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[bmk1245]

WoIverine, on 24 January 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

BMK man...it's just common sense, which would you rather eat, natural foods that have been around for millenia, or modified foods that have been around for a few years? Which group do you think has more evidence of being healthy? I mean come on, you don't even really have to think about it to know. Scientists screw up all the time, they're human. No one knows the long term effects of GMOs (or medication) until potential damage is already done. Some people would rather not take the chance, and that is their right to do so. I'll ask you this, why do so many people eat organic? There must be a reason for that...maybe they like staying healthy and not putting unknowns into their body...

Where to start... How many natural foods (which weren't gone through selection, aka gene mutations, which took years to come into the present "form") do you have on your table? Ever tried wild carrots? Or "tasty" and "yummy" wild apples (don't confuse with Malus). Try eat/survive on those for a week, and see what your impressions of natural foods will be.
Nowadays flavor/taste/resilience to parasites can be "built" in the lab. Does it mean its bad?

[Coffey]

I do bushcraft I'm perfectly happy to what nature supplies.

Going to ignore BMK now, I mean seriously as Wolverine said it's common sense.

[bmk1245]

Coffey, on 24 January 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

I do bushcraft I'm perfectly happy to what nature supplies.

Going to ignore BMK now, I mean seriously as Wolverine said it's common sense.

What a shock!
Having zero/ziltch/nada to support the claims... As always with woowooland dwellers and quackery supporters...

[WoIverine]

Ok, I'm done, clearly this is the twilight zone. Natural food apparently equals quackery. Right.

Edited by WoIverine, 24 January 2013 - 09:35 PM.

[spartan max2]

as always anyone who is not mainstream is a "quack" . please

[WoIverine]

spartan max2, on 24 January 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

as always anyone who is not mainstream is a "quack" . please

I don't even think that's mainstream man, most people eat actual food, but apparently they're all quacks too since they prefer not to consume a bunch of chemicals and preservatives. However that logic works. lol

Edited by WoIverine, 24 January 2013 - 09:41 PM.

[Sweetpumper]

WoIverine, on 24 January 2013 - 09:29 PM, said:

Ok, I'm done, clearly this is the twilight zone. Natural food apparently equals quackery. Right.

If someone is actually implying that, I won't bother to read this thread.  That's gotta be one of the dumbest things ever posted.

[CrimsonKing]

I have never heard such nonsense about anything to do with health in my life,charts are garbage.I will continue to eat my way and you eat yours bmk,though i would like to see blood samples,body fat %,vitamin mineral deficiency levels,and so on compared to someone who eats pure junk.I would bet its astonishing!

[bmk1245]

WoIverine, on 24 January 2013 - 09:29 PM, said:

Ok, I'm done, clearly this is the twilight zone. Natural food apparently equals quackery. Right.

Taking out of context. As usual. Where did I say eating vegetables is quackery? Claims that  veggies will make you safe from cancer - thats quackery, claims that tiny bit of GMOs will make you sick - thats quackery.
You've been eating genetically  modified food from your childhood, as well as those who have been eating this food in, say, 40s - apples, carrots, potatoes (I wonder why European weren't extinct  when they were introduced with potatoes/pomatoes), wheat, rye, etc, etc. Every single plant was modified, and some modified quite quickly. Why do you think there are so many species of apples, potatoes, rye, etc, and how many of them emerged just in 20^th century, huh?
BTW, are chemicals in your antioxidant supplements bad, or good?  What will happen if one will take too much vitamin C (one of the most antioxidants used), and is it extracted form the plants, or is it synthesized in Big pharma factories? If latter, will it make you sick?

[bmk1245]

CrimsonKing, on 24 January 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

I have never heard such nonsense about anything to do with health in my life,charts are garbage.I will continue to eat my way and you eat yours bmk,though i would like to see blood samples,body fat %,vitamin mineral deficiency levels,and so on compared to someone who eats pure junk.I would bet its astonishing!

Don't worry, I still eat meat and smoke cigars from time to time (even after MI), I eat vegetables (and did it in the past), I eat fruits (and did it in the past), and I don't give a rats munch about torturing myself with eating just raw food (heh, sent those raw eaters to Siberia, how long will they last?). Ever wonder why vegetable eating creatures have so big bellies?

[CrimsonKing]

I am a personal trainer,have trained boxing since my grandfather got me into it at 9 years old,trained for mma for the last 9 years.Believe me im carnivorous lol,but i dont touch refined sugars,starches,or pre packaged meals.My vices are bourbon,brandy,and occasional cigs.I have always believed you are what you eat,though this term has been used against me by a ex girlfriend or 2 hahaha

[bmk1245]

CrimsonKing, on 24 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

I am a personal trainer,have trained boxing since my grandfather got me into it at 9 years old,trained for mma for the last 9 years.Believe me im carnivorous lol,but i dont touch refined sugars,starches,or pre packaged meals.[...]

You mean with chemicals? But many of those chemicals you can find in said natural foods.

Now about the claims that if GMO repels insects and/or are resistant to all sorts of "illnesses" even small amount of it will cause harm. How about those natural foods which were developed through selection and are resistant to "illnesses"? For example, Ballyfatten apples are resistant to scab and canker. Will it make me sick if I will eat those apples? If apples with similar properties will be "made" in the lab, will eating those make me sick, or will it be safe?

CrimsonKing, on 24 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

[...] though this term has been used against me by a ex girlfriend or 2 hahaha

Let me guess, she called you animal