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#1    Senator Palpatine

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:14 AM

By now I guess most people are aware of the upcoming movie "The Fourth Kind", which is supposedly based on true accounts.

Apparently, there is a lot of disappearings in Nome, more than in many other places.

Is there a real psychologist, called Dr. Abigail Tyler? Are there any interesting cases from Nome?

Interestingly enough, the title is taken from Jacques Vallee's classification of close encounters, and as many probably know, Vallee is "opposed" to the theory of aliens from other planets...

To clarify, when movies say "based on real events" or some such, I am aware that they can be based on one sentence to a whole history, and that it is always unclear exactly what the "real events" are. That they pixled the face of the supposedly real psychologist is most likely another trick to make the movie more appealing. I'm not out to debate the movie, just what facts it is based on (if any).


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Posted 21 October 2009 - 07:07 AM

I'm not sure if the psychologist is a real-life person or not. I'm not interested if it actually happened, it just looks like a good film to me.

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 11:24 AM

its likely rubbish I can't find any info on this doctor or the events at nome prior to shortly before the film was announced

and sites like this http://alaskapsychia...-Tyler-Bio.html and this http://alaskanewsarc...er-Profile.html seem to be pretty thin if you just scratch the surface

looks a good film tho

Edited by Spend, 21 October 2009 - 11:28 AM.

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 12:31 PM

If it's "based on true events" then it's most likely based to the same scale Texas Chainsaw Massacre was... The story had inspiration from the Ed Gein case.. everything about the movie however, was completely fictional.

It's a game these directors and writers play to get people to go see their movies.  The person writing them is "inspired" by a true event, and writes a completely fictional story, and they get to tag it as "based on true events"

I stopped paying attention to the whole "true events" thing a long time ago.. its usually BS...


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Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:10 PM

True Story: The FBI and Missing Villagers in Nome Alaska

In 2005, the FBI sent homicide detectives to investigate a series of unsolved disappearances and deaths in Nome, Alaska. Most of the victims were Native villagers. Between the 1960s and 2004, over 20 people mysteriously died, or vanished. In 2006, the FBI concluded that "excessive alcohol consumption and a harsh winter climate" were to blame for the disappearances.

Dr. Abigail Tyler and the "Alaska Psychiatry Journal"

In the movie "The Fourth Kind," Milla Jovovich plays Dr. Abigail Tyler, the Nome, Alaska, psychiatrist who stumbles upon the 'alien abduction' link between her patients, during clinical hypnotherapy sessions. If you search for Dr. Abigail Tyler, Nome Alaska, a website called "Alaska Psychiatry Journal" provides a "biography" of Dr. Tyler with "related articles" on the topics of sleep disorders, emotional issues, hypnotherapy and regression therapy. However, the website does not have a homepage or contact information. The website was registered on GoDaddy in August 2009. A real online-medical publication would have such information, so this leads to the conclusion that the website is a viral marketing ploy, much like the promotion for the upcoming "2012" movie and the  for "Institute for Human Continuity." Sorry to burst your bubble, but this doesn't rule out that Dr. Tyler 'could' have been based on a 'real' doctor; but if there were, the true account would have made for a much more interesting find.

http://www.examiner....The-Fourth-Kind

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 10:08 PM

Good  read sweetpumper I`ll go see it just for the chill factor!
And I think the Amazeing Race went there a few years ago and shot a few roaming Nomes ? :wacko:

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:46 AM

it's not based on true events per say- between the years of 1960 and 2000 24 people died and went missing mysteriously, the fbi did an investigation and said the cause was alcohol and a harsh climate, but then a psychologist suggested it was due to alien abductions and did her own investigations. the film is based on the theory of that, but i don't think it's based on actual evidence. however my boyfriend argued that the 'archived footage' was too realistic too be dramatized....frankly it just scared the crap out of me lol. when the movie was first released there was a website that had a 'biography' of dr abigail tyler and links to several psychological therapies such as hypnosis and regression etc, but after universal investigated it there was a $20,000 settlement to cease investigation and universal claimed that the website was in fact fake and used as a marketing ploy. as far as i know, you can't go on the website anymore


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Posted 14 April 2011 - 11:49 AM

http://www.charlottemilchard.com/ - There is your 'real' Abigail Tyler.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:19 PM

According to this newspaper, there were over twenty unexplained deaths and disappearances from the 1960s to the early-2000s, and many local people suspected that a serial killer was at work.  That's why the FBI was finally called in, although they blamed most of the deaths on alcoholism, suicide, accidents, exposure, etc.  Unlike many areas with large Native American populations, Nome was not a "dry" town, and it's well known that alcohol has always had a very bad effect on these Native populations.  

Indeed, this is one case in which I think Prohibition is probably a very good idea, at least on the local level, given the damage that alcoholism inflicts on Native peoples.

This newspaper also found that no Dr. Abigail Tyler existed:

http://community.adn.com/node/143292


Even today, though, some people still suspect that a serial killer may have been running around up there.

Edited by TheMcGuffin, 14 April 2011 - 04:21 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:22 PM

View Postkatybearr, on 14 April 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

it's not based on true events per say- between the years of 1960 and 2000 24 people died and went missing mysteriously, the fbi did an investigation and said the cause was alcohol and a harsh climate, but then a psychologist suggested it was due to alien abductions and did her own investigations. the film is based on the theory of that, but i don't think it's based on actual evidence. however my boyfriend argued that the 'archived footage' was too realistic too be dramatized....frankly it just scared the crap out of me lol. when the movie was first released there was a website that had a 'biography' of dr abigail tyler and links to several psychological therapies such as hypnosis and regression etc, but after universal investigated it there was a $20,000 settlement to cease investigation and universal claimed that the website was in fact fake and used as a marketing ploy. as far as i know, you can't go on the website anymore


I saw the movie, too, and it was very scary,so well done that it left me wondering if it was really true.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 07:10 PM

I wouldnt Live up there to Save Adam! who ever Adam is?
But I still need to See the Movie missed that one all togther?
Makes me get the willie -chillies just thinking of Alaska !
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 07:19 PM

I didn't think it was scary at all!

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:04 PM

I saw this movie when it came out.  At the time I lived in Alaska and was just tickled to have a movie supposedly taking place in AK.  Quite frankly, it scared the crap out of me and everyone I went with but there is no way it's real.  First of all, the 'real footage' has some holes.  If you have ever seen a picture of Nome, it's NOTHING like the Nome in the movie.  It's on flat land with nearly no trees.  In one of the videos of the UFO outside the house you can see tall pine like trees all over.

The footage looks very real and is indeed freaky but it's all fake.  The local newspaper in Anchorage, AK got really angry because Universal faked some newspaper articles or something and that took a lawsuit and all that jazz to clear up.  

Good movie in my opinion though! :)


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Posted 15 April 2011 - 10:11 PM

One of the strangest reports at UFO Info are the multiple reports of "holographic" men in Nome in the summer of 1988. According to a source, they were reported over three nights by several people. If it's true, it's hard to imagine what they were which makes it a fun report.

Check out the reports starting at #95.


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Posted 17 April 2011 - 07:53 PM

View Postscowl, on 15 April 2011 - 10:11 PM, said:

One of the strangest reports at UFO Info are the multiple reports of "holographic" men in Nome in the summer of 1988. According to a source, they were reported over three nights by several people. If it's true, it's hard to imagine what they were which makes it a fun report.

Check out the reports starting at #95.

Those reports are hilarious! if you have a spare hour and need a good laugh give them a read. Brilliant! Seems like every sighting is the result of the witnesses intake of LSD. Id say that 99.9% of them are complete fabrications from attention seekers.





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