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Does Dan Brown have a secret agenda ?


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#16    Hasina

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:54 PM

View Postlaver, on 23 January 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:



Believer?

Oh my no, lol. I've been an atheist and now more of a 'don't care'-theist.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:01 AM

If he's got a secret agenda, I certainly hope it isn't to be entertaining - as he's written a number of turgid, overly long novels full of cyphers and cliches masquerading as characters.
Ohh look, it's the villainous priest who hides behind his faith versus the stolid and reliable polymath with a "quirky" personality.
Ohh look, it's a sinister secret society encoding their knowledge into paintings.
Ohh look, it's an ancient bloodline whose sole surviving member is totally in the dark as to their true nature.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:37 AM

View PostHasina, on 23 January 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

Oh my no, lol. I've been an atheist and now more of a 'don't care'-theist.

Interesting !


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 24 January 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

If he's got a secret agenda, I certainly hope it isn't to be entertaining - as he's written a number of turgid, overly long novels full of cyphers and cliches masquerading as characters.
Ohh look, it's the villainous priest who hides behind his faith versus the stolid and reliable polymath with a "quirky" personality.
Ohh look, it's a sinister secret society encoding their knowledge into paintings.
Ohh look, it's an ancient bloodline whose sole surviving member is totally in the dark as to their true nature.

80millioncopiesofTDVCsayurwrong !


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

View Postlaver, on 24 January 2013 - 12:41 AM, said:



80millioncopiesofTDVCsayurwrong !
Someones personal opinion of a genre cannot be wrong. Also he does have the gist of it. Heck I liked some of his books. I can read fantasy/conspiracy and enjoy it for what it is. I tend to dismiss conspiracy in real life though. Are there conspiracies? Sure. Is everything a game changing apocalyptic rewrite everything we know conspiracy? Probably not. There are glaring falsehoods in Dan browns novels. So whilst it is interesting it shouldn't hold a lot of weight when considering real life. And to answer the op I feel he is simply a writer looking to sell books. Which is a perfectly OK thing to do as an author.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:03 AM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 24 January 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Someones personal opinion of a genre cannot be wrong. Also he does have the gist of it. Heck I liked some of his books. I can read fantasy/conspiracy and enjoy it for what it is. I tend to dismiss conspiracy in real life though. Are there conspiracies? Sure. Is everything a game changing apocalyptic rewrite everything we know conspiracy? Probably not. There are glaring falsehoods in Dan browns novels. So whilst it is interesting it shouldn't hold a lot of weight when considering real life. And to answer the op I feel he is simply a writer looking to sell books. Which is a perfectly OK thing to do as an author.

80 million copies sold plus second and third reads indicate that TDVC is entertaining to vast numbers of people. Dan Brown is a very clever author and his books are very well researched. This makes some of his 'glaring falsehoods' look more like 'deliberate mistakes' ? e.g TDVC - Chapter 104 - ' The chapel's ( Rosslyn ) coordinates fall precisely on the north-south meridian that runs through Glastonbury...' . Oh no they don't. Glastonbury is way off the Rosslyn meridian. So why include this bit of information at all? a mistake? a mistake that no one spotted and don't forget Dan Brown uses the word 'precisely' . He then goes on to mention the 'Rose Line', King Arthur's Avalon and the Sacred Landscape Geometry of Britain. He was making a point about ancient landscape geometry and using a piece of false information to draw attention to it. Would suggest you do not underestimate Mr Dan Brown ... conspiracy ?  no fact !


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:55 AM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 24 January 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Someones personal opinion of a genre cannot be wrong. Also he does have the gist of it. Heck I liked some of his books. I can read fantasy/conspiracy and enjoy it for what it is. I tend to dismiss conspiracy in real life though. Are there conspiracies? Sure. Is everything a game changing apocalyptic rewrite everything we know conspiracy? Probably not. There are glaring falsehoods in Dan browns novels. So whilst it is interesting it shouldn't hold a lot of weight when considering real life. And to answer the op I feel he is simply a writer looking to sell books. Which is a perfectly OK thing to do as an author.

View PostWearer of Hats, on 24 January 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

If he's got a secret agenda, I certainly hope it isn't to be entertaining - as he's written a number of turgid, overly long novels full of cyphers and cliches masquerading as characters.
Ohh look, it's the villainous priest who hides behind his faith versus the stolid and reliable polymath with a "quirky" personality.
Ohh look, it's a sinister secret society encoding their knowledge into paintings.
Ohh look, it's an ancient bloodline whose sole surviving member is totally in the dark as to their true nature.

Although the comment about 80 million copies is true and Dan Brown does obviously entertain many millions I would agree that some of his writing does make one cringe!


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:20 AM

View Postlaver, on 24 January 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

80 million copies sold plus second and third reads indicate that TDVC is entertaining to vast numbers of people.
And more people voted on American Idol then in the elections.
All that it proves that the vast majority of people are idiots.


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Dan Brown is a very clever author and his books are very well researched.
I'll give you the later but not the former.

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
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When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:30 AM

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:46 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 25 January 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

And more people voted on American Idol then in the elections.
All that it proves that the vast majority of people are idiots.



I'll give you the later but not the former.

*Thinks* I wonder if the 'American Idol' folk read many books ?


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:48 PM

View Postpacosarae, on 25 January 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

your post is almost as long as one of Dan Brown's novels.Posted ImagePosted Image

Yup, but worth a read if you are interested in maybe Mr Dan Brown's secret agenda?


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:39 AM

View Postlaver, on 24 January 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:



80 million copies sold plus second and third reads indicate that TDVC is entertaining to vast numbers of people. Dan Brown is a very clever author and his books are very well researched. This makes some of his 'glaring falsehoods' look more like 'deliberate mistakes' ? e.g TDVC - Chapter 104 - ' The chapel's ( Rosslyn ) coordinates fall precisely on the north-south meridian that runs through Glastonbury...' . Oh no they don't. Glastonbury is way off the Rosslyn meridian. So why include this bit of information at all? a mistake? a mistake that no one spotted and don't forget Dan Brown uses the word 'precisely' . He then goes on to mention the 'Rose Line', King Arthur's Avalon and the Sacred Landscape Geometry of Britain. He was making a point about ancient landscape geometry and using a piece of false information to draw attention to it. Would suggest you do not underestimate Mr Dan Brown ... conspiracy ?  no fact !
Fun fiction that's all. By your measure Peter pan must be true because it is one of the most popular children's stories in history. Does that mean if I fallow the third star to the right ill find a place where I'll never again age? Fountain of youth anyone?  Here's your map.
I kid a bit with you. I enjoyed Dan browns story but to assume historical accuracy based on false equals fact is going a bit out there.
In plain words ...he wants to be a successful
author.

Edited by Aus Der Box Skeptisch, 26 January 2013 - 02:42 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:06 AM

I think his books contain a secret message for the readers ...

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:13 AM

View Postlaver, on 25 January 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:

*Thinks* I wonder if the 'American Idol' folk read many books ?
They do if the Sainted Oprah tells them to.

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When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:56 AM

Best selling book on the market based on a conspiracy is the bible so Dan is doing quit well imo.

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