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#256    rashore

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 11:56 PM

I'm not sure that I really clash with anyone on account of ego. I know I often don't post comments because I don't feel like playing the CMA game, and that's probably ego related. I don't feel like taking the blow to my ego having to re-explain myself, and often I have a vicious commentary about the stupidity of having to CMA, which is an unnecessary blow to others ego.
I know I have an ego about trying to find and put up good information. I also have an ego about stating I'm wrong and apologizing for it.


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:05 AM

I think a more weighted "like" list would be to show the posts made near-to-after the push through of the like function. I know users like joc already had a huge post count before the update rolled through.

I definitely think this list served its purpose Prof T. As far as likes go, I pretty much value them as I outlined before. But remember the most important thing is getting your information out there to be read and encourage some thought. It doesn't take much for someone to like your post, but get them really thinking and that's the real reward, a reward for everyone.


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:10 AM

View PostOrcseeker, on 28 January 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

I think a more weighted "like" list would be to show the posts made near-to-after the push through of the like function. I know users like joc already had a huge post count before the update rolled through.

I definitely think this list served its purpose Prof T. As far as likes go, I pretty much value them as I outlined before. But remember the most important thing is getting your information out there to be read and encourage some thought. It doesn't take much for someone to like your post, but get them really thinking and that's the real reward, a reward for everyone.
I think the fact that a Like List has made its way into and has begun to 'define' this thread is very interesting in and of itself.
Here is what I think about the Like list:  I Like posts that I agree with.  Also, I tend to Like posts that were made by people I like.  I don't Like everything...but if someone Liked something I posted, I will probably Like what they posted back.  So, a good bit of my Like button activity is just being nice.  I find that (I mean really it's just human nature) the nicer you are to people, the more people tend to be nicer back to you.

Case in point...I had a customer once who was an elderly Jewish lady...hateful and beechy as the day is long.  Always complaining, always very picky and very condesending about everyone and everything.  I decided one day that I was going to listen to  this lady.  I mean really listen to her and find out exactly what her grief was all about and make her LOVE me.   And, that is exactly what happened.  I listened, I worked really hard to find a solution and did.  She didn't love me though because I found a solution...she loved me because after that, I continued to listen to her and talk to her.   I think all she really wanted was to know that someone actually gave a damn.

Now, was the above story told to show everyone what a great guy I am (Ego) or was it to illustrate a point. (Also Ego)  It (Ego) is just really a hard thing to step away from isn't it?
So, the entire Like thing as an indicator of popularity (Ego) is not very viable at all.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:33 AM

admittedly sometimes i just press the like button cause im bored and i like to press it >.>

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:10 AM

View Postjoc, on 28 January 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:

I think the fact that a Like List has made its way into and has begun to 'define' this thread is very interesting in and of itself.
Here is what I think about the Like list: I Like posts that I agree with. Also, I tend to Like posts that were made by people I like. I don't Like everything...but if someone Liked something I posted, I will probably Like what they posted back. So, a good bit of my Like button activity is just being nice. I find that (I mean really it's just human nature) the nicer you are to people, the more people tend to be nicer back to you.

Case in point...I had a customer once who was an elderly Jewish lady...hateful and beechy as the day is long. Always complaining, always very picky and very condesending about everyone and everything. I decided one day that I was going to listen to this lady. I mean really listen to her and find out exactly what her grief was all about and make her LOVE me. And, that is exactly what happened. I listened, I worked really hard to find a solution and did. She didn't love me though because I found a solution...she loved me because after that, I continued to listen to her and talk to her. I think all she really wanted was to know that someone actually gave a damn.

Now, was the above story told to show everyone what a great guy I am (Ego) or was it to illustrate a point. (Also Ego) It (Ego) is just really a hard thing to step away from isn't it?
So, the entire Like thing as an indicator of popularity (Ego) is not very viable at all.

We're getting into the harder realms of subtle ego here imo.. This is something I'm only aware of at a surface level
Will give this challenge a go though..  
Was it to tell everyone what a great guy you are?  Nope.. No ego detected there..
Was it to illistrate a point.. Yes.. Subtle ego detected there..
The subtle ego imo has crept in as at a point somewhere between realising the woman only wanted to be shown that someone actually gave a damn & the conscious effort it took to listen and find a solution to her needs.. That is where your ego was inflated, not by your direct actions in making her love you, but by the realisation that with a bit of effort you could do that.. This subltle ego is a pride in the ability to make people like you!

Am I right?? (will take a lot of deep thought to find it)


Edited to add: Yep, that's how I use the like button too.. & sometimes, I like a post if I just plain old like it now, or even if I don't like it but appreciate the thought & effort someone had made in writing it.

Edited by Professor T, 28 January 2013 - 02:13 AM.


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:12 AM

View Postjoc, on 28 January 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:


I think the fact that a Like List has made its way into and has begun to 'define' this thread is very interesting in and of itself.
Here is what I think about the Like list:  I Like posts that I agree with.  Also, I tend to Like posts that were made by people I like.  I don't Like everything...but if someone Liked something I posted, I will probably Like what they posted back.  So, a good bit of my Like button activity is just being nice.  I find that (I mean really it's just human nature) the nicer you are to people, the more people tend to be nicer back to you.

Case in point...I had a customer once who was an elderly Jewish lady...hateful and beechy as the day is long.  Always complaining, always very picky and very condesending about everyone and everything.  I decided one day that I was going to listen to  this lady.  I mean really listen to her and find out exactly what her grief was all about and make her LOVE me.   And, that is exactly what happened.  I listened, I worked really hard to find a solution and did.  She didn't love me though because I found a solution...she loved me because after that, I continued to listen to her and talk to her.   I think all she really wanted was to know that someone actually gave a damn.

Now, was the above story told to show everyone what a great guy I am (Ego) or was it to illustrate a point. (Also Ego)  It (Ego) is just really a hard thing to step away from isn't it?
So, the entire Like thing as an indicator of popularity (Ego) is not very viable at all.

Great anecdote joc. I usually think people who act such a way don't do so because that's how they are defined and don't particularly enjoy it either.

Well as Bhuddists say a good deed is not such if you go around telling everyone as it becomes a deed you simply did for yourself and not one out of selflessness.

I do see people who do that and you can tell who is trying to illustrate a point and those who are simply doing it as an attempt to receive positive recognition from others. But I do see the point you are addressing here and quite an interesting point at that.


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:20 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 28 January 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

We're getting into the harder realms of subtle ego here imo.. This is something I'm only aware of at a surface level
Will give this challenge a go though..  

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Was it to tell everyone what a great guy you are?  Nope.. No ego detected there..
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Was it to illistrate a point.. Yes.. Subtle ego detected there..
Correct

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The subtle ego imo has crept in as at a point somewhere between realising the woman only wanted to be shown that someone actually gave a damn & the conscious effort it took to listen and find a solution to her needs.. That is where your ego was inflated, not by your direct actions in making her love you, but by the realisation that with a bit of effort you could do that.. This subltle ego is a pride in the ability to make people like you!
Very good Doctor!

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Am I right?? (will take a lot of deep thought to find it)
You are very right about what you deduced...however; the subtle ego I was referring to was in making the point at all.  You are right, I wasn't telling the story to make people think I'm a swell guy...I was telling the story to make a point about how being nice to people is a virtue in and of its own...but then, the ego of that is in my ego thinking first of all, that it has a point to be made, and secondly that it is important to make it.

Edited by joc, 28 January 2013 - 02:20 AM.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:36 AM

View Postjoc, on 28 January 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

Correct

Correct

Very good Doctor!

Wooo whoo!
*does little ego dance*

View Postjoc, on 28 January 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

You are very right about what you deduced...however; the subtle ego I was referring to was in making the point at all. You are right, I wasn't telling the story to make people think I'm a swell guy...I was telling the story to make a point about how being nice to people is a virtue in and of its own...but then, the ego of that is in my ego thinking first of all, that it has a point to be made, and secondly that it is important to make it.
Yeah, it's the whole modesty or humbleness senaro.. You can be humble or modest, but as soon as you mention that you develop yourself a new subtle ego.. And therein lays something of a paradox, because in order to promote virtues one must speak of them, but in doing so one destroys the virtue by making it egotistic..

There must be more to this and a way around this paradox other than a vow of silence.. But I can't put my finger on it..


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:49 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 28 January 2013 - 02:36 AM, said:

Wooo whoo!
*does little ego dance*


Yeah, it's the whole modesty or humbleness senaro.. You can be humble or modest, but as soon as you mention that you develop yourself a new subtle ego.. And therein lays something of a paradox, because in order to promote virtues one must speak of them, but in doing so one destroys the virtue by making it egotistic..

There must be more to this and a way around this paradox other than a vow of silence.. But I can't put my finger on it..
I think it is called....death! :gun:

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

View Postjoc, on 27 January 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Actually that is a pretty good analogy of the current situation involving the last election.

This is perfect example.
You didnt click "like." For some reason. I suspect because of my low social skills. If you knew me better, if you noticed at me some similar trait as you have, if you knew from previous conversation my views (and you like them)....in the end if we are friendly I would get that like.

Its all about social skills.

You like post yet you didnt click. See my point?

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:37 PM

View PostProfessor T, on 27 January 2013 - 11:47 PM, said:

I can safely say that B Randomly and myself, 2,d & 3rd on the list, are far from sceptics..


I wasnt sure about sceptic part.
But Im sure that you and BRandomly have great social skills.

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JFK: "And we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy..."

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 01:41 PM

View Postthe L, on 28 January 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

This is perfect example.
You didnt click "like." For some reason. I suspect because of my low social skills. If you knew me better, if you noticed at me some similar trait as you have, if you knew from previous conversation my views (and you like them)....in the end if we are friendly I would get that like.

Its all about social skills.

You like post yet you didnt click. See my point?
I didn't Like your post because of MY low social skills not yours.  I forgot.  So, I just went and clicked Like on everything you posted in the last few pages...didn't even read any...just clicked because I'm being nice and don't want to bruise your fragile Ego. :passifier:
See my point?

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

View Postjoc, on 28 January 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

I didn't Like your post because of MY low social skills not yours.  I forgot.  So, I just went and clicked Like on everything you posted in the last few pages...didn't even read any...just clicked because I'm being nice and don't want to bruise your fragile Ego. :passifier:
See my point?

My fragile Ego. :blink: :lol: You miss the point.
You didnt need to do that.
And (hopefully or sadly?) I dont see your point.
No offence.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:21 PM

View Postthe L, on 28 January 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

I wasnt sure about sceptic part.
But Im sure that you and BRandomly have great social skills.

I can't speak for B, but my online social skills are a lot better than my IRL social skills, and I'm guessing in most cases everyone is like that..

Besides, social skills, how we fit into society, and what level of society we associate with has a lot to do with Ego..

You like alternative rock (Great taste in music btw) and you associate yourself with fringe culture.. This is where your ego is most confortable, these levels of society is where your ego lingers.. You are quite capable of sitting at other levels of soceity, not just fringe or alternative.. The thing that is stoping you imo is Ego.


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:11 PM

View PostProfessor T, on 28 January 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

I can't speak for B, but my online social skills are a lot better than my IRL social skills, and I'm guessing in most cases everyone is like that..

Besides, social skills, how we fit into society, and what level of society we associate with has a lot to do with Ego..

You like alternative rock (Great taste in music btw) and you associate yourself with fringe culture.. This is where your ego is most confortable, these levels of society is where your ego lingers.. You are quite capable of sitting at other levels of soceity, not just fringe or alternative.. The thing that is stoping you imo is Ego.

I take a different perspective: think it is far easier to socialize in real life because there are other aspects to take into account-- e.g. body language-- the personal experience of knowing someone from spending quality time with them. I think online can be a great springboard for starting relationships or opening a door to one, but it can only be surface (for me) without spending time with a person/ or talking to them.







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