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[Phoenixqueen]

Too funny.

[Child of the light]

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[Grey Britain]

i just want to say no one should try to get a demon or spirit to communicate through a ouija board, a friend of my family tried it once he had no history of any mental illness but he truly believed he was possesed, his wife tried to help by calling priest at various local churches, she was told by every one of them that they could not help but would pray for her husband after about a month of believing he was possesed he took his own life i know this will not happen with everyone who uses a ouija board but dont try it

[Agent. Mulder]

Grey Britain, on 10 May 2010 - 05:38 PM, said:

i just want to say no one should try to get a demon or spirit to communicate through a ouija board, a friend of my family tried it once he had no history of any mental illness but he truly believed he was possesed, his wife tried to help by calling priest at various local churches, she was told by every one of them that they could not help but would pray for her husband after about a month of believing he was possesed he took his own life i know this will not happen with everyone who uses a ouija board but dont try it

a lot of people Believe they are possessed. and, it sure sounds like he had a case of mental illness and depression.

[Grey Britain]

Agent. Mulder, on 10 May 2010 - 05:43 PM, said:

a lot of people Believe they are possessed. and, it sure sounds like he had a case of mental illness and depression.

well your opinion is your own i truly believe that he had no mental illness

[Agent. Mulder]

Grey Britain, on 10 May 2010 - 05:45 PM, said:

well your opinion is your own i truly believe that he had no mental illness

thats fine. a lot of people wont show signs of it until later. especialy with depression. like in this case.

[bornmystic]

Sakari, on 10 May 2010 - 12:24 AM, said:

It tried to turn that way it seems....I just want to know from ANYONE that has these things happen , tell me what to try?....I can not repeat enough how many times I see the "warnings" people post..... "do not use a Ouiji board" , "do not call on Satan" , " be careful what you invite in".......Trust me , I am trying everything I can , and I just can not come up with one little spirit....And , I will continue this as long as I can.....

You've asked a million times.  I've answered you without answering your question though so here goes:

If I were you and still determined to experience the paranormal; Learn deep meditation. (At the same time, learn protecting and shielding techniques for when you meditate.)  You can read easy how to techniques for beginners online. Keep in mind that meditation is not easy and will take TIME to master.  Once you learn meditation, you can use multiple techniques to allow for spirit contact and then it can be taken further from there.

2nd, Learn lucid dreaming. (Actually I would suggest learning this parallel to learning meditation.  You can start both at the same time.  Learning to lucid dream is actually quite fun.b  You'll enjoy it.

I understand that you want a quick, physical response to your request from the other realms but if we all could get quick responses that were varifiable even by just ourselves; then those of us desiring gifts of mediumship and the like would no longer have such a desire.  We'd all be able to see ghosts and spirits and demons just because we asked for it.  I still solidly believe that your request to these entities has been answered but it will take a bit more work on your end to be able to see it.

  Ya gotta open up your 3rd eye Sakari.  That is how you see them.  You have to open up your intuition even though you may be intuitive on other things besides this.  Meditation is a guaranteed way to work towards that but it does take a lot of time and can be frustrating in the beginning.

I will go back and look at your posting because I cannot remember where up north you live but I will try to locate local meditative groups that you could become a part of.  There are many available that do not cost a dime.  They do ask for a "love offering" of maybe $10 or so but it would probably be beneficial to have someone be able to guide you through it.  If your wife is a believer, then take her with you.  If your wife meditates, tell her teach you! lol.


Try the website link below as well.  It sounds like a dating site but it's NOT.  It is an incredible community; nation wide I believe; that allows for individuals to find groups of interest in their local area.  In my community, we are overloaded with Ghost hunter groups, spiritual seekers, meditative groups, psychic classes and the list goes on.  That does not include the multitude of other groups that have nothing to do with spirituality and ghosts!  I'm sure you could find something in here to help you out with your quest.  I hope anyway.

Most of the spiritual based groups only request love offerings as apposed to an actual charge to attend.

www.meetup.com

Edited by bornmystic, 10 May 2010 - 08:41 PM.

[Sakari]

Bornmystic...

I have read your replies , and thank you...I am not sure I could meditate...I work hard days with no breaks , and have a 2 hour drive home each day ....Honestly , I will try it , but I will probably fall asleep...No offence....Im in Southern Oregon , on the coast...

I may be confusing some people in different ways....One , the main reason I started this is I see soo many posts about people having furniture move , tv turning off and on , etc. , etc...I am not trying to " feel " spirits , or " sence " them....I want a full blown (pissed off if need be ) spirit , one of the ones that makes it's presence known ( so say the claims ) by physical things.....I am not saying I will not try what has been suggested , I just want one of these "kick you butt" demons , or whatever it takes , the Devil himself would be ok also....Yes , I said it...If he is soooo bad , why won't he come?....

And for those who do not read all of the posts ...I have tried Ouiji boards numerous times , with friends , family , and strangers.....THEY DO NOT WORK>>>>PERIOD < END OF STORY !...So , you can keep giving me these warnings of bad things happening , man , I wish that were true , I can say first hand it IS NOT...

I am not worried about being possesed , If that happens , my parents are born again christians , and I am sure they will be able to get me help....But , not until after they get real good verification of the events  

For those that are responding , but not reading everything , I am going to explain for the last time....

I am a skeptic.I am asking , and inviting any spirit , evil , nice , girl , boy , demon , the devel....Any of them...To come give my house a visit , and make it a good show , really posses this house , make the movie "Poltergeist" look like flowers and rainbows...I guess , in a way , this is also calling them out isn't it?.....
For those that keep warning people about Ouiji boards , playing with spirits ( inviting them in ) , playing with things I do not understand , etc...Why the warnings , if I can not even get anything when asking with open arms?....

I can not explain this enough , and will not anymore.....People need to read from the start ( most of you following have , and do )....I am trying to " prove they do not exist"....
What would be diferent with me ,if any of these so called " demons , spirits , devils , etc." ever decide to make themselves known here , I will not just grab a video camera and scream violently....I will make contact with the right places , including Oregon University.This way , I will be getting true , scientific testing on the "phenomena"...
Problem is , I am not so sure that day will come....So , instead of warning me what I am doing is sooooo crazy , or dangerous , maybe look at this again....Is it really so dangerous now?
The big difference is , a "skeptic" is doing this ( and yes , I am trying very hard )...I think someone who believes things very easily would have a different outcome with this experience....Although , I do not think it would be "verifiable"...Mine would , if it were to ever happen....

For those who have been following , I want to share a email from my sister , she tried to tell me this in person at my Mothers house Sunday , but I did not have time...She knows how I stand on this....And this is just to show I am not surrounded by "skeptics" egging me on , and this is not to change the topic either....

"Thanks for the link!  J  I have to tell you the story of the other night though.. which is like proof that something is here.  I am pretty sure I know it’s a child, a girl in fact.  Sarah heard it many years ago when she lived here.  I have seen a ton of things happening around this.  In fact it’s why mom got blinds.. because of that loud knock on the window.. at night, no one could do that and not leave footprints.  But the other night I was outside.. standing right in front of the door.  I turned around to come back in.. the screen was locked!  It wasn’t easy to lock, dad put it on a little crooked, so you had to pull on it to make the hook go into the eye.  No way that could happen by itself.  But… everyone thinks I’m crazy.  Did I tell you about the orange crayon?"  


"proof that something is here "....See what I mean now?I hear and read this all the time !!!!!!!.....Arghhhhhhhhhhhh

Ok , asking those demons and the devil to come say hello now....Will ask while I have a smoke on the deck....I am driving my wife nuts..And really , I would like to see this work , I would not mind the "told you so's"...But , I am not holding my breath....

[bornmystic]

Sakari, on 11 May 2010 - 01:06 AM, said:

...................I may be confusing some people in different ways....One , the main reason I started this is I see soo many posts about people having furniture move , tv turning off and on , etc. , etc...I am not trying to " feel " spirits , or " sence " them....I want a full blown (pissed off if need be ) spirit , one of the ones that makes it's presence known ( so say the claims ) by physical things.....I am not saying I will not try what has been suggested , I just want one of these "kick you butt" demons , or whatever it takes , the Devil himself would be ok also....Yes , I said it...If he is soooo bad , why won't he come?....

LOL about your sister.  I'm sure that must be really frustrating that people in your own family can experience this but not you!  

I believe that in your case and in your house, you probably will not experience what you are looking for because a ghost does not already inhabit it.  Spirits you have called in may but we already have discussed why they won't show themselves to you.

You need to start searching for local sites in the area or when you can grab some travel time, travel out to the nearest known haunted location.

Go spend the night at your sisters house! lol.


I have always wanted to visit the Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louisville, Kentucky.  Look that place up!  Surely we could have some fun there!  I'm definently going before I die and when I do, I will be posting my experience bright and loud right in this forum. lol.  

You are in Oregon, right?  I'm sorry, I would go back and re-read this entire thread but do I have to??  



    

[Skittel]

mtndwellar, on 04 May 2010 - 06:51 PM, said:

LOL I did a Google search for "Puridalan's experiment"  

Hahahahahahahahaha

[Skittel]

Dude, I totally agree with you. I am a skeptic too...I used to be scared to taunt something supernatural or whatever...but now that I'm older, I really would like to see some proof. Anything, whether it be evil or good, strong or weak, violent or calm, anything would do for me as well. If you ever have any luck, you should definitely post about it.
Also, I disagree with the whole "Meditation" aspect. That is clearly more psychological than physical, which is why so many people that "see things" are called crazy. Have you ever thought about Necromancy? Bringing the dead back to life? I read up on that and, even though it sounds very difficult, it would definitely be entertaining if anything happened.

[Sergeant]

The problem with a blank check open invitation to evil or negative energy is they don't do anything on queue. The terms of contact is controlled by them without your slightest hint of knowledge. I agree with others here in that your invitation is too tasty for such energy to pass by.

Their effects in your life may be random and suttle. What happens depends on what has been attracted and its individual personality and abilities. Some work on an intellectual level through telekenesis masquerading their voice as your thoughts. Some tap your emotions by the same way invoking depression, fear, hopelessness and despair. Others can effect a persons health and make them sick or feel pain. They have multiple ways to effect your life. Some may not target you directly but the people you interact with and/or loved ones.
Some just "play" in your life until they get bored and move on but there's also some real nasty and vile things that truly get off with destroying as much of a life as possible and will even kill if it's able, or enjoy watching someone do it to themselves.

Nonbelievers will never accept that reality, I'm aware of that and I fully understand your position. However those who are familiar with the other side already know this.

I would not take for granted your invitation went unanswered. Don't expect them to shout "boo, I am here" and push over a lamp. It's not how they operate.

[Cybele]

Sergeant, on 11 May 2010 - 11:17 PM, said:

Their effects in your life may be random and suttle. What happens depends on what has been attracted and its individual personality and abilities. Some work on an intellectual level through telekenesis masquerading their voice as your thoughts. Some tap your emotions by the same way invoking depression, fear, hopelessness and despair. Others can effect a persons health and make them sick or feel pain. They have multiple ways to effect your life.

Personally, I have a problem with this idea, as I've stated before. Why is it that people assume negative emotions and physical illness can be caused by spirits? If these are the only symptoms you are experiencing then there can be no proof of the presence of a spirit at all and claims to the contrary would be based solely in belief. If there are no other manifestations, why assume that biological and mundane explanations are insufficient?

I agree with Sakari. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

[_Only]

These people claim if you attempt to contact "demons", then your life will fall apart. But then, when you do, they claim you didn't receive any horrible results because you simply don't believe.

Well, according to their ridiculous claims, you can search for your proof freely as your disbelief is your spiritual armor. Happy hunting.

[brantcoyle]

Hmm what worked for me was saying a bunch of wild stuff on the internet including names dates of politicians and businesses and the like all while psychotic. Then I started calling the resultant voices peons over and over for weeks. Finally they asked to to stop doing that saying that I went too far. I drew hell into an attack on me and spent 4 days there until I was saved by declaring the "body and blood of christ" Then the angels appeared. My guess is that everyone is damned until the true god shows up. Saved by grace is the truce between heaven and hell. Supposedly I wiped out a psion hell unit which is supposed to be large according to the angel voices. I currently have a churub guarding me according to those same voices. I have never seen the devil but have talked to him recently. He wanted to know if I have ever sinned. I said yes and he nodded. He said he was sorry for the trouble he caused me and cried. I forgave him and he bacame very angry and said he wanted me dead. He said that he owed me a debt of gratitude. He also asked if there was anything thing I wanted and I said misery to which he agreed. This is of course a long story of pissing off hell as well as heaven but I will leave it for a later time. Brant