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[notoverrated]

Toadie, on 10 August 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

I'm sure you are old enough to make your own choices? Just because you where brought up in that culture doesn't mean you have to die by that culture. Just because it was breathed down your back doesn't mean you should breathe it down your families back.

veryone have diffrent circumstances for situations they are in.

[B Randomly]

Here's a breakdown of what he's trying to get across in a shorthand approach

1 (allah/creator/etc)
+(commanding/creating/creation)
(+/-) (all there is, duality of nature, pos/neg, male/female, etc) - the parenthesis around +/- is "free will".... and +/-, he is saying, is the lifestyle you lead... either a positive or negative.
= (Judgement)
Infinity (for all, or in this case, the rest of, existance) heaven/hell

or  1 + (+/-) = Infinity..... the outcome of the equation is either (pos)infinity/heaven or (neg)infinity/hell

To write out the equation in words - "creator commanded the creation of 'all there is', and within 'all there is' is the free-will of humans.  Humans can lead a positive lifestyle, and lead to +infinity(heaven), or negative lifestyle and lead to -infinity(hell)."

He, basically, explains most people's core religious views, mathematically, and link them to certain parts of the quaran (I won't say anything there, because I've never read it).  Then just blasts all other religions, mainly christianity, for believing something different(father=son=holy ghost), which by his math, does not fit because the son is finite, whereas father and holy ghost are infinite.

Have a great day everyone.  And good luck to the 'closed-minded', who form opinions before understanding.

Edited by B Randomly, 10 August 2012 - 05:59 PM.

[Quaentum]

B Randomly, on 10 August 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Here's a breakdown of what he's trying to get across in a shorthand approach

1 (allah/creator/etc)
+(commanding/creating/creation)
(+/-) (all there is, duality of nature, pos/neg, male/female, etc) - the parenthesis around +/- is "free will".... and +/-, he is saying, is the lifestyle you lead... either a positive or negative.
= (Judgement)
Infinity (for all, or in this case, the rest of, existance) heaven/hell

or  1 + (+/-) = Infinity..... the outcome of the equation is either (pos)infinity/heaven or (neg)infinity/hell

To write out the equation in words - "creator commanded the creation of 'all there is', and within 'all there is' is the free-will of humans.  Humans can lead a positive lifestyle, and lead to +infinity(heaven), or negative lifestyle and lead to -infinity(hell)."

He, basically, explains most people's core religious views, mathematically, and link them to certain parts of the quaran (I won't say anything there, because I've never read it).  Then just blasts all other religions, mainly christianity, for believing something different(father=son=holy ghost), which by his math, does not fit because the son is finite, whereas father and holy ghost are infinite.

Have a great day everyone.  And good luck to the 'closed-minded', who form opinions before understanding.

You can apply that to any religion or mythos so it doesn't actually prove anything, unless you believe Zeus was a real deity.

[Darkwind]

I don't understand why Muslims would use such a silly equation and not the Mandelbrot set for trying to prove there is a god. Not that I think  Mandelbrot set is proof of a god, but it comes a lot closer than what y'all have here. Is it maybe cause Mandelbrot wasn't a Muslim.

[Rlyeh]

B Randomly, on 10 August 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Have a great day everyone.  And good luck to the 'closed-minded', who form opinions before understanding.

It would be great if you could educate yourself on mathematical equations before pretending to be "open minded" and criticising other's understanding (something you clearly fail yourself). Because the crap you babbled, is not a mathematical equation.

Edited by Rlyeh, 11 August 2012 - 03:40 AM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Ummm.... if you're interpreting the "=" in the equation as meaing "judgement" then it's not a mathematical equation, it's  a philosophical statement. the "=" in maths always means one thing - equivalwnce. one side of an equation seperated by that simbol is the same as the other.

[SUPERSquatch]

Why is Allah the number "one"? Because the Qur'an says so? Do you know how many times people have used mathematics to prove or disprove things? A lot, and they usually failed cough cough *Harold Camping* cough.

[J. K.]

Rlyeh, on 10 August 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

"1 + (+|-) = ∞"

Thats definitely not a mathematical equation, its gibberish.

We're in agreement about something, Rlyeh - isn't that scary?  

As a preacher, I think I see some of the philosophical metaphors he's applying, but it eventually falls apart.  As a math teacher, I would say that everyone is correct: "1 + (+|-) = ∞" is not a valid mathematical statement.

[Mnemonix]

Case closed then

[Beckys_Mom]

Lrak, on 11 August 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Case closed then

Fair play to you for trying...

[Darkwind]

Lrak, on 11 August 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Case closed then

For that equation yes, but there are other things that have been long held as sacred pertaining to geometry.  Like the golden ratio.

http://www.geometryc...acred-geometry/

Also there is the Mandelbrot set.  Which I have used for meditation. They didn't really understand what this was until computers came along and they were able to put color values to the numbers.  Fractals are how much of nature are setup. Cool stuff.

http://www.ddewey.net/mandelbrot/

[Mnemonix]

I'll take a look, thank you.

[J. K.]

Darkwind, on 11 August 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

For that equation yes, but there are other things that have been long held as sacred pertaining to geometry.  Like the golden ratio.

The golden ratio is absolutely fascinating.  It's amazing how it can be found in so many things.

[JGirl]

Harsh86_Patel, on 10 August 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

I have discovered the true religion and God.If anyone can prove me wrong be ready to be shot....................and i challenge all of you to prove me wrong

yawn.
if you say so.
what i want to know is why is it so important that other people believe you? you discovered it good for you go enjoy it.

[JGirl]

Wearer of Hats, on 11 August 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

Ummm.... if you're interpreting the "=" in the equation as meaing "judgement" then it's not a mathematical equation, it's  a philosophical statement. the "=" in maths always means one thing - equivalwnce. one side of an equation seperated by that simbol is the same as the other.

that's what i was thinking too