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[Saru]

Scientists have developed a new nanomaterial that appears to be highly effective at stopping bullets.

Times of India said:

Researchers have designed a new paperthin bullet-proof super material which can self-assemble into alternating glassy and rubbery layers.

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[Chooky88]

Ok. But that means the material will penetrate you. There still needs to be a certain thickness to dissipate the energy of the impact. Even non penetrating wounds can destroy vital organs or break bones. It's a start though as you can use it as an external layer over a lighter material. But we are a long way from bulletproof underpants.

Edited by Chooky88, 18 November 2012 - 01:50 PM.

[freetoroam]

What a world we live in! instead of finding a way of getting rid of ammunition, scientists are spending time and money on inventing things to protect us more...there is only one protection from guns, and thats to abolish them completely.
For crying out loud!! is this what our scientists have been asked to invent now? I`d have though something to protect humans from natural catastrophies and diseases would have been the first thing on the list.

[terrible]

If it stops a bullet, that means a lighter weight plate to spread the impact.  As long as we have greed there will be countries and leaders who make a fortune from weapons. If weapon production stopped today , our country would go into a recession that would destroy our economy. That is why each congressman and senator is so short sighted. If they kill a project in their state , jobs go and their jobs as well and lets face it , they have some of the most enviable jobs. They gets inside information to become richer, go to all the fancy parties and get their rears kissed by many brown noses. Intellect leaders, not greedy leaders is what we need.

[terrible]

terrible, on 18 November 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

If it stops a bullet, that means a lighter weight plate to spread the impact.  As long as we have greed there will be countries and leaders who make a fortune from weapons. If weapon production stopped today , our country would go into a recession that would destroy our economy. That is why each congressman and senator is so short sighted. If they kill a project in their state , jobs go and their jobs as well and lets face it , they have some of the most enviable jobs. They gets inside information to become richer, go to all the fancy parties and get their rears kissed by many brown noses. Intellect leaders, not greedy leaders is what we need.

[CuriousGreek]

freetoroam, on 18 November 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

What a world we live in! instead of finding a way of getting rid of ammunition, scientists are spending time and money on inventing things to protect us more...there is only one protection from guns, and thats to abolish them completely.
For crying out loud!! is this what our scientists have been asked to invent now? I`d have though something to protect humans from natural catastrophies and diseases would have been the first thing on the list.

Unfortunately, ''scientists'' are not using scientific research and knowledge as well as technology in favour of people...too bad...

[freetoroam]

terrible, on 18 November 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

If it stops a bullet, that means a lighter weight plate to spread the impact.  As long as we have greed there will be countries and leaders who make a fortune from weapons. If weapon production stopped today , our country would go into a recession that would destroy our economy. That is why each congressman and senator is so short sighted. If they kill a project in their state , jobs go and their jobs as well and lets face it , they have some of the most enviable jobs. They gets inside information to become richer, go to all the fancy parties and get their rears kissed by many brown noses. Intellect leaders, not greedy leaders is what we need.

its not just greedy leaders, although they do make up a large percentage, what about all the gangs and smugglers and wannabe hardmen, they are not running our countries, albeit probably part of  their neighbourhood.
As for jobs going, lots of jobs would go if the drug trade stopped tomorrow, whats the difference, they both kill people, yet one has a licence, is that right? Nooo.

[freetoroam]

CuriousGreek, on 18 November 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Unfortunately, ''scientists'' are not using scientific research and knowledge as well as technology in favour of people...too bad...

thats because we can not pay them as much as the world leaders do.

[Aus Der Box Skeptisch]

freetoroam, on 18 November 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

What a world we live in! instead of finding a way of getting rid of ammunition, scientists are spending time and money on inventing things to protect us more...there is only one protection from guns, and thats to abolish them completely.
For crying out loud!! is this what our scientists have been asked to invent now? I`d have though something to protect humans from natural catastrophies and diseases would have been the first thing on the list.

Your being rediculous. Hell I'm as much a new age hippie as the next Guy but at least I can see how impossible it is to hope people only throw flowers at each other. What these scientists are doing makes sense and I am supportive of anything that helps make living in the real world safer. A gun is a tool. Bullets are tools. Misuse is the users fault not the inanimate objects. Ban matches and axes too? Heck we banned bombs and people still blow things up. Go figure. Backwards logic is all. Maybe better education may help more. Teach people how to properly use a tool and reap the rewards.

freetoroam, on 18 November 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

What a world we live in! instead of finding a way of getting rid of ammunition, scientists are spending time and money on inventing things to protect us more...there is only one protection from guns, and thats to abolish them completely.
For crying out loud!! is this what our scientists have been asked to invent now? I`d have though something to protect humans from natural catastrophies and diseases would have been the first thing on the list.

Your being rediculous. Hell I'm as much a new age hippie as the next Guy but at least I can see how impossible it is to hope people only throw flowers at each other. What these scientists are doing makes sense and I am supportive of anything that helps make living in the real world safer. A gun is a tool. Bullets are tools. Misuse is the users fault not the inanimate objects. Ban matches and axes too? Heck we banned bombs and people still blow things up. Go figure. Backwards logic is all. Maybe better education may help more. Teach people how to properly use a tool and reap the rewards.

[freetoroam]

One post was enough!
I am not a new age hippy, i am someone who does not like guns or any other manmade killing machine in the name of gaining power.

"Teach people how to properly use a tool and reap the rewards" explain how you would teach a drug peddling gang member to use a gun which could enrich our lives?

You are completely missing the point (no surprise there), these are scientists who should be finding ways of curing people of diseases, but they are getting paid by those who benefit out of the gun and ammunition trade, and you are trying to justify it to me???!!!
No doubt you are the kind that thinks the only way to deal with a problem is to blast a hole in it.

[sepulchrave]

As a scientist myself, I would appreciate it if people would stop lumping all scientists into the same category.

• Some scientists work on defence projects. Some don't.
  
• Many defence projects are beneficial to humanity, and do not involve making weapons. (A big chunk of the internet and development of personal computers was defence funded, for example.)
  
• I get really annoyed when people say things like ``scientists shouldn't be doing <blank>, they should be studying <blank>.'' Different research areas require entirely different skill sets. The scientists in question study materials. They would be no better at curing diseases than you or I would be.

Secondly, the story is about a nanothin material that can stop a bullet. The story is about this because:

• ``bullet stopping'' is a good headline, and
  
• the lab had a grant from the Pentagon.

But seriously, stopping bullets is the only thing you can think of doing with this? How about a shatter-proof coating for windows (or glassware, for that matter)? How about lining the inner-tubes of tires with this to make them more puncture-resistant?

[Aus Der Box Skeptisch]

Freetoroam I'm sorry you got upset. Peace my friend.

Edited by Aus Der Box Skeptisch, 18 November 2012 - 05:56 PM.

[Purifier]

freetoroam, on 18 November 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

What a world we live in! instead of finding a way of getting rid of ammunition, scientists are spending time and money on inventing things to protect us more...there is only one protection from guns, and thats to abolish them completely.
For crying out loud!! is this what our scientists have been asked to invent now? I`d have though something to protect humans from natural catastrophies and diseases would have been the first thing on the list.

Yeah, for a good reason. Because they probably don't see the total ban on all guns, all over the world, anytime soon. And I think your distorting facts here about scientists, not all scientists are specifically working on this particular one thing. I mean...sterotype much?

[avs76]

I am currently serving in Afghanistan and I would welcome thinner, lighter body armour that would still provide protection against small arms ammunition and shrapnel. Think of law enforcement and similar occupations that would also benefit from this technology.

[freetoroam]

Purifier, on 18 November 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Yeah, for a good reason. Because they probably don't see the total ban on all guns, all over the world, anytime soon. And I think your distorting facts here about scientists, not all scientists are specifically working on this particular one thing. I mean...sterotype much?

4COL, I know that all scientists are not working on this, its a shame that some can be bought so easily.
The people who have the power to ban the guns or atleast get a lot of them off the streets and stop the mass weapondry being used in wars, are the same people paying these scientists.
my point is they have the power to do something about the ammonition trade, but they will not because they make too much money out of it, is that right? I don`t think
so!
What benefit does the normal joe get out of this? death and wreaked lives, while the elite are getting rich, do you honestly think thats justifiable? Do you think the normal joe will get the benefit of this new material? no! it will be given to soldiers and politicians, we will not be protected.
So all those who think its a good idea, its NOT FOR YOUR BENEFIT, unless you are one of the world leaders.