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[bee]

JimOberg, on 15 November 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

Before you go voyaging off on expeditions of wild conjecture, wouldn't it be sensible to verify that the original story is worth it?

Seems to me that any reality-based agenda would take that step first, or risk getting hopelessly and uselessly lost. Again.

But that's just me.

well I  have tried a bit...but it looks like it could be difficult (as you probably already know?)


http://www.theliving...Images_A22.html


but when you go to that thread on ATS...they had a major problem with disappearing links and images....



http://www.abovetops.../pg9#pid3984135



then there is this....


http://www.lpi.usra....mm/magazine/?05


but the colours look weird and wrong on some of those images...like the AS07-05-1613 one


http://www.lpi.usra....e/?AS07-05-1613



never mind...probably a cover up, eh Jim?.......





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[JimOberg]

TheMacGuffin, on 15 November 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

Apollo 7. October 1968.  This "Green Fireball" was heading up from the earth rather than going down.  LOL

Asking again -- is there any evidence these are anything but ink splatter on some 4th generation reprint?

[JimOberg]

bee, on 15 November 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

never mind...probably a cover up, eh Jim?.......

That's not the first, or even the 101st, explanation that comes to mind.

How about yet another silly wild goose film emulsion chase, for the peanut gallery to thrill over.

As Hynek warned, no photo is of any evidential use without testimony of the person who took it and saw the anomaly himself.

Why should these be any exception?

What's the eyewitness testimony regarding these photos? Where can I find it?

Where did you find it?

You didn't?

How pathetic.

[JimOberg]

bee, on 15 November 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

then there is this....  http://www.lpi.usra....mm/magazine/?05

http://www.lpi.usra....mm/magazine/?05
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Which numbers are the ones with the 'green fireballs'?

[bee]

JimOberg, on 15 November 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

That's not the first, or even the 101st, explanation that comes to mind.

How about yet another silly wild goose film emulsion chase, for the peanut gallery to thrill over.

As Hynek warned, no photo is of any evidential use without testimony of the person who took it and saw the anomaly himself.

Why should these be any exception?

What's the eyewitness testimony regarding these photos? Where can I find it?

Where did you find it?

You didn't?

How pathetic.

jeeeeezus I'm new to the image...it looks interesting, probably a bit of a mystery by the looks of it.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition....





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[Colonel Rhuairidh]

bee, on 15 November 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

jeeeeezus I'm new to the image...it looks interesting, probably a bit of a mystery by the looks of it.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition....





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[TheMacGuffin]

bee, on 15 November 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

jeeeeezus I'm new to the image...it looks interesting, probably a bit of a mystery by the looks of it.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition....
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As I said before, I'm just not going to respond to it any more. I'm done engaging in such "discussions".

[bee]

TheMacGuffin, on 15 November 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

As I said before, I'm just not going to respond to it any more. I'm done engaging in such "discussions".

I know...


edit...thanks for putting the pictures here...anyone who wants to can do their own research...

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Edited by bee, 15 November 2012 - 09:05 PM.

[JimOberg]

bee, on 15 November 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

edit...thanks for putting the pictures here...anyone who wants to can do their own research...

Interesting to see how MG does a 'post and run', refusing to defend even his OWN presented evidence, with Bee's concurrence.

I've already done my research. The pictures are zero evidence for any 'space UFOs'.

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[mcrom901]

eprints.qut.edu.au/38939/25/38939_2.pdf

[JimOberg]

mcrom901, on 15 November 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

eprints.qut.edu.au/38939/25/38939_2.pdf  

Well, you made me look. Waste of time:

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Error - DOI Not Found

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[mcrom901]

JimOberg, on 15 November 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

Well, you made me look. Waste of time:

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Error - DOI Not Found

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sorry... were you able to download the pdf?

http://rspa.royalsoc...t/467/2129/1427

[JimOberg]

mcrom901, on 15 November 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

sorry... were you able to download the pdf?

Got it, cool idea. Underscores the importance of documenting eyewitnesses' anomalous sightings with contextual information. Meteors do cause bizarre electromagnetic effects, such as the 'meteor sounds' long reported and pooh-pooheed by know-it-all scientists. Fortunately, modern instrumentation has captured enough of these 'electrop[honic sounds' and the radio noise pulse that creates them, from the meteor foreball trail.

But I don't see any connection with the supposed Apollo-7 photos of 'green fireballs'. My investigation persuades me they are at least second-generation emulsion flaws since they are not in the first-generation prints.

Edited by JimOberg, 15 November 2012 - 10:08 PM.

[mcrom901]

"Occassionally, besides sprites and jets, highly accelerated balls of plasmoids are seen ejected from charged thunderstorm cloud tops to the ionosphere. We regard these upward plasmoids as ball lightning"

http://pop.aip.org/r..._s1?bypassSSO=1

[mcrom901]

JimOberg, on 15 November 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

My investigation persuades me they are at least second-generation emulsion flaws since they are not in the first-generation prints.

oh, i was not aware of that... are they available online? i haven't looked