) witness testimonies were altered and some were deliberately ignored
viii ) there was indications of organised efforts to discredit those that questions the veracity of the official version of the events
ix )  questionable alternate versions of the events brought forward by the official investigative personal to further strengthen the official conclusions
xi ) the many discrepancies regarding the autopsy report / s
xii ) the glaring occasion of injustice carried out on both the victim AND alleged assassin

xiii ) the many viable new evidences or indication of miscarriage of justice that is deliberately ignored by the ones whose duty is to 'uphold the law and justice for all' till this day


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 03:26 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 09 July 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Things we know for sure today that was just supposed then :

i ) there was more than one shot fired
ii ) the case against Oswald was flimsy to say the least
iii ) Oswald was connected to the agency /agencies
iv ) Shaw does have or is connected to the agency / agencies
v ) the ballistic tests on the supposed murder weapon / the magical rifle was poorly conducted and inaccurate
vi ) the magic bullet theory has been totally debunked
vii ) Marina was an induced and a deliberately influenced witness testimony not to mention under pressure and or threat
vii ) witness testimonies were altered and some were deliberately ignored
viii ) there was indications of organised efforts to discredit those that questions the veracity of the official version of the events
ix )  questionable alternate versions of the events brought forward by the official investigative personal to further strengthen the official conclusions
xi ) the many discrepancies regarding the autopsy report / s
xii ) the glaring occasion of injustice carried out on both the victim AND alleged assassin

xiii ) the many viable new evidences or indication of miscarriage of justice that is deliberately ignored by the ones whose duty is to 'uphold the law and justice for all' till this day


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 02:09 AM

Dont forget number 14. Its the JFK is still Dead,and we may never know what actually Happened ! :tu:
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Posted 10 July 2013 - 03:43 AM

View Postthird_eye, on 05 July 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

Lee Bowers, Jr is definitely the key that opened the pandora box ... without him we'll still be believing that 'magic' bullet and Lee HArvey Oswald is the ballistic magus
I think we should have listened to Lee Harvey...he said "I'm just a patsy". I believe he was too.   :(

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 04:19 AM

I think it's true that the FBI or CIA had something to do with these people dieing.
Jack ruby killing Oswald was strange I think ruby was in on it.
There was a show on tv makeing ruby a hero lol

Edited by coolguy, 10 July 2013 - 04:22 AM.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:23 AM

My apologies if this has been referred to previously.

http://jfkassassinat...-tampering.html

Cogent arguments for the fact that JFK's body was tampered with before arrival at Bethesda. He did not arrive in the same casket he was placed into in Dallas. There is no undisputed provenance that the ornate casket he was seen to be placed into in Dallas contained his body when the casket was placed in Air Force One.

I'm not saying that the head and neck wounds were tampered with to make it look like Oswald was the lone shooter. He wasn't and the wounds didn't need to be tampered with to make that point.

One interesting note.
Tippit's autopsy number is ( M 63 352 ) Parkland Hospital

Oswalds autopsy number is ( M 63 356 ) Parkland Hospital

JFK's autopsy number from Bethesda is A63-272.

http://educationforu...wtopic=6473

As noted in the source, interesting that hospitals in 2 different states would use identical numbering system for autopsies.


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 12:32 PM

Heck, Rafterman, that might have been Waldo!  You finally found him! :whistle:


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Posted 10 July 2013 - 01:20 PM

View PostAntilles, on 10 July 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

My apologies if this has been referred to previously.

http://jfkassassinat...-tampering.html

Cogent arguments for the fact that JFK's body was tampered with before arrival at Bethesda. He did not arrive in the same casket he was placed into in Dallas. There is no undisputed provenance that the ornate casket he was seen to be placed into in Dallas contained his body when the casket was placed in Air Force One.

I'm not saying that the head and neck wounds were tampered with to make it look like Oswald was the lone shooter. He wasn't and the wounds didn't need to be tampered with to make that point.

One interesting note.
Tippit's autopsy number is ( M 63 352 ) Parkland Hospital

Oswalds autopsy number is ( M 63 356 ) Parkland Hospital

JFK's autopsy number from Bethesda is A63-272.

http://educationforu...wtopic=6473

As noted in the source, interesting that hospitals in 2 different states would use identical numbering system for autopsies.

Thanks for posting these links! Interesting bit of information, too.

It is definitely strange that the famous photo of LBJ being sworn in next to Jackie Kennedy, with the ornate coffin in Air Force One, is not the same coffin that arrived at the Naval Hospital in Maryland.....I definitely feel that at some point, they altered his body wounds along with the X Rays, to fit the lone assassin theory and hide the crossfire.

Thought this was interesting to note:

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Lieutenant Day apparently told no one (contemporaneously) of having "lifted" the print, apparently informing Chief Curry and Captain Fritz only several days later. It is also extremely interesting that the authorities attempted to lift prints from the dead body of Lee Oswald allegedly in order to be certain that the body was indeed the Lee Harvey Oswald who had been in the US Marines. Why was there any question about his identity? Did Federal agents obtain a palm print belatedly after Oswald’s death in an attempt to establish subsequent to the formal processing of the rifle in Washington D.C. that Oswald's print had been on the Manlicher-Carcano? This strongly suggests perfidious activity on the part of the Dallas Police and Federal Agents. For an excellent discussion see Meagher, chapter 4, pp. 120-127.


Link: http://jfkassassinat...ler-of-jfk.html

Agents fingerprinted Oswalds Corpse:
http://m.youtube.com...eature=youtu.be


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 12:31 AM

So Is everyone Clear on Whom Killed JFK now ?
Remember Ruby and his shady past,was quite the Dallas busy-man ! The stories I could tell ! :tu:

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:19 PM

You probably already know this but this just appeared on yahoo so might be something else coming up.

http://news.yahoo.co...-133633813.html


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:02 PM

View PostDuncansmom, on 11 July 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

You probably already know this but this just appeared on yahoo so might be something else coming up.

http://news.yahoo.co...-133633813.html

Thanks for posting this link! :tu:

I will probably end up buying this book to add to my collection of JFK Assassination books.....

I just finished reading, The Hit List by Richard Beltzer and David Wayne, which was a pretty great book. I couldn't put it down!

Here is a link to the book on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co...73666460&sr=8-2


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 08:38 PM

I don't know if you guys know this, but there is a great 9 part documentary called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" on Youtube. It's very good actually, I just started watching it.

Link to Episode 1 "Coup d`etat" : *snip*

Thought I would mention it in case anyone is interested....

Edited by Saru, 14 July 2013 - 10:55 AM.
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:32 PM

Oh my God, look what I found:

THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY: CBS-TV COVERAGE (NOVEMBER 22, 1963)
Link: http://m.youtube.com...d&v=wJakRip5E1U

You know November 22, 2013 will be the 50th Anniversary?


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Posted 15 July 2013 - 03:14 AM

View PostKowalski, on 13 July 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Oh my God, look what I found:

THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY: CBS-TV COVERAGE (NOVEMBER 22, 1963)
Link: http://m.youtube.com...d&v=wJakRip5E1U

You know November 22, 2013 will be the 50th Anniversary?
Come to Dallas  Girlfriend And See the event for yourself ! ITs only by a loto invite that people will get the tickets to see it ! Tons of real important Officials will be here ! I`ll invite you If my ticket is called,!

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