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[DarkShade]

There's all kinds of 'hackers' out there, each type of hacking derives a different name.  Such as, Crackers generally break open programs and manipulate them (such as mask programs that allow you to play a game without the game CD in the drive, which in turn increases piracy, but that's another subject altogether).  Hackers, the real ones, are more like trespassers and sometimes thieves.  Phreakers (though they have died down) mess with telephone service and credit card fraud.

There are a few more than that, but that's the gist of it.  I love it when I'm watching the news and the media calls someone who downloaded an illegal copy of Quake III a 'hacker'.  Anyone could be a 'hacker' in that sense, just launch Kazaa or some other P2P file sharing service.  OOH NOOESS HACKARS EVERYWAREZ!!

But enough of that subject.  I've been on computers for most of my life, from my first 8MHz, 512k RAM (that's kilobytes, not megabytes ) 20MB external hard drive the size of a pumpkin pie powerhouse.  I believe hackers, crackers, phreakers and all of the like should be treated just like real criminals.  It doesn't matter what they stole, it's against the law, they should be punished accordingly.  The hard part is, tracking them down and finding them (the crafty ones that is).  It's rather easy to find someone who downloaded illegal files off of a temporary ftp or free web space location.  The smart ones masquerade their IP, use a dummy address, or even take remote control of another persons computer, download it to their hard drive, transfer it to their own anonymously, close the connection and you are done (this is real hacking, folks).

Anyway, those are my thoughts!  

[Blood Angel]

JUst to add something to this, the man that was in court for hacker the houston thing can't remember, he said other hackers used his computer as a remote? If they did a check on his computer they should have found the trojan that he said was on there, not only that also trace connections back via logs created on his computer, to the remote users, even if they did use a anonymous proxy, the proxy servers are not above the law and must submit all logs to the courts as well, if the law had been thorough, then they should have found this, even if he was lying, then its also easy to find this, its a question on whether the law did there job correctly or not...

[saxcatz]

[saxcatz]

Quibbling about semantics...
I declare myself the winner.   

[Xenojjin]

   Hacking should be compared to real life . If you think about it , hacking into someones server and changing data is just like breaking into someones house and throwing their clohes around for no apperant reason . Hacking is just another way for kids to mess around and be "cool" . It should always be illegal .

Here is something I found out :

Recently , hackers broke into the video game corporation and stole part
of the source code for an upcoming game . The game was supposed to be one of the best games of the year , Half Life 2 ! Now valve has to rewrite part of the source code and the game has been delayed for 6 months on its original release date . Stuff like this should be punished . ( especially since I like half life ... )

  

[Phantom]

OK, everybody had their say. As an old proverb goes: Everything has already been said and done... (Or something like that   )

So, I declare this one closed.  










So, since everything has already been done, don't blame me... blame the other guy.