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#7186    Abramelin

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:02 AM

Menno, here's an example of what you will find when you search for "1806" in this thread (and don't forget to click on the link in that old post):



View PostAbramelin, on 18 June 2011 - 12:54 PM, said:

Hahaha, you are right.

But I don't think this 'prophecy' has anything to do with the paranormal.

I consider it to be a clue, a hint.

You'd expect anyone reading that line, about what would happen 4000 years after the submergence of Aldland, would do a little calculating, and wonder what did happen 1806 AD.

Well, I did, and ended up with the French Revolution (and the OLB ideas of a future ideal society, similar to the ideas of the French Revolution), Louis Napoleon as King of Holland (1806), Halbertsma's contact with Napoleon's nephew in England (and H's translation into Frisian of the Gospel according to Matthew on request of this nephew), Halbertsma's year of birth being the start of the FR, the Linden trees that were planted to commemorate the FR (in relation to the many mentionings of Linda-this and Linda-that in the OLB), and even the idea to install some kind of 'Supreme Being' by these French revolutionaries on a date in june that was symbolized by the Linden tree, and so on.

( Read my post 5492, http://www.unexplain...=184645&st=5490 )

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Cult of the Supreme Being

The primary principles of the Cult of the Supreme Being were a belief in the existence of a god and the immortality of the human soul.[7] Though not inconsistent with Christian doctrine, these beliefs were put to the service of Robespierre's fuller meaning, which was of a type of civic-minded, public virtue he attributed to the Greeks and Romans:[8] this type of Virtue could only be attained through active fidelity to liberty and democracy.[9] Belief in a living god and a higher moral code, he said, were "constant reminders of justice" and thus essential to a republican society.


http://en.wikipedia....e_Supreme_Being


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:48 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 03 November 2011 - 09:43 AM, said:

"to make it fit without reason"

I had very good reasons.

It indeed doesn't have an -m- in it, but 'mwuah', who cares? lol

Can you tell me why in very ancient history north Africa was called "Libya", but only the OLB calls it "Lydia"?

I can: they (the creators of the OLB) simply mirrored the -b-.

Same thing with the -m- in Massilia: mirror it, and voila: "Wassilia".

Oh well, must be another joke to make the readers of the OLB go out on a wild goose chase.

And I'd like to add what Knul suggested yesterday:

"I guess you combine Wexalia with OLB wixla = change (exchange trade - ruilhandel) ?"

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Missellia, The island that became Marseilles. It was mistakenly sold to the Golen of Sidon hence the name "miss sale". It eventually became the first city of the Gaul in southern France.

http://earth-history...ra-glossary.htm

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wix-l-ia 4, afries., sw. V. (2): nhd. wechseln, tauschen; ne. exchange (V.); ÜG.: lat.
permðtõre L 2; Vw.: s. bi-*, for-*; Hw.: vgl. an. vÆxla, ae. wÆxlan, as. wehslon*,
ahd. wehsalæn*; Q.: B, E, L 2; E.: germ. *wehsljan, sw. V., wechseln; s. idg. *øeik-
(4), *øeig-, V., Sb., biegen, winden, sich wenden, weichen (V.) (2), Wechsel,
Abwechslung, Pokorny 1130; W.: nfries. wigseljen, V., wechseln, tauschen; W.:
saterl. wicselja, V., wechseln, tauschen; L.: Hh 132b, Rh 1157a


http://www.koeblerge...ch/afries-W.pdf


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:01 AM

LOL, omg....


The meaning of Sydney
Origin: English

Meaning: From St. Denis.


Origin: English

Meaning: Variant of Sidney: Wide Island: south of the water; from Sidon.


Origin: French

Meaning: Follower of Saint Denys. From St. Denis.


Origin: French

Meaning: Variant of Sidney: From Saint-Denis (place name). This name has recently become popular for girls as well as boys.


Origin: Greek

Meaning: From Sidon.


http://www.andythena...ings/Sydney.htm


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Saint Denis is the patron of France and Headaches.


http://www.catholic-...saint-denis.htm


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:50 AM

(Terschelling) Wexalia = Wixla or 'exchange'?

In Dutch:
Terschelling bleef Hollands tot 1806, toen de Bataafse Republiek instortte en Nederland werd ingelijfd door het Napoleontische rijk. Het werd een koninkrijk onder koning Lodewijk Napoleon, de broer van Bonaparte, die besloot het eiland om praktische redenen bij de provincie Friesland in te delen. Een maatregel die in 1814, na de val van Napoleon, alweer ongedaan werd gemaakt. Het Voorlopig Bestuur dat na het vertrek van de Fransen werd gevormd kende Terschelling weer toe aan de provincie Noord-Holland.

In English:
Terschelling remained part of the province of Holland until 1806, when the Batavian Republic collapsed and the Netherlands was annexed by the Napoleonic Empire. It became a kingdom under King Louis Napoleon,  Bonaparte's brother, who decided to assign the island for practical reasons to the province of Friesland. A measure  which already became uninstalled in 1814, after the fall of Napoleon. The Provisional Goverment that came into being after the departure of the French assigned Terschelling back to the province of North Holland again
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http://islas.ruudbijlsma.nl/tsl_nl.htm

Only after the French occupation at the start of the 19th century [ = 1806] was Terschelling united as one entity again.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Terschelling

The last appearance of the name Wexalia is in a treaty between Folkerus Reijner Popma, then ruler of Terschelling, with king Edward IV of England in 1482.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Terschelling

("Folkerus"??? He would be called "Folkert" or "Fokke" in Frisian. You know, the "Phocaea" / "Fokaia" I was looking for, heh)

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 11:56 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 03 November 2011 - 09:43 AM, said:

"to make it fit without reason"

I had very good reasons.

It indeed doesn't have an -m- in it, but 'mwuah', who cares? lol

Can you tell me why in very ancient history north Africa was called "Libya", but only the OLB calls it "Lydia"?

I can: they (the creators of the OLB) simply mirrored the -b-.

Same thing with the -m- in Massilia: mirror it, and voila: "Wassilia".

Oh well, must be another joke to make the readers of the OLB go out on a wild goose chase.
No, I don't think so...

liberal (adj.)

late 14c., from O.Fr. liberal "befitting free men, noble, generous," from L. liberalis "noble, generous," lit. "pertaining to a free man," from liber "free," from PIE base *leudheros (cf. Gk. eleutheros "free"), probably originally "belonging to the people" (though the precise semantic development is obscure), from *leudho- "people" (cf. O.C.S. ljudu, Lith. liaudis, O.E. leod, Ger. Leute "nation, people").

Your Liudgert.

gerti was also geria - devourer/drinker - I don't know if this might have some bearing on the name as well.

This was Lyda. Maybe even Lord in some form, the free man, the Lord, of the people, his slaves basically.

Libya - freemen - from 'Lyda's people' (PIE? leud/ho) free/people - also seen in Liud/Ljudu - German leute - Ju Leute maybe

http://www.etymonlin...owed_in_frame=0

Here's one: Maybe King Arthur is atha too - the head of his Round Table.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:11 PM

Yeah, or simply mirror a letter, and you get "Lydia".

Or Wassilia.

No one ever called Libya "Lydia", only the OLB.

No one ever suggested Massilia had anything to do with an exchange or a wrong sale, but the old name of Terschelling hints at this 'sale' or exchange.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:14 PM

Wat bij de omwerking tot kroniek precies de rolverdeling tussen Verwijs
en HaverSchmidt is geweest, kan vooralsnog niet precies worden vastgesteld.
Dat ze in gezamenlijk overleg hebben gewerkt, bewijst onder andere het
hierboven genoemde uit de familie Over de Linden gelekte getuigenis. Daarin
wordt het tafereel geschetst van Cornelis over de Linden die overdag stukken
afschreef en die ’s avonds samen met twee geleerde doktoren het geschrevene
nalas en dan, zo herinnerde zich Cornelis’ kleinzoon, bulderden de drie mannen
van het lachen: ‘Ze zullen het nooit geloven’.


http://argyf.fryske-...eiding_9-54.pdf

As for what the exact roles for Verwijs and Haverschmidt in the reorganization to a chronicle have been, has yet to be determined. That they have worked in mutual consultation proves, among other things, the above mentioned leaked testimony from the Over de Linden family.
In it a scene is sketched about Cornelis Over de Linden who finished some pieces of the text during daytime, and who during the evening, together with two learned doctors, re-read the writing and then, as recalled by Cornelis' grandson, the three men roared with laughter: "They'll never believe it '.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:26 PM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 03 November 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:

No, I don't think so...

liberal (adj.)

late 14c., from O.Fr. liberal "befitting free men, noble, generous," from L. liberalis "noble, generous," lit. "pertaining to a free man," from liber "free," from PIE base *leudheros (cf. Gk. eleutheros "free"), probably originally "belonging to the people" (though the precise semantic development is obscure), from *leudho- "people" (cf. O.C.S. ljudu, Lith. liaudis, O.E. leod, Ger. Leute "nation, people").

Your Liudgert.

gerti was also geria - devourer/drinker - I don't know if this might have some bearing on the name as well.

This was Lyda. Maybe even Lord in some form, the free man, the Lord, of the people, his slaves basically.

Libya - freemen - from 'Lyda's people' (PIE? leud/ho) free/people - also seen in Liud/Ljudu - German leute - Ju Leute maybe

http://www.etymonlin...owed_in_frame=0

Here's one: Maybe King Arthur is atha too - the head of his Round Table.

The OLB world was divided in EUROPE - ASIA - AFRICA monitored by the three sisters FRYA -FINDA - LYDA. Europe was divided between Frya (West) and Finda (East), the Middle-East between Finda (back) and Lyda (front). So Lyda reigned both over Lydia and Libya.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:26 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 03 November 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

Yeah, or simply mirror a letter, and you get "Lydia".

Or Wassilia.

Lib goes back to leud and Lyd. It's that simple.

As for your Wexalia and exchange etc, I wouldn't be surprised, you have found many places that seem to match up in your areas. This is one clever, clever manuscript.

It may just be meant to be read as both.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:30 PM

View PostKnul, on 03 November 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

The OLB world was divided in EUROPE - ASIA - AFRICA monitored by the three sisters FRYA -FINDA - LYDA. Europe was divided between Frya (West) and Finda (East), the Middle-East between Finda (back) and Lyda (front). So Lyda reigned both over Lydia and Libya.
Well there you go. They mixed a fair bit in places too.  And in Lydia there was Sfard, we went there long ago but it again is like a Germanic word, swartz - black, goes through to swarthy, dark skin. They say the name comes from the colour of Sard, onyx.

This place was called Sparda by the Persians.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:32 PM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 03 November 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

Lib goes back to leud and Lyd. It's that simple.

As for your Wexalia and exchange etc, I wouldn't be surprised, you have found many places that seem to match up in your areas. This is one clever, clever manuscript.

It may just be meant to be read as both.

LIB (as in the way you explained it) goes back to freedom (from Latin, btw), LYD/LEUD/LIUD to people. Still, mirror one letter, and the meaning changes.

Give me an ancient text (Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Phoenician) that calls northern Africa 'Lydia'.

Just one.

Edited by Abramelin, 03 November 2011 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:40 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 03 November 2011 - 12:32 PM, said:

LIB goes back to freedom (from Latin, btw), LYD/LEUD/LIUD to people. Still, mirror one letter, and the meaning changes.

Give me an ancient text (Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Phoenician) that calls northern Africa 'Lydia'.

Just one.
Look harder first.

They are the same word. You asked how Libya is Lydia and I showed the word is the same.
liberal (adj.)
late 14c., from O.Fr. liberal "befitting free men, noble, generous," from L. liberalis "noble, generous," lit. "pertaining to a free man," from liber "free," from PIE base *leudheros (cf. Gk. eleutheros "free"), probably originally "belonging to the people" (though the precise semantic development is obscure), from *leudho- "people" (cf. O.C.S. ljudu, Lith. liaudis, O.E. leod, Ger. Leute "nation, people").


You don't know what they were calling it prior to them, Lyda's free people fits perfectly - the language changed slightly, from leud/lyd, maybe the locals said lib, but you can see clearly above they belong to the same word etymology.

You must see how words change over time and become different meanings. The Libyans were free-men, men of Poseidon.

I remember how much you laughed once when I said I thought Etruscan writing might be mirrored writing, you know, they had all those mirrors, were they that vain?

But in this case I don't think so. Lyda could easily be either Libya or Lydia imo.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:50 PM

This is the only theory that comes close to Lydia:

Oric Bates, a historian, considers that the name Libu or LBW would be derived from the name Luwatah[7] whilst the name Liwata is a derivation of the name Libu.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Ancient_Libya

For all the rest of recorded (Phoenician, Egyptian, Greek and Roman) history the name is written with LB.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:51 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 03 November 2011 - 12:14 PM, said:

Wat bij de omwerking tot kroniek precies de rolverdeling tussen Verwijs
en HaverSchmidt is geweest, kan vooralsnog niet precies worden vastgesteld.
Dat ze in gezamenlijk overleg hebben gewerkt, bewijst onder andere het
hierboven genoemde uit de familie Over de Linden gelekte getuigenis. Daarin
wordt het tafereel geschetst van Cornelis over de Linden die overdag stukken
afschreef en die ’s avonds samen met twee geleerde doktoren het geschrevene
nalas en dan, zo herinnerde zich Cornelis’ kleinzoon, bulderden de drie mannen
van het lachen: ‘Ze zullen het nooit geloven’.


http://argyf.fryske-...eiding_9-54.pdf

As for what the exact roles for Verwijs and Haverschmidt in the reorganization to a chronicle have been, has yet to be determined. That they have worked in mutual consultation proves, among other things, the above mentioned leaked testimony from the Over de Linden family.
In it a scene is sketched about Cornelis Over de Linden who finished some pieces of the text during daytime, and who during the evening, together with two learned doctors, re-read the writing and then, as recalled by Cornelis' grandson, the three men roared with laughter: "They'll never believe it '.


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Jensma
1. denies that Cornelis over de Linden did not understand the manuscript as he wrote to Verwijs,
2. denies that Leendert over de Linden stated that his father Cornelis over de Linden did not write the OLB,
3. denies the role of Ernest Stadermann,
4. denies that Verwijs called the OLB a hoax in a letter to Johan Winkler,
5. denies that Haverschmidt wrote to Leendert over the Linden, that he did not participate and even didn't know Cornelis over de Linden.

If one denies, what people have written, one can proof anything.

See: http://www.rodinbook...olbbrieven.html to read their letters.

Edited by Knul, 03 November 2011 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:52 PM

"I remember how much you laughed once when I said I thought Etruscan writing might be mirrored writing, you know, they had all those mirrors, were they that vain?"


How many mirrors do you have in your house?

Are you vain, or do you use it for some special writing style?

LOL !