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[psyche101]

TheOtherSide1945, on 21 January 2013 - 04:54 AM, said:

http://www.12vn.net/...ufo-aliens.html

http://www.crystalin...ufohistory.html

http://theghostdiari...in-ancient-art/

http://2.bp.blogspot...ien carving.JPG

so people throughout history, from all over the world, have been trolling you sceptics for 1,000's of years? there is only one explanation if these are not pictures of actual aliens. they intentionally drew/painted these fake ufos and aliens to troll us. they said one day there will be the internet. on this internet there will be a forum called unexplained mysteries. there will be fanatical sceptics. there will be fanatical believers. lets troll the sceptics and mess with the weak minded believers.

I do not think people have been trolling for thousands of years, I think some unscrupulous types have decided to cash in on re-writing history and selling historical record like cheeseburgers.
Many of these photo's are pictures of Wondjina. They are spirit folk, not Aliens, they are not ever supposed to be physical. Do you know why they have no mouths? If they open them, the rain will never cease. When they die, they put their image on a wall near a waterhole, and they enter it. That is a waterhole on earth.

There you learned something, I would expect begrudgingly, all the same you have some real information, not something someone made up when they saw a cave painting. Wondjina that you have depicted as spacemen, are more certainly not spacemen. They also say Salu the Sun woman lights a fire everyday and that is the sunrise explained.

What this nonsense is, is vandalism, not proof. I thinks such idiocy should be met with the law, not a forum. Also, the  Wondjina paintings have been redone, some at least 40 times. They now sport new features such as eyebrows. Do you even know which is historical and that which is not?

The eye of God is another common art icon that is used frequently in early paintings. It is often called a flying saucer, but it is not. All ancient art has to offer is a display of willful ignorance. I think it is pretty stupid to rely on interpretations of others to provide you with the proof you can swallow. As long as it sounds cool it must be right huh?


People have no right interpreting an image without at least listening to what the culture that made it says it is. That anyone would consider such modern interpretations as proof is very telling indeed, and is anything but firming a position for the ETH. It's a tin foil hat award winner.

Seriously, how can one swallow this crap, and miss the obvious, if not weak minded????????

[psyche101]

Wearer of Hats, on 21 January 2013 - 05:49 AM, said:

animal headed deities are aliens?
I thoguht they were anthropmorphised parts of the environment, the worship of which was an attempt to exert control of their environment (ie pray to the cow-headed god of dairy farming to have healthy animals etc).

I reckon a Totem Pole would be quite an interesting animal if such depictions are considered to be accurate!

[TheOtherSide1945]

psyche101, on 21 January 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:

I do not think people have been trolling for thousands of years, I think some unscrupulous types have decided to cash in on re-writing history and selling historical record like cheeseburgers.
Many of these photo's are pictures of Wondjina. They are spirit folk, not Aliens, they are not ever supposed to be physical. Do you know why they have no mouths? If they open them, the rain will never cease. When they die, they put their image on a wall near a waterhole, and they enter it. That is a waterhole on earth.

There you learned something, I would expect begrudgingly, all the same you have some real information, not something someone made up when they saw a cave painting. Wondjina that you have depicted as spacemen, are more certainly not spacemen. They also say Salu the Sun woman lights a fire everyday and that is the sunrise explained.

What this nonsense is, is vandalism, not proof. I thinks such idiocy should be met with the law, not a forum. Also, the  Wondjina paintings have been redone, some at least 40 times. They now sport new features such as eyebrows. Do you even know which is historical and that which is not?

The eye of God is another common art icon that is used frequently in early paintings. It is often called a flying saucer, but it is not. All ancient art has to offer is a display of willful ignorance. I think it is pretty stupid to rely on interpretations of others to provide you with the proof you can swallow. As long as it sounds cool it must be right huh?


People have no right interpreting an image without at least listening to what the culture that made it says it is. That anyone would consider such modern interpretations as proof is very telling indeed, and is anything but firming a position for the ETH. It's a tin foil hat award winner.

Seriously, how can one swallow this crap, and miss the obvious, if not weak minded????????

lol and spirit beings aren't interdimensional beings? you call it vandalism, so trolling. what about the later paintings? those can't be secret military craft. i see you are p***ed off. my efforts to carry on the work of the ancient trolls is going well.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

to assume the sidhe are aliens would be to limit the sidhe - the're alien in that to man they, their aims and nature are unknowable, but not aliens in the fact they're from another planet. After all, the planet they're from is Earth, just not the same Earth we're from.

[psyche101]

TheOtherSide1945, on 21 January 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

lol and spirit beings aren't interdimensional beings?

LOL, no do you understand culture at all?

Do you feel if we had a visit from an Interdimensional being, that it would need to keep it's mouth closed, or the rain would never stop falling? Or do they light a fire in space, wich is the real explanation for the sun? Or what about that giant snake I mentioned? The Rainbow Serpent  Just another friendly inter-dimensional being that visits planets to carve them river systems? Have you ever read how the Australian Indigenous explain why crows are black?

Do you know what the Dreamtime is?

TheOtherSide1945, on 21 January 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

you call it vandalism, so trolling.

No vandalism, Call a spade a spade, Real damage is being done, that is vandalism. what you are doing is trolling, and I will explain how further down.

TheOtherSide1945, on 21 January 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

what about the later paintings? those can't be secret military craft.

What about them? They have common theme icons in them too. Whilst my understanding of medieval and ancient art is minimal, your's seems to be nonexistent. How much time have you spent trying to understand real art? How many artists have you read about?

None hey, but I bet you have many woo woo sites under you belt, saving you such work, and telling you what you want to hear.  

TheOtherSide1945, on 21 January 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

i see you are p***ed off. my efforts to carry on the work of the ancient trolls is going well.

And here I wiIl get back to the above-mentioned comment.
This is "your effort" is it? To annoy those who have a think about this nonsense, instead of swallowing it blindly? That is what you are proud of is it? Making sure no actual fact gets out, but the crackpot theories get center stage? This is what makes you tick is it? You want to see that any descriptions of actual historical record are buried, and that fringe crackpot theories that have only risen in the last 75 years get precedence? You want to make sure nobody gets a fair crack at history you want to be able to guide that history do you?

And you are proud of yourself for this?? Really? I most certainly would not only be ashamed to publicly say I only want ET in so I can annoy skeptics, I would be embarrassed at all those who do study these record, historian and the like, not to mention those not even born that never get a crack at the actual record, but the modern interpretation used to sell nonsense.

Seriously, if that is what makes you tick, I would have a really, good long and hard look in the mirror. I am upset at the actual loss of real history, and this is what makes you smile? That's a bit sick I reckon.

Edited by psyche101, 21 January 2013 - 07:09 AM.

[Crikey]

Wearer of Hats, on 20 January 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

..There is not one scrap of physical evidence let behind. Not a shred of torn uniform, not a misplaced book, not a lost shoe, nothing. Not even a footprint....

Think "Prime Directive" non-interference policy!
The Federation learnt long ago that if you mess with a planetary civilisation's natural development, it can cause trouble. Sometimes they felt they HAD to intervene, for example to stop an earthquake or nova etc from trashing a planet, but in every case they took pains to ensure their presence wasn't revealed, so they "cleaned up" after themselves to leave no evidence..

[Crikey]

seeder, on 20 January 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

It doesn't need 20 pages to explain it, its a single post by me.. but I cant be bothered to look thru last 20 pages and find it. Ive done tonnes of research for this thread. .

Why should you have to search for your post that explains jigsaw walls?
If the explanation is so simple, can't you remember it without having to go look it up?

[seeder]

TheOtherSide1945, on 21 January 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:

lol and spirit beings aren't interdimensional beings? you call it vandalism, so trolling. what about the later paintings? those can't be secret military craft. i see you are p***ed off. my efforts to carry on the work of the ancient trolls is going well.

have a look at first few minutes of this vid..to see your ancient alien figures...in a different light



if you like it and watch it all, (something I know is excruciating for pro AA believers to do), then you'll find part one to watch too.

Edited by seeder, 21 January 2013 - 07:01 AM.

[psyche101]

Crikey, on 21 January 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

Think "Prime Directive" non-interference policy!
The Federation learnt long ago that if you mess with a planetary civilisation's natural development, it can cause trouble. Sometimes they felt they HAD to intervene, for example to stop an earthquake or nova etc from trashing a planet, but in every case they took pains to ensure their presence wasn't revealed, so they "cleaned up" after themselves to leave no evidence..

That is for pre warp civilisation, not to mention, a TV show.

It is not what we do though is it. We conquered the Americas, Australia, New Zealand, Britain, you name it without a second thought to a prime directive. Cook got of the boat and walked up and introduced himself. We traded, fought, lost and won. Before this time, natives were trading across Oceans in Australia's top end for trade. In real life, we do not give a second thought to a prime directive or other. But if we are observing animals in nature, then we will remain covert to study them, because we cannot just walk up to a tiger and say "How do you usually bring down a Gazelle? Is it hard?

[psyche101]

Crikey, on 21 January 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:

Why should you have to search for your post that explains jigsaw walls?
If the explanation is so simple, can't you remember it without having to go look it up?

He has already done the work, and presented it well, is it fair of you to ask him to repeat it because you have not bothered with the last 20 pages? Nobody likes doing things twice do they.

Edited by psyche101, 21 January 2013 - 07:08 AM.

[seeder]

Crikey, on 21 January 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:

Why should you have to search for your post that explains jigsaw walls?
If the explanation is so simple, can't you remember it without having to go look it up?

I posted it just FOR YOU ...just one page back. And you miss it? Don't you bother reading even one page before commenting?

[seeder]

If someone will agree that the generally accepted aged of puma punku was 500 ad...please say so and then I will amaze the AA theorists, and blow their theories out of the water

[psyche101]

seeder, on 21 January 2013 - 07:32 AM, said:

If someone will agree that the generally accepted aged of puma punku was 500 ad...please say so and then I will amaze the AA theorists, and blow their theories out of the water

This is on WIki, with supporting links.

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Age

Determining the age of the Pumapunku complex has been a focus of researchers since the discovery of the Tiwanaku site. As noted by Andean specialist, Binghamton University Anthropology professor W. H. Isbell,^[2] a radiocarbon date was obtained by Vranich^[3] from organic material from lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill forming the Pumapunku. This layer was deposited during the first of three construction epochs and dates the initial construction of the Pumapunku at 1510 ±25 B.P. C14 (AD 440; calibrated, AD 536–600). Since the radiocarbon date came from the lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill underlying the andesite and sandstone stonework, the stonework must have been constructed sometime after 1510 ±25 B.P. C14. The excavation trenches of Vranich show that the clay, sand, and gravel fill of the Pumapunku complex lie directly on the sterile middle Pleistocene sediments. These excavation trenches also demonstrated the lack of any pre-Andean Middle Horizon cultural deposits within the area of the Tiwanaku Site adjacent to the Pumapunku complex.^[3]

LINK

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Crikey, on 21 January 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

Think "Prime Directive" non-interference policy!

And what a successful policy THAT was.
Picard ended up as a God, Data a daemon from hell, other captains turned worlds into a Nazi utopia, Chicago in the 30s, Kirk stole some whales (and possible lead to the extinction of whales in the first place) ....

[seeder]

psyche101, on 21 January 2013 - 07:42 AM, said:

This is on WIki, with supporting links.

Ok thanks. You see out of curiosity I decided to look up what had been invented in 500 ad.

I found a page that lists inventions between Years : 1 AD to 1,000 AD. Then I simply looked at all things before and up to...500 ad, you see I really wanted to know what was going in the world at those time, take a look at the lists

http://www.krysstal.... AD to 1,000 AD

I was most surprised, unless I have some sort of mental; block on understanding what AD really is?

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Edited by seeder, 21 January 2013 - 07:54 AM.