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[Fstop]

slaughtr, on 21 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

If you have any doubts then don't even comment. In my opinion Big foot exist and not always does there have to be blood and specimen proof like one post said really what the hell do you have to gain by lying and hundreds have seen this yeti creature. I hope one day a skeptic like most of you run into this creature and he scares the hell out you then come back and comment. It's to much proof it exist, just because it hasn't been caught doesn't justify it does not exist, they said the same thing about ghost but even paranormal can be proven to a big degree understood totally No!.

Look, Bigfoot is supposedly an animal, right?  If bigfoot is real and is an animal, then in order for it to be vetted scientifically and take its rightful place alongside all the other animals, it is going to have to be studied and categorized just like EVERY OTHER ANIMAL that has ever been added to the roster.  What is truly ridiculous is that people think that Bigfoot should somehow be immune to this, and that skeptics are just being jerks when we have a hard time believing in an animal that purportedly breaks all the rules.

Whether you like science or not, science is the process by which animals are vetted and verified- and until science can get its hands on one for study, the thing is a myth.  I would love nothing more that for these animals to be proven.  But Proven its going to have to be before I elect to believe in its existence.

[Clobhair-cean]

shrooma, on 21 February 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

yes.
Dowsing.

I don't want to go off topic, but I haven't seen any proper, controlled studies that showed that dowsing works any better than pure chance. Could you provide a link?

Edited by Clobhair-cean, 21 February 2013 - 03:37 PM.

[shrooma]

Clobhair-cean, on 21 February 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

I don't want to go off topic, but I haven't seen any proper, controlled studies that showed that dowsing works any better than pure chance. Could you provide a link?

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can't post links i'm afraid, i'm using a phone, not a computer, and a phone that has a little flap at the back where you shovel in coal to make it work, but there's been enough tests and research done on the subject that i'm sure you'll be able to find something, sorry.....

[Andromedan Starseed 333]

wow that's so cool!!!:)where was this at?like what state and city if its within the united states?or what country and state?I bet there's a lot of these creatures that science aleast mainstream science refuses to acknowledge because its too "out there"or just a myth.it all goes back to what I said before science is just a baby and limited and only designed to study certain things and matter.maybe there relatives these Bigfoot creatures and most likely there are.they are researching Bigfoot DNA and they discovered its not human or animal but a hybrid of some kind.and they are reported in many state as well.there's too much people talking about them,people researching them,people seeing them and etc to dismiss or even say all pictures and etc are a hoax.I noticed something for a long time people are quick to say "fake" and its a "hoax" without researching or even. taking the time to look right and properly and etc!!!poor ignorant and small minded people and skeptics lol:) lol

[supervike]

slaughtr, on 21 February 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

If you have any doubts then don't even comment.

This would be a very boring discussion board if everyone just always believed everything.

I don't think it's too much for people to ask for more proof.

[Totah Dine]

Fstop, on 20 February 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Sounds exactly as credible as any other Bigfoot story from any other human recounting a frightening experience that resulted in an emotional memory clouded by belief and pareidolia.  Supported by a blurry blobsquatch photo taken with a cell phone no less.  

I'm sure the guy telling the story is a good guy, probably honest too.  But he got scared and saw something else that his frightened mind interpreted as Bigfeet, a belief that has solidified as time has gone on.  Human senses are fallible and prone to error.  Eyewitness accounts are not evidence, not until someone actually proves these things exist with a flesh and blood specimen.  Sorry folks, these stories are a dime a dozen.

I have been a member of this site since 2010 and have held my peace due to the ridicule and derogatory remarks that plague these threads.  There's a big difference between skepticism and poisonous cynicism.  I had an experience over 25 years ago in my front yard.  Less than 10 feet from me.  I have lived here since birth and spent my childhood roaming the woods by the river.  I have seen just about all the wildlife this area has to offer.  Me and my brothers would camp out during the summer and never encountered anything unusual.  

Not until one summer night when I was showing two of my nephews the stars.  Since that night I haven't been camping or hiking in the woods.  I won't even go outside after dark unless I absolutely have to.  Like I said, this was over 25 years ago.  I'm 50 now.  I won't look out the windows after dark.  There is no mistaking what I saw.  

I won't share my encounter.  I've seen the ridicule and denigration that some members seem to take pride in and sharing would only add more kindling to the fire.

It was a traumatic experience that has altered my life and I wish it had never happened.  Every time the dogs start barking at night I don't sleep.  I stay away from the windows and pray with all my heart that what I saw never comes back.

I was a skeptic and as a Christian was entirely sure that God would never allow something like that to walk the earth.  My encounter shook me to the very core of my being.

Now I'm going to slip back into the ether and never mention it again.

Edited by Totah Dine, 21 February 2013 - 06:51 PM.

[JesseCuster]

King Cobra 1408 said:

wow that's so cool!!!:)where was this at?like what state and city if its within the united states?or what country and state?I bet there's a lot of these creatures that science aleast mainstream science refuses to acknowledge because its too "out there"or just a myth.it all goes back to what I said before science is just a baby and limited and only designed to study certain things and matter.maybe there relatives these Bigfoot creatures and most likely there are.they are researching Bigfoot DNA and they discovered its not human or animal but a hybrid of some kind.and they are reported in many state as well.there's too much people talking about them,people researching them,people seeing them and etc to dismiss or even say all pictures and etc are a hoax.I noticed something for a long time people are quick to say "fake" and its a "hoax" without researching or even. taking the time to look right and properly and etc!!!poor ignorant and small minded people and skeptics lol:) lol

Yes, science is close-minded and refuses to acknowledge anything weird or new.

Apart from special and general relativity, quantum mechanics, computer science, discovered close to a thousand planets outside our solar system, discovered, studied and classifed thousands upon thousands of species, learned amazing things about the history of life on earth, the history of the solar system and the universe beyond, unraveled the genome of humans and other species and are starting to understand what fundamentally makes us tick etc. within the past century or so.

Considering some of the things scientists have discovered and learned about the universe in recent human history, a new species of large hominid living in remote areas of North America wouldn't be particularly far out there.  It sure would be exciting, and I don't see why zoologists wouldn't want to be involved in make such an amazing discovery.  Why are zoologists in general so eager to find new species and announces them to the world but for some reason one of the most exciting new species proven potentially in recent times would discourage them?  I don't buy it for a second.

You are right that science is suitable for studying certain things (but it's a hell of a range of things) but discovering, studying and documenting new species is one of the things that science (zoology in particular) does.

Anyway, as to the photo in the article.  It honestly just looks like variations in the colors of the vegetation to me that vaguely resemble a humanoid form.  Pity (as usual) it's such a small photo.  Is there a larger version available for looking at?

Edited by Archimedes, 21 February 2013 - 06:58 PM.

[J. K.]

Totah Dine, on 21 February 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

It was a traumatic experience that has altered my life and I wish it had never happened.  Every time the dogs start barking at night I don't sleep.  I stay away from the windows and pray with all my heart that what I saw never comes back.

I understand.  When you look out a window and see something looking back at you, it does change everything.

[Fstop]

King Cobra 1408, on 21 February 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

wow that's so cool!!!:)where was this at?like what state and city if its within the united states?or what country and state?I bet there's a lot of these creatures that science aleast mainstream science refuses to acknowledge because its too "out there"or just a myth.it all goes back to what I said before science is just a baby and limited and only designed to study certain things and matter.maybe there relatives these Bigfoot creatures and most likely there are.they are researching Bigfoot DNA and they discovered its not human or animal but a hybrid of some kind.and they are reported in many state as well.there's too much people talking about them,people researching them,people seeing them and etc to dismiss or even say all pictures and etc are a hoax.I noticed something for a long time people are quick to say "fake" and its a "hoax" without researching or even. taking the time to look right and properly and etc!!!poor ignorant and small minded people and skeptics lol:) lol

It is isn't the fault of science that you don't understand how science works.  But science forgives you, because as Nathaniel DeGrasse Tyson famously said - "the great thing about science is that it is true whether you believe in it or not."  

[OverSword]

QuiteContrary, on 20 February 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

All I can do is go by the article, description and photo but I'm amazed at the vision on this eye-witness (as usual).

I don't know about that.  From my office I can see the space needle clear as day, and large, but if I take a picture with my crappy little cell phone you can barely see it.

[OverSword]

Totah Dine, on 21 February 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

I have been a member of this site since 2010 and have held my peace due to the ridicule and derogatory remarks that plague these threads.  There's a big difference between skepticism and poisonous cynicism.

Hi Totah Dine, I've never seen one but in 77 or 78 saw prints near a swamp in western Washington.  Granted there are ocassionally people faking prints but as the years went by and  I thought about it, I found these prints far far off the beaten track where no hoaxer would bother planting them.  I don't know for a fact that they exist but I do know that 90% of the land in my state is factually uninhabited so I believe it's possible.

[ufonuts]

Silly People, it was BoBo from BRFO Big Foot Hunters Show!

Archimedes, on 21 February 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Yes, science is close-minded and refuses to acknowledge anything weird or new.

Apart from special and general relativity, quantum mechanics, computer science, discovered close to a thousand planets outside our solar system, discovered, studied and classifed thousands upon thousands of species, learned amazing things about the history of life on earth, the history of the solar system and the universe beyond, unraveled the genome of humans and other species and are starting to understand what fundamentally makes us tick etc. within the past century or so.

Considering some of the things scientists have discovered and learned about the universe in recent human history, a new species of large hominid living in remote areas of North America wouldn't be particularly far out there.  It sure would be exciting, and I don't see why zoologists wouldn't want to be involved in make such an amazing discovery.  Why are zoologists in general so eager to find new species and announces them to the world but for some reason one of the most exciting new species proven potentially in recent times would discourage them?  I don't buy it for a second.

You are right that science is suitable for studying certain things (but it's a hell of a range of things) but discovering, studying and documenting new species is one of the things that science (zoology in particular) does.

Anyway, as to the photo in the article.  It honestly just looks like variations in the colors of the vegetation to me that vaguely resemble a humanoid form.  Pity (as usual) it's such a small photo.  Is there a larger version available for looking at?

Was it a reflection? LOL JK

[QuiteContrary]

OverSword, on 21 February 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

I don't know about that.  From my office I can see the space needle clear as day, and large, but if I take a picture with my crappy little cell phone you can barely see it.

I also went by the article which stated he was "at a far distance".
We can all see the trees clearly in the photo, but a clear-as-day face? I live not far from there and I think I may check it out and see the distance for myself. It is the only way to judge fairly.

[pallidin]

My wife say's I'm really hairy.

I guess I need to stop walking around outside after consuming a few brews.

I do use conditioner and occasional coloring.  

Edited by pallidin, 21 February 2013 - 10:01 PM.

[kewlscot]

you need the hubble telescope to see these pictures, someone use your noggin, make the pics bigger please