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[freetoroam]

I know the religious lot say jesus is everywhere, but as for Mary??? did she even know about the Malay Kingdom then? So why after all this time would she turn up in Malaysia now?
Do ghosts travel that far to areas they never knew of or visited when alive?

[Beckys_Mom]

freetoroam, on 14 November 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

Do ghosts travel that far to areas they never knew of or visited when alive?

Don't know, I have never asked a ghost ...or seen one  lol

[freetoroam]

Beckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 11:29 PM, said:

Don't know, I have never asked a ghost ...or seen one  lol

I have never spoken to one either, whether one has spoken to me is entirely down to my phychiatrics reports.

[Beckys_Mom]

freetoroam, on 14 November 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

I have never spoken to one either, whether one has spoken to me is entirely down to my phychiatrics reports.

Ha ha ha ha  girl...that was funny

[Lava_Lady]

araxia, on 14 November 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

this does NOT look like a window to me... it looks like some painted slab...   I guess who cares when mary came to speak to us ya all, we should be thrilled in every way no  matter how she chose to make her presence known, no?

Quote from article self:

Many eyewitnesses, some of whom had been visiting the centre for several days, said the image had "grown clearer" since Saturday.
Malacca-Johor Diocesan Pastoral Institute director Rev Deacon Dr Sherman Kuek said if the immediate result actually excited deeper faith among the Catholics, it was a good thing.
"But even so, this by no means confirms the authenticity of the image as an apparition of Mary," said Rev Kuek, who holds a doctorate in theology.
He advised Catholics to always keep their attention on Jesus Christ. source: http://www.asiaone.c...112-382850.html

Yeah, I agree that it has a vaguely "Mary" shape or the commonly perceived image of the virgin Mary.

I also think that if people want to believe that it's the virgin Mary, that's up to them.

If it helps someone out in the end, then fantastic.  Good for whomever it helps.

But it's not getting clearer.  And being realistic, how does anyone know what Mary looked like or what she wore?

Maybe it's the lesser known virgin Gladys.  She was a kind ole gal but had some serious flatulence issues, thus, not many men could tolerate her presence.  But what a holy and virtuous woman she was.  Let's all praise Gladys....  Good Gladys.  Thank you.

[heatherb35601]

Maybe it is a sign from GOD he does work in mysterious ways. He may be sending a message to that country that if they dont change their ways there will be punishment. Making graven images and living not right in the ways of the Lord.

[Seeker79]

Beckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

She was a virgin at the time of Jesus's birth..  The brothers came afterwards..  I think !!

Yeah but If she apears in a window they say it's the virgin Mary. Well... Am I missing something. She is not a virgin anymore is she?

[Simbi Laveau]

araxia, on 14 November 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

whaaat? the image in the picture in the window DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A FACE, you can put anything into it, there is no halo either..... looks like a man's face... to me, look closer and stare and see what you find... mary? I don't think so:

Ummm,you are quite the rude one,aren't ya.
How about its my opinion ,and I couldnt give a rhats ass about what you think ?
Yeah that .

[Simbi Laveau]

Seeker79, on 15 November 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

Yeah but If she apears in a window they say it's the virgin Mary. Well... Am I missing something. She is not a virgin anymore is she?

Come come seeker . The whole bible thing is all so logical . Just go with it.
He was conceived by some invisible guy (isn't that what we refer to as an incubus ?) ,and she didnt have sex ,but got pregnant.
He defied all works of physics by walking on water,while some other guy parted an ocean .
He died and came back to life ,and people turned into pillars of salt ,yards yadda yadda,but pagans are the ones with weird beliefs.
Just nod vigorously and its all good.

[Beckys_Mom]

Seeker79, on 15 November 2012 - 06:13 AM, said:

Yeah but If she apears in a window they say it's the virgin Mary. Well... Am I missing something. She is not a virgin anymore is she?

The main point behind why Christians think well of her  is because she was conceived without sin.. (The immaculate conception ) to give birth to their one and only  saviour - Jesus..  Whatever she did after that is irrelevant to them

[freetoroam]

Beckys_Mom, on 15 November 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:

The main point behind why Christians think well of her  is because she was conceived without sin.. (The immaculate conception ) to give birth to their one and only  saviour - Jesus..  Whatever she did after that is irrelevant to them

When Jesus was born (alledgedly), there were no christians. In fact there was no jesus, as the name comes from the Greek, he would more have likely had a hebrew like Joshua.

[Beckys_Mom]

freetoroam, on 15 November 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

When Jesus was born (alledgedly), there were no christians. In fact there was no jesus, as the name comes from the Greek, he would more have likely had a hebrew like Joshua.

When Jesus was born...there was no Jesus  lol

If I were a Christian...I would say - Well yea there were no christians ( obviously ) .. But his mother  could go down as the first ever Christian.. She believed her son was the new messiah.. and I am sure she followed him   lol

" You ARE the messiah..........I should know, I've followed a few "   - Life Of Brian

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 15 November 2012 - 12:39 PM.

[Seeker79]

Beckys_Mom, on 15 November 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

When Jesus was born...there was no Jesus  lol

If I were a Christian...I would say - Well yea there were no christians ( obviously ) .. But his mother  could go down as the first ever Christian.. She believed her son was the new messiah.. and I am sure she followed him   lol

" You ARE the messiah..........I should know, I've followed a few "   - Life Of Brian

Hahaha at least with the Greek pantheon moms had more gods to choose from as fathers for their children when they god pregnant out of wedlock. let's see.... A god impregnated me and me and my child are special  or ... Stoned to death.... I think the choice is clear.

Edited by Seeker79, 15 November 2012 - 01:27 PM.

[freetoroam]

Haha, don`t start me on Life of Brian.

[freetoroam]

Beckys_Mom, on 15 November 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

When Jesus was born...there was no Jesus  lol

If I were a Christian...I would say - Well yea there were no christians ( obviously ) .. But his mother  could go down as the first ever Christian.. She believed her son was the new messiah.. and I am sure she followed him   lol

" You ARE the messiah..........I should know, I've followed a few "   - Life Of Brian

When I say there was no jesus, i mean the name. As for Mary being the first ever christian?  The word was not around at that time, unless Mary was actually Greek.