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[orangepeaceful79]

My question is of the information seeking variety.  It is not a challenge, nor is it snarky or sarcastic in any way.  My question is this;  can anyone provide documentation of an instance in history where a conspiracy theorist deduced that there was a conspiracy afoot, outed the conspiracy and that the world was changed for the better as a result?  That is, that there was a material difference made, or policy shift for the better, or something of that nature?

Thanks for humoring my curiosity.

[Super-Fly]

I'd say no,

Thats why there called a

Conspiracy Theory.

Thanks,

Edited by Super-Fly, 22 October 2012 - 05:41 PM.

[RedSquirrel]

Oddly enough, I have been pretty bad at finding what you have asked for. The closest is the The Tuskegee Syphilis Study (TSS for the rest of my post), though I am unsure if any Theories about it.
I believe in all honesty that you've asked for something that cannot be given (Not that you meant for that outcome?), as I cannot think of any Theory that was later proven true, but many conspiracies that have been released into public record. I mean, sure, perhaps a few people thought the Government was messing with the victims of the TSS, but I found zero records of anyone saying anything to that effect.

[The Mule]

Block sox scandal of 1919?

Not sure that kicking buck weaver and joe jackson out of baseball was a positive, but appointed kennisaw landis as commish was a step in the right direction for the future of the game.

[Eldorado]

Watergate!

[Dredimus]

This link is to InfoWars, it provides a list of "Conspiracy Theories" that were found to be true. Some are positive I suppose...

http://www.infowars....on-should-know/

[ImaLoner]

Are you looking for something that's on a grand scale or a smaller one?   As The Mule mentioned..   As I understand conspiracy theories, and a conspiracy theorist is welcome to correct me if I'm wrong, to be a conspiracy theory, one first has to either come to an idea on his or her own or someone could share the idea with another.  The theory has to be believed by more than one person to be a theory.  So, an example is the 1919 World Series.  Hugh Fullerton was told by another individual, who was "in the know" that the World Series was going to be fixed.  He watched the series and looked for deliberate "mistakes", and found many throughout.  He wrote an article, which caused the investigation to begin.  It has been proven that there was a conspiracy to throw the series, and before the proof was provided, this made Fullerton a conspiracy theorist.  So, yes, there have been instances where conspiracy theorists have uncovered conspiracies and made a difference.

[Hilander]

I was going to say Watergate too.  Laws were changed because of that.

[flyingswan]

The only one that comes to mind is the persistent claim during the Cold War that the USSR was funding all sorts of left-wing activity in the UK.  Therefore, anything left-wing was a Communist conspiracy.

Come glasnost, this claim was shown to be true:

In November 1991, shortly before the CPGB was wound up, its members were shocked by revelations that between 1956 and the late 1970s, it had been secretly funded by the Soviet Union. The money came in the form of bundles of cash handed to the party's then deputy general secretary Reuben Falber by a Soviet embassy official.
http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-18351323

However, the change for the better is elusive.

[Insaniac]

I'd imagine that you never hear of people releasing their truths (proof of a conspiracy) to the public, because the moment they do, they get bumped off as it were. Especially if the conspiracy involves the government.

Did JFK not try to prove a conspiracy? And look what happened to him.

Then theres Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, etc.

[orangepeaceful79]

Insaniac, on 22 October 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

I'd imagine that you never hear of people releasing their truths (proof of a conspiracy) to the public, because the moment they do, they get bumped off as it were. Especially if the conspiracy involves the government.

Did JFK not try to prove a conspiracy? And look what happened to him.

Then theres Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, etc.

Thats why i asked for examples of people who did, and a difference was made as a result.  Because honestly most conspiracy theories never seem to make a material difference whatsoever.  Thanks.

[Insaniac]

orangepeaceful79, on 22 October 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Thats why i asked for examples of people who did, and a difference was made as a result.  Because honestly most conspiracy theories never seem to make a material difference whatsoever.  Thanks.

Maybe Alex Jones has proven a conspiracy? He supposedly snuck into the Bohemian Grove and saw a ritual of some kind taking place. Also, it may be worth noting that some claim Alex is just a government-payed shill actually working for the Illuminati. (cult that is a part of/inside the government.)

Edited by Insaniac, 22 October 2012 - 06:51 PM.

[Imaginarynumber1]

orangepeaceful79, on 22 October 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

My question is of the information seeking variety.  It is not a challenge, nor is it snarky or sarcastic in any way.  My question is this;  can anyone provide documentation of an instance in history where a conspiracy theorist deduced that there was a conspiracy afoot, outed the conspiracy and that the world was changed for the better as a result?  That is, that there was a material difference made, or policy shift for the better, or something of that nature?

Thanks for humoring my curiosity.

P2 Conspiracy

Mason, the Mob, the Vatican and Italian Politics, all sent in place by NATO's (CIA's) Operation Gladio.


Edit: I didn't fully read your original post. P2 was discovered by prosecutors, not conspiracy theorists. Sorry about that.

Even Operation Watchtower( the CIA drug running, not the WWII battle) in the wake of the whole Iran-Contra scandal was exposed by a journalist and an informant.

I can't find any conspiracy theorists that have proven any conspiracies.

Edited by Imaginarynumber1, 22 October 2012 - 06:56 PM.

[Eldorado]

Imaginarynumber1, on 22 October 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

Even Operation Watchtower( the CIA drug running, not the WWII battle) in the wake of the whole Iran-Contra scandal was exposed by a journalist and an informant.

I can't find any conspiracy theorists that have proven any conspiracies.

Taking the above as being true; the journalist had a theory there was shenanigans going on based on the evidence he had so set about gathering more, irrefutable evidence to prove it was more than a just a theory.   Is that not a "successful" conspiracy theorist?

[Imaginarynumber1]

Eldorado, on 22 October 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Taking the above as being true; the journalist had a theory there was shenanigans going on based on the evidence he had so set about gathering more, irrefutable evidence to prove it was more than a just a theory.   Is that not a "successful" conspiracy theorist?

An informant contacted him.