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#46    TK0001

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 07:13 PM

View PostBelial, on 15 April 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:

I wonder just how many of these 'truth seekers' really give a **** about all the poor passengers and innocent workers who lost there lives that day?

Whenever I ask, they always, without fail, come back with something about me not caring about GWB murdering his own people. It's usually a platform for them to talk about how they're the true patriots and I'm the gullible coward who blindly follows his government. Good times.


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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:01 PM

View PostTK0001, on 15 April 2010 - 06:35 PM, said:

All of this can be explained with very logical conclusions that don't point to impossibly massive conspiracies, if you care to look.

I did not say there was a conspiracy now did I. I only stated that there was/is something fishy about the whole thing.  

And Alien... The US knew about a planned attack on pearl harbor and allowed THAT to happen.  So I dont think that its a real far strech to consider that possiblity.

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:06 PM

View PostTK0001, on 15 April 2010 - 07:13 PM, said:

Whenever I ask, they always, without fail, come back with something about me not caring about GWB murdering his own people. It's usually a platform for them to talk about how they're the true patriots and I'm the gullible coward who blindly follows his government. Good times.
You must be talking to a bunch of weirdos!!  Ok you gullible coward let me just tell you about GWB ..... no no no no no That was only a joke!!!  :w00t:

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:36 PM

View Postzenfahr, on 15 April 2010 - 08:01 PM, said:

I did not say there was a conspiracy now did I. I only stated that there was/is something fishy about the whole thing.

Okay, care to ask the questions and have them answered? Or would you rather leave it at "something's fishy" and move on?

I'm seriously asking this. If you have questions about what happened, I could try to answer them for you.


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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:44 PM

View PostTK0001, on 15 April 2010 - 08:36 PM, said:

Okay, care to ask the questions and have them answered? Or would you rather leave it at "something's fishy" and move on?

I'm seriously asking this. If you have questions about what happened, I could try to answer them for you.
Actually yeah I do have one question if you dont mind.  Can you explain the cuts on these beams?

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:52 PM

Those are cuts from a thermal lance.  We can tell from the slag that has formed along the sides, and from the scalloped edge, which is formed as the lance is pushed through.  You can see more slag towards the bottom, which indicates that the beams where likely secured from the top (by crane, usually) prior to being cut, so they wouldn't fall randomly and could be safely lowered.


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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:54 PM

whats a thermal lance aquatus?

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 09:12 PM

they were cut during cleanup.

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 10:52 PM

View Postzenfahr, on 15 April 2010 - 08:54 PM, said:

whats a thermal lance aquatus?

There are a couple of different types, but generally they are cutters that use a thermal reaction, usually with either aluminum or magnesium, and oxygen to create unbelievable amounts of heat to melt through practically anything.

The ones usually used in these sorts of situations (cutting massive, thick, walls of steel) are magnesium tubes with aluminum rods, with oxygen pumped through it.  The tip is ignited and the rod is pushed and dragged through the steel, melting its way through.


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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:37 AM

View Postzenfahr, on 15 April 2010 - 08:54 PM, said:

whats a thermal lance aquatus?

Here's one in action.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 01:21 AM

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Here's one in action.

Yeah, that might have been used in the cleanup but it's beside the point. The building was not brought down by convential demolition. Normally, they kick the feet out from under the building and gravity brings it down. Not here. All 3 of these buildings fell at free fall. It was if they had been dropped from above, There was nothing under them. They were demolished as they were falling from the top down. Thats where all that metal flowing out of the windows came from. They had explosives in the lower basement all right, maybe a mini-nuke but most of the damage was done before they hit the ground, otherwise, they couldn't have fallen so fast. Getting that BS about a thermal lance in the conversation is just to confuse the issue.   KennyB


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Posted 16 April 2010 - 01:44 AM

I'm sorry Hocus, but this is crap...i saw with my own eyes when the 2nd plane hit...i live in Brooklyn, my brother had the apartment above mine, thats where we both saw the plane...we can see the buildings in Manhattan from here...i always thought there were more to what happened that day, but there was a plane that hit...i have family members who were there when it happened and i saw it with my own eyes, not on tv or the computer

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 02:27 AM

View Postshaka5, on 16 April 2010 - 01:44 AM, said:

I'm sorry Hocus, but this is crap...i saw with my own eyes when the 2nd plane hit...i live in Brooklyn, my brother had the apartment above mine, thats where we both saw the plane...we can see the buildings in Manhattan from here...i always thought there were more to what happened that day, but there was a plane that hit...i have family members who were there when it happened and i saw it with my own eyes, not on tv or the computer

Hocus means well and he is right. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. It is the biggest conpiracy ever played against the American people. The U.S. Govt and the Mossad murdered over 3000 people right in front of your eyes, blamed it on the Muslims and went and invaded 2 innocent countries for their oil. They got away with it, leaving nothing behind except a c*** and bull story. There probably were no planes hijacked. Those were CIA planes painted to look like the airline planes. They probably went to a secret base while the radio-controlled ones were used as bombs. No plane hit the Pentagon, the plane flew over it and landed. The last one was shot down or delibertly blown up in the air. All the passengers were killed and disposed of. There were not a great number of people that knew about it. The Mossad did most of the dirty work and went home. The CIA and FBI mostly cleaned up behind them. The govt has the edge. They can give any kind of fool excuse they please and you can believe it or not. What can you do about it? Then there's always some that take the govt side and help cover it up.  KennyB


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Posted 16 April 2010 - 02:29 AM

View PostKennyB, on 16 April 2010 - 01:21 AM, said:

Yeah, that might have been used in the cleanup but it's beside the point. The building was not brought down by convential demolition. Normally, they kick the feet out from under the building and gravity brings it down. Not here. All 3 of these buildings fell at free fall. It was if they had been dropped from above, There was nothing under them. They were demolished as they were falling from the top down. Thats where all that metal flowing out of the windows came from. They had explosives in the lower basement all right, maybe a mini-nuke but most of the damage was done before they hit the ground, otherwise, they couldn't have fallen so fast. Getting that BS about a thermal lance in the conversation is just to confuse the issue.   KennyB
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 03:22 AM

View PostHocus, on 14 April 2010 - 07:09 PM, said:

At all 4 incident sites there is absolutely no evidence of a plane. None, apart from a few small scraps of metal, easily plantable by hand or truck.
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