taniwha Posted October 17, 2014 #1 Share Posted October 17, 2014 What do you guys think? Military or Alien? Natural or hoax? In early October, Crow Tripplehorn ~ a frequent moon observer who shoots high definition videos through an 8-inch telescope ~ captured intriguing footage of a seemingly unusual object flying above the lunar surface, according to Examiner.com. On Tripplehorns YouTube page, he pledges to "never run deceptive or misleading clips on this channel. I strive to shoot the highest quality UFO and anomaly footage possible with the equipment at my disposal." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/16/ufo-flies-across-moon_n_5966592.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted October 17, 2014 #2 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Hate to rain early on this, but... here is some directly quoted text from our Mrrrr Crrrow Trrrippplehorn, who seems to be rather heavily affiliated with the ever reliable and ever credible 'BeforeItsNews' website, is a firm chemtrail believer and will be saving the world shortly, given enough funding... I quote from the man himself: You may already know me as Crrow777 on You Tube. I began filming the moon, UFO's and chemtrails (chemtrails UFO's too) in 2012 and have a mind bending body of HD footage that you can view now on You Tube or Face Book. I am known globally as a video researcher with integrity. I am also the only known person to have filmed what may well be a holographic projection covering the moon as well as a chemtrail orb (UFO) firing a gun - twice! The question I will answer with this project effect the entire human race. After all, we do not even know the truth about our moon or why chemtrails fill our skies and attract UFO's. I will be the guy who changes this!STEP 1 - Upgrade filming equipment to shoot in the invisible light spectrums (IR & UV) and increase light gathering capability of both cameras and telescopes. STEP 2 - Shoot video for up to one year. STEP 3 - Create a full length (1-2 hours) movie using new footage and existing footage to answer the following questions: QUESTION 1: Are there currently human or non-human beings on our Moon and is the moon covered with a hologram? (see video evidence on You Tube) QUESTION 2. What are chemtrails and are the UFO’s they attract human Technology? (see video evidence on You Tube) WE HAVE THE ABILITY AND TECHNOLOGY TO LEARN THE TRUTH FOR OURSELVES. YOU CAN BE A DOCUMENTED PART OF HISTORY WITH A CREDIT TO YOUR NAME IN THE COMING GAME CHANGING FILM THAT WILL BE MADE AS A RESULT OF FUNDING THIS PROJECT! What I Need All funds donated to Crrow777 will always be used to further what we know about the moon, UFO's and chemtrails. Crrow777 will always make ALL information available to the world. The following is a list of what the funding of this project will be used for: {new camera, etc..} Yep, sounds perfectly legit. No chance this guy is a hoaxer, nuh-uh, no way, nossirrrree.. I have much more but am pressed for time -be back later. In short, I'll bet $500 this guy is a full-on scammer. Genuine investigators don't tell everyone how they will not post fakery.... And if alarm bells aren't already ringing loudly, I have much more to bring back yet. In the meantime, taniwha, why not do some creative googling for a change and see what you can find... teach someone to fish, etc.. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted October 17, 2014 #3 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Take a good telescope and focus the moon in crisply and any flying bug or bird or aircraft in your line of sight will appear as a blob passing over the face of the moon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted October 17, 2014 #4 Share Posted October 17, 2014 "... is the moon covered with a hologram? (see video evidence on You Tube)" Freakin' hysterical!... and, yeah... BIG RED FLAG... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted October 17, 2014 #5 Share Posted October 17, 2014 What do you guys think? Military or Alien? Natural or hoax? The author claims some kind of professionalism but the required professionalism is missing here as the author does not provide any data about the date/time/location the object was filmed. If he had done this it would be very easy to investigate which satellite was filmed here but thats not what the authors aim is in general. Because he want to sell T-shirts and it seems that he got his equipment payed by credulous ppl who believe in such hocus-pocus. Its not math but it is true that each morning at least one idiot wakes up. ChrLz pointed the moronic facts already and I just have to add that I have learned a new word today, its the word "chemtrail-UFO" and it indicates a new level of imbecility. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted October 17, 2014 #6 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Take a good telescope and focus the moon in crisply and any flying bug or bird or aircraft in your line of sight will appear as a blob passing over the face of the moon. Watching the Moon through a telesope all object passing the optic field of the telesope within the Earth atmosphere will just be visible for <1 second so we have to judge that the object in the clip is a satellite as it is visible for approx 45 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted October 17, 2014 #7 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Watching the Moon through a telesope all object passing the optic field of the telesope within the Earth atmosphere will just be visible for <1 second so we have to judge that the object in the clip is a satellite as it is visible for approx 45 seconds. Absolutely correct. That's what I get for posting without watching the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted October 17, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Ive gotta agree, an earth satellite best befits the object. If nothing else Tripplehorn sure captures a good shot of the moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted October 17, 2014 #9 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Still a bit time challenged, and I'll happily admit I haven't yet had a really close look at the footage to see if it is something real, or simply After-Effects or similar tomfoolery.. Here's a picture I took not long ago. It was planned, in the sense that I wanted to capture a satellite, preferably an 'Iridium flare' right next to the Southern Cross, which is a bit of an iconic constellation of stars hereabouts down-under. So I just watched the Heaven's Above predictions for all the bright satellites, and lo and behold within a few weeks, one just happened to be in the right place, between the Southern Cross (Crux) and the Pointers (Alpha and Beta Centauri). I set up my camera, pointed it in the right direction, and then just as the time was approaching, set off the time exposure, and Voila, the satellite 'flared' right on time and exactly in place: Now sure, getting one in front of the Moon requires a bit more magnification and accuracy, but you wouldn't believe the numbers of satellites that go overhead at night and would be easily visible to a half-decent telescope. And using free programs like Stellarium, you can easily plug in in all the candidate satellite's ephemerides (orbital info) and predict when they will pass across the Moon from your location in advance. No, I haven't done one.. yet.. but maybe I'll get around to it one night... Here's a website of images from one guy who does this stuff all the time, although he specialises in Solar pass-bys... Go have a browse around and be amazed... Note how his stuff doesn't scream scammer - Thierry Legault didn't scam people on the Internet to help buy his equipment, he worked hard and paid for it himself. He also happily gives you ALL the information regarding the images and helps others to do the same sort of stuff - oh and he also, strangely, hasn't spotted any UFO's... why do you reckon that is? Anyway, that's what GENUINE credible websites look like... These folks are REAL astronomers, who know their stuff.. Unlike Crow (or is it Crrow?) Tripplehorn - geez, even that name should be ringin' the warning bells 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenRabbit Posted November 14, 2014 #10 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Here's a website of images from one guy who does this stuff all the time, Thanks for this link ChrLzs, Some amazing images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted July 17, 2015 #11 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Atlantis and ISS in front of the Sun is surreal looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted July 17, 2015 #12 Share Posted July 17, 2015 ChRLz you seem to be quite knowlegable on this subject so I have a question! What are you recommendations on a telescope. Best bang for your buck type of thing. I have a long standing intrest in space and would like to purchase my first to start amateur star gazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 17, 2015 #13 Share Posted July 17, 2015 ChRLz you seem to be quite knowlegable on this subject so I have a question! What are you recommendations on a telescope. Best bang for your buck type of thing. I have a long standing intrest in space and would like to purchase my first to start amateur star gazing. Needed informations: a.) yr budget? b.) for observation only? c.) for planetary photography (incl. the Moon) as well? d.) for deep sky photography as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted July 17, 2015 #14 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Needed informations: a.) yr budget? b.) for observation only? c.) for planetary photography (incl. the Moon) as well? d.) for deep sky photography as well? 1,500 dollars is my budget B ) we'll to look stars but being able to photograph would be amazing C) would be ideal Edit to add: thanks for taking the time to help. Edited July 17, 2015 by Shouldthisexist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted July 17, 2015 #15 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) 1,500 dollars is my budget B ) we'll to look stars but being able to photograph would be amazing C) would be ideal Edit to add: thanks for taking the time to help. Do you already have the camera? If yes then you can get a nice scope and mount for $1500 but I'll leave it to the more informed to recommend one. f not then consider what else you'll be using the camera for and get advice on what to get there s well. Edited July 17, 2015 by Merc14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted July 17, 2015 #16 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Do you already have the camera? If yes then you can get a nice scope and mount for $1500 but I'll leave it to the more informed to recommend one. f not then consider what else you'll be using the camera for and get advice on what to get there s well. My wife has a DSLR not sure the full specs she is the photography nut I'm just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient Zero Posted July 17, 2015 #17 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Good grief! Do these people have day jobs? Do they actually make a living from poop peddling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 17, 2015 #18 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) 1,500 dollars is my budget Ok, thats a good value for a starter kit, based on used equipment from Ebay or so, and so you need: Scope, the are 3 main options: - Refractor scope, ideally apochromatic/triplet. Pros: perfect picture, dust resistant. Cons: very expensive - Newton scope. Pros: good optical power for relative small money, short cool down times. Cons: due to the open design, dust sensitive. Impractical (as per my opinion) as the focusser and so the ocular is placed near to the intake of the scope, so on the "other side" somehow. - Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope (SCT) Pros: good optical power for relative small money, dust resistant. Cons: cool down time. So I would recommend a SCT with an opening of 6" or higher. Good manufacturers are Celestron, Maede, Vixen, and some others in this price region. Mount, 3 main options as well: - Azimutal mount: Pros: cheap. Cons: unfit for planet/Moon and deep sky photography, so no option for you. - Open fork mount Pros: very easy to handle as the scope is permanently fixed to the mount. Cons: If you have a 6" scope in a fork mount, you cannot attach a bigger scope when you want to update yr equipment later on. And, exposure times >30 seconds are not possible with such device without using a so called wedge resulting in additional costs of ca. 350-600USD. - Equatorial mount, also known as German equatorial mount Pros: perfect fit for planet/Moon and deep sky photography. Flexible, as various scopes can be attached. If (well) guided, exposure times are not limited. If you buy a scope, make sure that the scopes payload is approx the double of yr scopes weight. That gives you more stability if it in windy and you are prepared for bigger scopes as well. Also important is the scopes tripod, it must be very stabile to avoid bad shaking effects during imaging. So I would recommend a guided, (GoTo) equatorial mount. They are often equipped with GPS but this feature isnt that important because you just have to add the coordinates of yr location, and date/time as well, into the module of the scope and it knowns where you are and, after the aligment, follows the opject that you want to observe/photograph. The databases of GoTo scopes have in between 30.000 and 40.000 opjects, so you can select from the display were the scope have to go to. Very popular are the mounts from Skywatcher (EQ series) and they have a good price/quality/performance relation. Camera: various options are on hands, If you own a DSLR cam, you can attach it with an adapter to yr sope. For planetary imaging, video cams are used for and there is also freeware on the web to make pretty images from the vid. Google for RegiStax 6 for further informations. A nice and cheap cam is the Astrolumina ALccd5-II, for example. Other devices you need; A Barlow lens for optical enlargement, select for factor 2x or 2,5x max, a variable moon light filter, a Bahtinov mask to get a perfect focus and a Pole Finder (if not already with the scope) for basic aligment. And pls look for an amateur astro board in yr country. The forums there are very informative and all starter questions get answered very well. In addition, they often offer used equipment in perfect conditions. Good luck! Edited July 17, 2015 by toast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted July 17, 2015 #19 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Oh, is this the same nut again who believes the moon doesn't exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseCuster Posted July 17, 2015 #20 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Oh, is this the same nut again who believes the moon doesn't exist? Yup. It's a giant hologram.Also, the New Horizons photos of Pluto are all CGI fakes as well according to him. Edited July 17, 2015 by JesseCuster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomalocaris Posted July 17, 2015 #21 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Yay! this guy found the Selenites http://youtu.be/BNLZntSdyKE?t=9m4s Edited July 17, 2015 by Anomalocaris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted July 18, 2015 #22 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Hi, Shouldthis... My recommendations are probably not quite what you might be expecting.. 1. Get some really good binoculars first. Just 10x50's (if you are over 30), or perhaps 7x50's if younger (here's why) Binoc's are a great way to get started, and even if you have a great scope, you'll still often reach for the binocs.. 2. Astrophotography is a great but VERY challenging hobby. I'd suggest leaving it to your second or third scope, or at least until after you have followed the advice in item 4... Oh, except for the Moon. The Moon's EASY, 'coz it's so bright.... BTW, check it out tonight/tomorrow - lovely conjunction with Jupiter and Venus... 3. If you want the best bang for the buck, maybe a 8-12" Dobsonian, or a good-brand 4-5" refractor.. If you are a techhead and love gadgetry and portability and don't mind a bit of setup time, think about a small to mid-size GoTo from Meade or Celestron -once you get the hang of these they can be awesomely convenient to use... Motorised scopes will give you a bit of ability to do photography (of bright stars/planets), but the reailty is that you really need a dedicated scope/mount/drive for serious photography of nebulas and deep sky stuff. Whatever you get, make sure it has the most solid and stable mount in it's class... But finally, and most importantly - 4. DON'T BUY ANYTHING until you have joined your nearest astronomy club and attended at least two long sessions. I'm deadly serious - go talk to the folks who know the traps and pitfalls, listen to them, and most importantly, try out all their scopes and see what type you like! Added: Try here for a starting point - your budget is at the top end of the stuff shown here and they describe the issues you should think about very well.. Edited July 18, 2015 by ChrLzs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Willis Posted July 18, 2015 #23 Share Posted July 18, 2015 4. DON'T BUY ANYTHING until you have joined your nearest astronomy club and attended at least two long sessions. This is the best piece of advice for someone starting out in astronomy. The guys and gals at your local club will have all manner of equipment ranging from binoculars to hefty telescopes in purpose built observatories. Usually these people will be more than willing to show you their telescopes, cameras and so on, and answer whatever questions you may have. In my experience, someone always knows someone who has a telescope to sell because they are moving on to bigger things. You can often get a bargain, and you know the equipment will have been looked after properly. And the other great advantage of a joining a club is that you meet like-minded people and make new friends! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Krupe Posted July 18, 2015 #24 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This is the best piece of advice for someone starting out in astronomy. The guys and gals at your local club will have all manner of equipment ranging from binoculars to hefty telescopes in purpose built observatories. Usually these people will be more than willing to show you their telescopes, cameras and so on, and answer whatever questions you may have. In my experience, someone always knows someone who has a telescope to sell because they are moving on to bigger things. You can often get a bargain, and you know the equipment will have been looked after properly. And the other great advantage of a joining a club is that you meet like-minded people and make new friends! I know virtually nothing about astronomy, other than a layman's perspective, but joining a local club and getting the feel for it all is great advice. Especially if $1500 is only a starting point for telescopes and other equipment. Granted, that amount isn't the equivalent of building a mansion in Monaco, but why spend that amount just to find out you're not really into the hobby? Plus, as Derek points out, the social aspect can't be beat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 18, 2015 #25 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) , but why spend that amount just to find out you're not really into the hobby? I dont think that he is in doubt about. And, it just will take to see the rings of Saturn with the own eyes the first time to get addicted and to think about to sell grandma on Ebay just to get the money for more advanced equipment. And to add, Shouldthisexist is doing right to look for good equipment and setting a good budget even as a starter as many ppl who are interested in visual astronomy go for the garbage equipment thats offered in shopping mails for 300USD but this "equipment" is the best way to loose the interessest for astronomy forever. Edited July 18, 2015 by toast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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