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#841    skyeagle409

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:04 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 12 October 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:



I learned it 6 years ago or more--ain't no fun at all having to defend the government story, unless you're at one of Sky's christmas parties. :tsu:

But wait!! Those military, commercial, and private pilots at our last Christmas party have what you don't have, which is, hands-on experience flying real aircraft.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:13 PM

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Yes, the fires WERE insufficient to weaken steel.  That's rather the point sir.  Not hot enough to weaken steel.

Apparently, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the fires burning inside the WTC buildings reached temperatures hot enough to weaken steel. Simple laws of physics, you understand. I guess you forgot how fire weaken the steel structure of the Windsor building which caused its collapse. :yes:

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And yet, one of the medical guys makes a public statement that many of the bodies were vaporized.  Not burnt, but VAPORIZED.

Not by a nuclear bomb! Apparently, human remains were found at the Fresh Kills landfill and were not vaporized.

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It is because of this little inconsistency that so many folks suspect some sort of special weapons were used.

I know about tactical nukes much more than you do, which is why I have said that nukes were not responsible. For you to bring up nukes is ridicules if you knew anything about tactical nuclear weapons, but you have made it clear, that you lack real knowledge on nuclear weaponry and its effects.

In other words, your lack of knowledge on tactical nukes is on  par with your lack of knowledge on piloting an airplane.

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Perhaps DEW, perhaps tactical nukes, but SOMETHING that can vaporize human bodies and generate enough heat to keep metal molten for weeks.

Recovered human remains were not vaporized by nukes. Now, tell us what are the aftereffects of a nuclear explosion?

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I don't know what it was Sky,...

Understand that aluminum and lead have a lower melting point than steel. In addition, do you remember what I have said concerning reactions and heat? What is an Exothermic Oxidation Reaction?

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...but at least I am able to perceive the problem.  You?  Not so much.

Your past comments are in conflict with what you have just said above.

Edited by skyeagle409, 12 October 2012 - 08:04 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:47 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 12 October 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:


And yet, one of the medical guys makes a public statement that many of the bodies were vaporized.  Not burnt, but VAPORIZED.

Can you please tell me what the word vaporized or vaporization is supposed to stand for?

To me, the scientific term is a transition phase from which liquid turns into a gas.

Are you sure your not taking the term out of context, which has become a habit of yours.......

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:05 PM

No, I'm not taking it out of context Raptor.  I'm taking it out of the information provided by a link offered here by Bee on one of these threads.

I agree it is odd to consider that many of the dead bodies at WTC were vaporized, but then there are MANY events at WTC that are odd to consider.  I still can't figure out how those tires were melted, paint blistered, and metal made molten, and so far, you and yours are unable to make a persuasive case regarding any of it.

Yeah, it's tough duty having to defend an indefensible story. :whistle:


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 13 October 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

I agree it is odd to consider that many of the dead bodies at WTC were vaporized, but then there are MANY events at WTC that are odd to consider.  I still can't figure out how those tires were melted, paint blistered, and metal made molten, and so far, you and yours are unable to make a persuasive case regarding any of it.

But, you have been saying that temperatures were too low to weaken steel.

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Yeah, it's tough duty having to defend an indefensible story. :whistle:

Considering that you have not presented evidence that refutes the official story, what more is there to say?

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 05:55 PM

Hey Guys ,hope your all well ,, im not , a little depressed really ,coming on here and reading everything i have since my last post.
Seems to me there are a lot of blinkered people on this site who really don't get wots goin on in the world tday. Here in the UK i would reckon if u spoke to most folks, average everyday people i mean, and asked there opinion on the publicised evidence shown about what occurred on 911 most would categorically agree that all we have been told is not the full truth and there really needs to be a massive totally independant review of ALL evidence.I mean in all honesty even if theres only a few thousand people that dont believe the official theory and theres probably more surely it would be beneficial if not even empowering to the people at the top to openly embrace an independant review but everytime this idea has been put fwd the official response is always a negative ,,, similar to a lot of you folk on here there are two camps at war on this thread when i thought it was gonna be more of a debating forum with each side throwing what bits of evidence they have into the melting pot and after all is mixed hopefully some clarity would of emerged for all of our benefits but it seems that people who believe in a CT idea are open to listen codgitate and digest what other people think whereas people who are happy with the official story given seem so stuck nay impossibly anal in accepting any other view at all and just poopoo all thats proposed against there theories leading me unfortunately to concurr that most are probably middle-class  church going folk who still believe heavens in the clouds hell is underground and that Adam and Eve created us all and maybe any body with a slightly different viewpoint should be charged by the witch finder general and maybe burnt at the stake. So come on its not a witch hunt and should no way have slithered to the level when your all just one step away from name callin ,,, I WANT TRUTH!!! faeries wear boots an u better believe it.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 07:34 PM

Thank God for Common Sense!


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:19 PM

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, I WANT TRUTH!!! faeries wear boots an u better believe it.

You want the truth, then here is the truth.

*   United 93 did not land at Cleveland airport because 9/11 conspiracist confused a Delta B-767 as United 93, which was a B-757

*   Passengers of United 93 did not disembark at Cleveland airport because 9/11 conspiracist confused scientist from a KC-135 as passengers of United 93.

*   No explosives were involved in the collapse of the WTC buildings, which is why explosives are not seen nor heard as the WTC buildings collapse. Monitors near the site did not record explosions. Demolition experts and investigators found no evidence of explosives in the rubble of  the WTC buildings, which explains why no explosives were seen nor heard on video and why monitors in the area did not detect explosions.

*   No explosions were heard prior to American 11 striking WTC1, which was evident in the video where no sound of an explosion was heard before WTC1 was struck by American 11, and that video has been presented many times here as well.

*   No evidence that thermite was used to bring down the WTC buildings. Demolition experts and investigators found no evidence of thermite cuts on steel from the WTC buildings and thermite is not an explosive nor widely used by  demolition companies.

*   American 77 did not pass north of the gas station, which was evident by the path of destruction leading to, and inside the Pentagon, which was clear physical evidence disproving the conspiracist theory that American 77 passed north of the gas station.

*   A cruise missile did not strike the Pentagon, which was clear to see from wreckage left behind by the B-757, not from a cruise missile.

*   United 93 crashed near Shanksville, which was confirmed by United Airlines, operator of United 93, coroner Wally Miller, and recovery crews at the crash site of United 93.

*   United 93 was not shot down by the military. Fact of the matter is, the military didn't know the whereabouts of United 93 until civilian controllers told the military that United 93 had already crashed, which was evident by communication audio tape released to the public.

*   United 175 did not carry a modified pod, which was evident in the photos and because 9/11 conspiracist confused aerodynamic fairings and main landing gear doors as a pod, not knowing that such fairings and gear doors are standard on all B-767s.

*   There were not two United 175s at Boston airport. First of all, that would have drawn serious attention to the Boson airport management seeking gate or parking, and landing fees for a faked United 175, and such a demand for such fees would have raised questions from United Airlines and ground servicing personnel.

*  The 9/11 airliners were not switched. Question is, how do you switch flights and not draw attention?

*   Switching off the transponder does not make an aircraft invisible despite claims by 9/11 conspiracist. Remember, the B-767 and the B-757 are not stealth aircraft.

*   Temperatures of the WTC fires were high enough to weaken steel and a comparison can be made with the Windsor building fire, where temperatures were high enough to collapse its steel structure.

*   The 9/11 airliners were not  modified to fly under remote control. Question is, how would you have convinced the airlines to ground their aircraft for a year so they can be illegally modified under the watchful eyes of the FAA inspectors, airline maintenance personnel, and their inspectors, and contractors and their inspectors and suppliers?

*   ACARS did not depict United 175 or American 11 airborne after they struck WTC1 and WTC2.

The list goes on and on.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:20 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 13 October 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

Thank God for Common Sense!

He wanted the truth and it was just handed to him.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:01 AM

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He wanted the truth and it was just handed to him.

I'd say that's true.
I hope he can read it and understand it!
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:11 AM

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Edit to add...

Write just about anything you want onto a T-Shirt, put that shirt on a hot chick, and snap a photo...  This gives you a compelling argument.  Well, something compelling anyway...


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(Imagine how embarrassing it would for me be if someone unearthed the full photo and found that it wasn't a chick at all...)

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:34 AM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 14 October 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

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Edit to add...

Write just about anything you want onto a T-Shirt, put that shirt on a hot chick, and snap a photo...  This gives you a compelling argument.  Well, something compelling anyway...


:blush:


(Imagine how embarrassing it would for me be if someone unearthed the full photo and found that it wasn't a chick at all...)


I replied just because of that t-shirt on the hot chic.Dude.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:33 PM

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I cannot speak for Bone Collector, but my bet is that he is rolling on the floor laughing at your claim that you "handed him" the truth.

I know I am! :w00t:


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 02:52 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 14 October 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

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I cannot speak for Bone Collector, but my bet is that he is rolling on the floor laughing at your claim that you "handed him" the truth.

I know I am! :w00t:

I have listed the truth, so what evidence do you have that refutes that list?

Go ahead, and post the evidence for all to see, otherwise, it will be clear that the truth has been listed and you cannot post evidence to the contrary, and you must know that if you don't provide evidence, then I will take that as an admission from you that the list is truthful and remind you from time to time of your blunder. :yes:

Remember, you were the person who threw in a P700 anti-ship cruise missile in the attack on the Pentagon and explosives for taking down the light poles, not to mention nukes taking down the WTC buildings. :lol:

Edited by skyeagle409, 14 October 2012 - 02:58 PM.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

Well Well , The truth at last heh,, But dare I ask , where did you glean your evidence ? who told you that what you have written is the truth who certified this to be a full and accurate picture of what occurred on that strange and fatefull day . please dont tell me that you accepted all you were told by non manipulated news channels or that you read the truth from obviously unbiased newspapers with no political agendas. or as i think you must be because of the way you are all so stowic in the defense of the truth as you see it members of a political party or some kind of national security bureau ??? probably not.
Im playing Devils Advocate here as you may have guessed I WANT TO KNOW WOT REALLY HAPPENED i know you have listed your facts but to be straight ive seen all of this before but it so seems like a bungled cover up i have seen more documentaries recently from people whom i wud deem credible with no vested interest  or political agendas pointing more and more to a conspiracy theories than an organised terror attack, i eagerly await my slaughter.......





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