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Demons, what are they?

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#1    Jor-el

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:14 PM

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We've all heard about them, whether we believe in their existence or not, they are portrayed in many different forms and ways in movies, books and generally they infest our culture at an almost subliminal level. No one asks what is a demon? They simply know.

But that is actually a profound question when one thinks about it carefully. What is a Demon, Where did they come from, Did they always exist?

These are questions that are often asked by many, but the answers? They are as varied as snowflakes. So what do you think?


Let me put it to you that demons are not fallen angels, as a matter of fact they aren't angels of any sort and never were.

Edited by Jor-el, 07 February 2013 - 08:15 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

View PostJor-el, on 07 February 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:


Let me put it to you that demons are not fallen angels, as a matter of fact they aren't angels of any sort and never were.

How do you know this?

One's reality is another's nightmare.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

I have no idea what they are to be honest. I'm also not sure whether they exist or not.
But I think they probably do exist due to people been possessed. I'm not sure how possessions can be logically
explained in any other way


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

View PostJ. K., on 07 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

How do you know this?

Because that is one of the very greatest assumptions christianity ever made in reading the bible, nowhere does it say or imply this, but that is exactly what christianity teaches.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

b****y spirits with angst issues
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:35 PM

they are several things. Myth, psychotic manifestations, fear based manifestations in altered states, misinterpretation sponsored by  people's anima, the jungian archetype of shadow. All these things mingle together actually. And I'm starting to investigate the possibility of psychic storms and the negativity manifested in these things, but I must admit I don't know where to begin.

Just my opinion. But it's not just guesses or parroting from other sources.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:38 PM

I use dictionary.com's definition, the third one:

3.  a person considered extremely wicked, evil, or cruel.

Drunk with blood..
Dangerous cult leaders
Jewish gematria # 1162:
Who is like God
The epitome of evil

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:52 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 07 February 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

they are several things. Myth, psychotic manifestations, fear based manifestations in altered states, misinterpretation sponsored by  people's anima, the jungian archetype of shadow. All these things mingle together actually. And I'm starting to investigate the possibility of psychic storms and the negativity manifested in these things, but I must admit I don't know where to begin.

Just my opinion. But it's not just guesses or parroting from other sources.

Or they could be real entities that do not have humanities best interest at heart.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:54 PM

View PostHavocWing, on 07 February 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

I use dictionary.com's definition, the third one:

3.  a person considered extremely wicked, evil, or cruel.

I can't agree with that one basically because a demon is not human and never was. We can call evil human beings a plethora of different names, but "demon" ain't one of them in my opinion.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

View PostJor-el, on 07 February 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

I can't agree with that one basically because a demon is not human and never was. We can call evil human beings a plethora of different names, but "demon" ain't one of them in my opinion.

So you wouldn't consider someone like Adolph Hitler a demon?  I consider him a demon, I'm sure alot of people do.

What about that ex-cop who just went on a rampage?

Edited by HavocWing, 07 February 2013 - 09:15 PM.

Drunk with blood..
Dangerous cult leaders
Jewish gematria # 1162:
Who is like God
The epitome of evil

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

View PostJor-el, on 07 February 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:


These are questions that are often asked by many, but the answers? They are as varied as snowflakes. So what do you think?


Interesting.  When standing in a snowstorm, it's difficult to avoid being touched by a specific subset of snowflakes.

One's reality is another's nightmare.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:23 PM

View PostHavocWing, on 07 February 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

So you wouldn't consider someone like Adolph Hitler a demon?  I consider him a demon, I'm sure alot of people do.

What about that ex-cop who just went on a rampage?

I would call them psychopaths, mentally ill, or even demented, but no, I couldn't call them demons. True, the term can be used as a metaphor in relation to people, but that is not what the term is about.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

View PostJ. K., on 07 February 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

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Interesting.  When standing in a snowstorm, it's difficult to avoid being touched by a specific subset of snowflakes.

True, but you always have the option of getting out of the storm.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:31 PM

Demons exist, alright. They exist within each and every one of us, and they need to be restrained, lest we destroy ourselves.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:33 PM

View PostJor-el, on 07 February 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

True, but you always have the option of getting out of the storm.

As do you have the option of believing or not believing in demons, There just a figment of people's imagination and until someone can throw some evidence on the table to prove they exist then thats all they will ever be.

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