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#2701    seeder

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:00 AM

View Postkampz, on 23 December 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

Oh thanks. Are the dimensions or whatever they talked about on the show true? I was only partially paying attention to the show. I'll check it out. It's just another "lucky" piece of land in my opinion.

I didnt watch the show or at least not in its entirety.... I especially would not have chosen to watch it unless I was trying to decipher a point someone made - based exclusively on the show......I'm a reading man, and will zoom thru texts quicker than sensationalized shows get to their points... but pls do read from 149 for about 2 pages....

or start here to save yourself going any further:  

http://en.wikipedia....osnian_pyramids

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:03 AM

View PostLRW, on 23 December 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

History research especially academic research of history is all guessing.
Qualified (and by this I mean "backed up by evidence that people themselves can examine") guessing, yes.


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The atlantic ocean is huge note the etymology of atlantis with atlantic, have you explored every inch of the atlantic ocean?
Personally?
No.
But people who have studied this better then me have said "there's little chance of Atlantis being in the Atlantic", however Phil Coppens suggests that what Plato called Atlantis was actually on mainland Europe, which is a theory I'm intrigued by. The prevailing theory I do subscribe to is that Plato did a "all names have been changed to protect the innocent" on his Critias.

View PostMyles, on 23 December 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

That's bullcrap.   Ther are many expert who believe it was a leprechaun fart.
Give me a minute and I'll find a vidoe that proves it.
You sir are a fool and a moral coward.
You FEAR, yes I say FEAR the truth of Ping-Pong.

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:03 AM

View PostLRW, on 23 December 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

Thats why you should be more open minded and less dismissive of non mainstream conformist theories.

You have no imagination, people with no imagination are pretty boring, all great inventors had vivid imaginations.
So you are looking for fun and crazy things. How do you feel about the growing leprechaun fart theory?


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:05 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 23 December 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

As it's my job to fire that imagination in children, I have to agree.
However it's also my job to ensure that children don't accept any old rubbish as facts, I have to say "there's a fork in the road between imagination and fantasy", and fantasy is where reality is well and truly left behind.

So plato's tales about atlantis is rubbish? yet herodotus and his tales about the pyramid are credible?

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:06 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 23 December 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

The point many of us are making is that the points should be disputed on the show itself.
Without that, they are presenting a massively biased article - that in and of itself isn't unusual, but it's on the bloody History channel, so it should at least pretend to be scientific and subject it's claims to analysis or at the very least offer an alternative theory.
Hell, picking one idea - the perfect walls of PP for example - and spending an entire episode exploring the possibilities of their construction, maybe using our best guess at contemporaneous techniques, modern techniques etc etc would make for fascinating viewing IMO.

I agree.    It's horrible how it is presented on the history channel.   My 10 year old daughter watched it and thought it was spouting facts.    Apparently there are several 10 year old who believe in the ridiculous.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:08 AM

View PostLRW, on 23 December 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

So plato's tales about atlantis is rubbish? yet herodotus and his tales about the pyramid are credible?

Not rubbish, just not what they appear.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:08 AM

View PostLRW, on 23 December 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

Thats why you should be more open minded and less dismissive of non mainstream conformist theories.


non mainstream conformist theories?

non mainstream conformist theories????????

eh?

more open minded to theories?

quote: 1. Definitions

Conformity = A change in behavior or belief as a result of real or imagined group pressure.

sorry sweety I dont suffer from group pressure, my posts have indicated that...


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Edited by seeder, 23 December 2012 - 01:19 AM.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:08 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 23 December 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

Qualified (and by this I mean "backed up by evidence that people themselves can examine") guessing, yes.

They are biased, many museums won't display certain artifacts that do not fit in with mainstream model of history.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:09 AM

View PostMyles, on 23 December 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

That's bullcrap.   Ther are many expert who believe it was a leprechaun fart.
Give me a minute and I'll find a vidoe that proves it.

:w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: ....hahaha, its silly-o-clock time again!!!  lovin it !!

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:14 AM

View PostLRW, on 23 December 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:

They are biased, many museums won't display certain artifacts that do not fit in with mainstream model of history.

thats a bold statement indeed. so which museums dont do that, and what is it they wont show?

Edited by seeder, 23 December 2012 - 01:14 AM.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:14 AM

View PostLRW, on 23 December 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:

They are biased, many museums won't display certain artifacts that do not fit in with mainstream model of history.

There is no proof of that.    Museums display religious items.  There is not a museum czar who rules the worlds museums.  You are making frivolous assumptions made up to fit your story.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:16 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 23 December 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

As much as I'd like to agree with you, because I'd really like something like Atlantis to have existed, there are suggestions that are too far out, that are too unsupported by proven history and/or understood physics to be acceptable as anything other then fodder for science fiction stories.

I like Mysteries of the Museum because in my travels I saw there are many out of place artifacts and bones just thrown into drawers because they don't fit in with the established theories for particular digs!  Usually I learned about most facinating relics  from asking curators about items in storage than the one in the exhibits. We need shows  that just throw out some of those kind of things and doesn't really speculate on the why or how but just says here's a really weird item that we found at the dig.

Mr Hats  if there were an "Atlantis"  it would be very hard to find! If you ever watched "Life after People" show, you know how little could be expected to survive the destruction of a really ancient civilization no matter how advanced.  Speculations for science fiction or looking for clues to  further evidence is great,  but I really hate these so called shows that spew out  stuff as fact and even the mysterious stuff is then discredited more than it should be.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:17 AM

View PostMyles, on 23 December 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

There is no proof of that. Museums display religious items.  There is not a museum czar who rules the worlds museums.  You are making frivolous assumptions made up to fit your story.

lol

Because there is no proof, then therefore its impossible?


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:20 AM

View PostWhite Unicorn, on 23 December 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

I like Mysteries of the Museum because in my travels I saw there are many out of place artifacts and bones just thrown into drawers because they don't fit in with the established theories for particular digs!

They don't want their history model being exposed for the utter garbage that it is, the AD/BC and BCE/CE chronology they use is alarming to say they least, their whole model is based around conjecture.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 01:20 AM

View PostWhite Unicorn, on 23 December 2012 - 01:16 AM, said:

I like Mysteries of the Museum because in my travels I saw there are many out of place artifacts and bones just thrown into drawers because they don't fit in with the established theories for particular digs!  Usually I learned about most facinating relics  from asking curators about items in storage than the one in the exhibits. We need shows  that just throw out some of those kind of things and doesn't really speculate on the why or how but just says here's a really weird item that we found at the dig.

Mr Hats  if there were an "Atlantis"  it would be very hard to find! If you ever watched "Life after People" show, you know how little could be expected to survive the destruction of a really ancient civilization no matter how advanced.  Speculations for science fiction or looking for clues to  further evidence is great,  but I really hate these so called shows that spew out  stuff as fact and even the mysterious stuff is then discredited more than it should be.
It is nice to see a post that is reasonable.   I don't think there are many on here who are not interested in or not open to the possibility of.   It's the way AA presents it's stuff as fact.   That is wrong and it harms the minds of young one's who may someday be real experts in a particular field.