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[psyche101]

nopeda, on 22 November 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

My impression has been that they did fly and were made and flown by xts who are now outa here. Rumor has it they'll be back though. You can't realistically consider that though can you? You can believe they could come for the first time, right? But not for the second time, or the third, or the hundred thousandth...

You know, the fact that you think a massive stone stricture can fly without any explanation even though we have the blue prints to build one and cannot because they make no aerodynamic sense whatsoever just comes as no shock to me.

No I do not believe that extraterrestrial species have visited here. That is your little fantasy that you are desperate to drag everyone into. Go ahead, consider it yourself, why are you so desperate for support? You wont get any for your nonsense you now. I am not fantasy prone enough to consider the ridiculous tales you bring to the conversation, so why bother keep trying to convert me? I would rather not exist than be like you. Not a single person has found an ounce of value on your rantings, so why force yourself on everyone?

Here you go, go build this and show us all up. This is what you are saying is possible make it so.



Or maybe you could make us one of these and fly it around as proof?





Bet the propellors on this come in real handy in space..........






I can see how you keep referring to Abydos, the depictions are almost identical................... NOT, hey not even similar. Good God man, must be the Atlantan flying machine huh?

[psyche101]

nopeda, on 22 November 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

What do you think DOES restrict it? And what do you think bumps it up when it needs that? It probably needs to be increased about as often as it needs to be slowed down, so...? Oh yeah, and don't forget to explain why the velocity is adjusted but the frequency is not.

Like all things, resistance restricts movement, you know, the definition of resistance. It could be applied to your argument on the speed of light. You resist knowledge that would make the process clear to you. Things do not accelerate light.

Maybe you ought to go back a few steps, wave frequency is dependant on the medium. Good God man, you do not even understand how to ask the question. Please stop wasting my time with inane rubbish to fill your day.

velocityxfrequencyxwavelength.  LINK - EDUCATE YOURSELF.

Edited by psyche101, 28 November 2012 - 12:23 AM.

[Quaentum]

nopeda, on 27 November 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

But since the events etc already HAVE taken place there's no place to travel back to. What you're referring to isn't even what you're pretending it is. If a person traveled back to 200 years ago they would cease to exist. Instead when stories talk about time travel they're really talking about everyting in the universe EXCEPT FOR the supposed traveler going back in time. Everything ELSE goes back to the way it was, but the supposed traveler remains the same. So it's not only impossible but also not what you and other people pretend it would be if it were. You're left with nothing not even a concept left to play with.

The concept of time travel remains even though as conceived it is not possible as I previously stated.  Unfortunately for you, you don't seem to understand the concept.  I'll try to enlighten you but hold out no hopes of your understanding.  The concept says that a person in a time machine is outside of time, so to speak, so is not affected by time while he travels.

[Quaentum]

nopeda, on 27 November 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

When the problem is that I've been on down the road for years but someone else can't get to the starting line. Which particular starting line did I point out that you can't get to, do you have any idea? Do you think there's any chance you ever could get to it if so, and if so what do you think it would take in order for you to be able to get there?

Same answer and same lack of a coherent, logical or common sense reply to what I had posted.  You seem to be under the mistaken belief that by continually using that answer it somehow validates your position and invalidates others when in reality it does exactly the opposite.

[Quaentum]

nopeda, on 27 November 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

For years I felt confident that xts had never been here because if they had they probably would still be coming around, and if they came around I had confidence that we would be able to detect them picking them up on radar etc. Finally though I thought it through and realised how ignorant an idea that was, which then opened the door to the possibility that they have been around and do come around. That opens up a whole new universe of possibilities. So I encourage other people to give up whatever ignorance is preventing them from considering the possibility and moving on...

I believe people should be able to say what they want and eventually "bad" words would cease to exist, but it would take a few generations. Now it's still a problem caused by people who have a problem with certain words, so from my pov anything that encourages the problem to remain a problem is just slowing things down.

The use of curse(cuss) words has been around for generations, starting about 1000 years ago.  It is clear that time and generations won't eliminate them.  It is only when a person exercises self control does the use diminish.  Interestingly enough, anyone can get their point across without the use of them, while the use of them not only does not enhance the point the poster is trying to make but ofttimes detracts from it.

[Quaentum]

nopeda, on 27 November 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

No. I give people the chance to say what else they believe he could be. It's not my fault that they can't think of anything else. If there is nothing else as I believe, then I'd like to be aware of it even though some people apparently have problems with it. But why??? Why do they even CARE???  People often seem to hate the idea even though it appears that's the only way it COULD be.

This post of yours clearly shows a closed mind.  The difference between you and others is that they can envision other possibilities but some have decided to base their conclusions on evidence or the lack thereof, while you accept nothing that contradicts your belief even when it is evidence.

[Quaentum]

nopeda, on 27 November 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

Some evidence supports it, especially texts which clearly say that we have been. Also the structures it seems impossible those people could have built as well as the fact that many if not all of them were built in dedication to what would have to be xts. Also countless UFO sightings are evidence as well as crop circles. So you can't say there's no evidence even if this planet contains the only life in the entire universe, which seems incredibly unlikely.

Please link to the texts that clearly say we have been visited by aliens, not just ones you or others believe say it but ones that are clear to all.  You mean structures like the Great Pyramid?  That kind of structure?  The same one where they have found the remains of worker camps that would have housed thousands and also the remains of a ramp on the south side of the pyramid?  

A technologically advanced race would not have needed thousands of workers or ramps.  That alone shows that it was not aliens but humans that built the Great Pyramid and since they could build that they could and did build all the pyramids in Egypt.

[me-wonders]

psyche101, on 28 November 2012 - 12:15 AM, said:

You know, the fact that you think a massive stone stricture can fly without any explanation even though we have the blue prints to build one and cannot because they make no aerodynamic sense whatsoever just comes as no shock to me.

No I do not believe that extraterrestrial species have visited here. That is your little fantasy that you are desperate to drag everyone into. Go ahead, consider it yourself, why are you so desperate for support? You wont get any for your nonsense you now. I am not fantasy prone enough to consider the ridiculous tales you bring to the conversation, so why bother keep trying to convert me? I would rather not exist than be like you. Not a single person has found an ounce of value on your rantings, so why force yourself on everyone?

Here you go, go build this and show us all up. This is what you are saying is possible make it so.



Or maybe you could make us one of these and fly it around as proof?





Bet the propellors on this come in real handy in space..........






I can see how you keep referring to Abydos, the depictions are almost identical................... NOT, hey not even similar. Good God man, must be the Atlantan flying machine huh?

The subject is interesting, but the insulting manner of some replies ruins the thread.

[Sweetpumper]

me-wonders, on 28 November 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

The subject is interesting, but the insulting manner of some replies ruins the thread.

It won't get any better, in any UFO thread.

[Slave2Fate]

me-wonders, on 28 November 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

The subject is interesting, but the insulting manner of some replies ruins the thread.

I think psyche is being a civilized gentleman compared to some of the things nopeda has said. In the face of nopeda's rude and ignorant posts I see no reason why psyche should have to mince words. Just my opinion though.

[synchronomy]

nopeda, on 27 November 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

When the problem is that I've been on down the road for years but someone else can't get to the starting line. Which particular starting line did I point out that you can't get to, do you have any idea? Do you think there's any chance you ever could get to it if so, and if so what do you think it would take in order for you to be able to get there?

It would be nice to have a dime every time in this thread you have used that passive-aggressive comment to essentially label another member as "clueless".  I could afford a good steak dinner in a fine restaurant.
Instead of answering every question posed with another question or overuse subtle innuendo to demonstate your self-professed intellectual superiority...why don't you bring some facts to the table to back-up the speculative conjecture of Ancient Aliens.
It is NOT a theory.

Edited by synchronomy, 28 November 2012 - 05:48 PM.

[mcrom901]

synchronomy, on 28 November 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

why don't you bring some facts to the table to back-up the speculative conjecture of Ancient Aliens.

[R4z3rsPar4d0x]

The link that Boony posted is concrete irifutable proof that everything didnt come to being by ancient aliens, that it is possible for man to achieve these things and they actually have evidence of the fact that man did these things.  Theres a 3 hour long thing On youtube, off of Boonys link that shows and goes into even more detail about these things that ancient aliens claim to have been built and influenced by aliens.  Its all THERE.  Now if your not gonna take that into account than I dont know what to tell you.

[synchronomy]

mcrom901, on 28 November 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

I though his hair was a horrifying spectacle on the series.
But look at that ungodly "thing" beside him.  He'll probably claim it's a priceless artifact depicting and alien, when in fact it was a gift to him from Childress, who picked it up for $5 at a garage sale!

[Babe Ruth]

In the final analysis, both sides are speculating, and for those who doubt we have been visited before, they are unable to offer any sort of plausible explanation for the points the AA folks present.

How could stone surfaces be machined to tolerances we can barely meet today, when humans were still hunter gatherers?

How could the Mayan calendar be more accurate than our atomic clocks today?

How is it that the value of Pi could be annotated on cave walls many thousands of years before mathematicians existed?