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[notforgotten]

JGirl, on 30 December 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

sin is a christian concept designed to keep the flock under control
so try a different approach please. on second thought don't. it's all been done before and all been discredited before. you just make a bigger fool of yourself with every post

Closed minds reep no wisdom.

[JGirl]

notforgotten, on 30 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

Closed minds reep no wisdom.

oh so very very true
ironic you should use that as an argument

[Hilander]

notforgotten, on 30 December 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

You guys are really funny. Their have been millions of people who have witnessed demons. In a court of law,  surely that many witnesses would win the case!

A court will accept circumstantial evidence UMer's won't.

[ColoradoParanormal]

Hey Maggiej, welcome to UM. What you're expressing sounds pretty identical to sleep Paralyss. I've had episodes of SP myself and each time it's been a different experience. The first time was scary at first, however knowing and identifying I was going through SP, I was able to remain calm and slowly pull myself out of it. If it ever happens again, tell yourself that you're simply in an SP episode, not to fear or be scared, and then focus slowly on moving your toes, legs, etc etc.

Knowledge is key here. Study on Sleep Paralysis, read and learn.

[ColoradoParanormal]

notforgotten, on 30 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

Demons are real, I'm an eyewitness to two and I've been possessed by one twice. Also, I've witnessed some of their powers. I've witnessed all this while I was awake! Often times we are out of our bodies in dreams and if people payed attention to dreams, they could witness evil spirits as well as some powers of demons. Sleep paralysis is merely when the body is asleep and can not move while the spirit is awake. Doctors are not always correct.

sleep paralysis can consist of different events for different individuals. Most experience being "pinned" down, hearing voices, seeing things moving around them, etc. However, some SP can even entail smells, other feelings, physical attributes etc. Sounds a lot like most "physical" encounters with Ghosts/Demons I've heard about.

[Imaginarynumber1]

notforgotten, on 30 December 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Sin brings evil spirits into our lives. I know of two of them, but I would be discreet and not tell many people of them in fear of them harming themselves. I'm being for real you guys, this is no joke!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sin. That's a good one!   I must have THOUSANDS of demons after me!!!!!!

[Imaginarynumber1]

JGirl, on 30 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

oh so very very true
ironic you should use that as an argument

Awesome.

[JGirl]

Hilander, on 30 December 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

A court will accept circumstantial evidence UMer's won't.

a court will consider/allow circumstantial evidence, but it's validity is very questionable. in order for it to have any credence it must have some form of corroberation to give it the weight it needs to be considered by the jury.
in a jury room the jurors have all the say in what is important and what isn't, what is valid and what isn't, and ultimately what is true and what isn't.
i know. i was a juror in a murder trial of a man who slit his girlfriend's throat. nasty business to be sure, but it was a very interesting experience to be part of that process and i took it very seriously. so please understand that i do know what i speak of with regard to what is offered as evidence and what is actually considered to have any weight as evidence.

Edited by JGirl, 30 December 2012 - 10:43 PM.

[Sakari]

JGirl, on 30 December 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

a court will consider circumstantial evidence, but it's validity is very quesitonable. in order for it to have an credence it must have some form of corroberation to give it the weight it needs to be considered by the jury.
in a jury room the jurors have all the say in what is important and what isn't, what is valid and what isn't, and ultimately what is true and what isn't.
i know. i was a juror in a murder trial of a man who slit his girlfriend's throat. nasty business to be sure, but it was a very interesting experience to be part of that process and i took it very seriously. so please understand that i do know what i speak of with regard to what is offered as evidence and what is actually considered to have any weight as evidence.

Good valid points......

And, if anything on any site such as this were on " trial " 99% of it would be " hear say " and could not be used anyway.

Anyway, where did that demon go?

[notforgotten]

JGirl, on 30 December 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

a court will consider/allow circumstantial evidence, but it's validity is very questionable. in order for it to have any credence it must have some form of corroberation to give it the weight it needs to be considered by the jury.
in a jury room the jurors have all the say in what is important and what isn't, what is valid and what isn't, and ultimately what is true and what isn't.
i know. i was a juror in a murder trial of a man who slit his girlfriend's throat. nasty business to be sure, but it was a very interesting experience to be part of that process and i took it very seriously. so please understand that i do know what i speak of with regard to what is offered as evidence and what is actually considered to have any weight as evidence.

Yes, but millions of witnesses?...surely they would win!...without a doubt!! Case closed!!!

Edited by notforgotten, 30 December 2012 - 10:50 PM.

[JGirl]

Sakari, on 30 December 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Good valid points......

And, if anything on any site such as this were on " trial " 99% of it would be " hear say " and could not be used anyway.

Anyway, where did that demon go?

the only demon i'm aware of is the mucous demon that has invaded my sinus cavities! out with you, oh evil snot-demon, out!!

[JGirl]

notforgotten, on 30 December 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Yes, but millions of witnesses?...surely they would win!...without a doubt!! Case closed!!!

what are you babbling about? the only case that closed here is the one touting tales of demons

[Sakari]

notforgotten, on 30 December 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Yes, but millions of witnesses?...surely they would win!...without a doubt!! Case closed!!!

Millions?

Show me a list of more then 50 claims of witnesses.....

How come I could not get a demon?....Can you answer that for me on the other topic?

[notforgotten]

Sakari, on 30 December 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

Millions?

Show me a list of more then 50 claims of witnesses.....

How come I could not get a demon?....Can you answer that for me on the other topic?

50 will do...case closed. But, you could go long before Jesus on this one.

Edited by notforgotten, 30 December 2012 - 11:05 PM.

[JGirl]

notforgotten, on 30 December 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

50 will do...case closed.

as far as who is concerned...you?