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#1    Render

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:11 PM

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Monsanto doesn't plan to apply for the approval of new genetically modified seeds in Europe due to low demand from farmers and stiff opposition from the general public, the U.S. agricultural company's German spokeswoman said Sunday.
"As long as there's not enough demand from farmers for these products and the public at large doesn't accept the technology, it makes no sense to fight against windmills," Ursula Luettmer-Ouazane said Sunday, confirming a report in Berlin-based German daily TAZ newspaper.
Ms. Luettmer-Ouazane said, however, this is nothing new, as Monsanto hasn't applied for growing modified plant varieties in Europe for the past two or three years.
"It's obvious that Europe needs more time, while other regions have embraced our concepts more readily", she said.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:55 PM

Fantastic.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 09:11 PM

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 09:15 PM

:tu: WAY TO GO!

Proof that no voice is too small! This is a huge wake-up call for Monsanto!

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:05 AM

Good thing there wasn't internet with all scare mongering back few ages ago, cause potatoes/tomatoes/eggplants/etc would have been banned in Europe (sceawy, vewy sceawy solanine plus potato tubers "causing leprosy"), and all ungodly plant breeding fields would have been demolished by mob of "concerned" about long term impacts on both sides of Atlantic..

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:20 AM

View Postbmk1245, on 04 June 2013 - 09:05 AM, said:

Good thing there wasn't internet with all scare mongering back few ages ago, cause potatoes/tomatoes/eggplants/etc would have been banned in Europe (sceawy, vewy sceawy solanine plus potato tubers "causing leprosy"), and all ungodly plant breeding fields would have been demolished by mob of "concerned" about long term impacts on both sides of Atlantic..
There you go again confusing selective breeding with genetic engineering, will you never learn the difference ?

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 04 June 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

There you go again confusing selective breeding with genetic engineering, will you never learn the difference ?

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Sorry, to disappoint you, but I know difference.
Thing is, selective breeding was seen by some individuals as ungodly and evil act. Nowadays, such individuals would be (and actually are on various subjects) very, very vocal about "dangers" it poses, based solely on fiction, lies, misinterpretations, cherry-picking, etc (e.g. nowadays anti-vaccination furor, "genetically modified vitamin C", "small amount of GMO will make you sick" etc, etc, Heh, I wonder, if I extract water from GMO, will it be "genetically modified H2O"?).

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:07 AM

I'm not opposed to the idea of GM crops, like any technology I think it has potentially good and bad applications. However Monsanto has shown it cares not for the good applications of the technology, and it concerned primarily with profit. It could be a non-issue, or it could be catastrophic. In either case the Monsanto stockholders are going to laugh all the way to the bank.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

View Postbmk1245, on 04 June 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

Sorry, to disappoint you, but I know difference.
Thing is, selective breeding was seen by some individuals as ungodly and evil act. Nowadays, such individuals would be (and actually are on various subjects) very, very vocal about "dangers" it poses, based solely on fiction, lies, misinterpretations, cherry-picking, etc (e.g. nowadays anti-vaccination furor, "genetically modified vitamin C", "small amount of GMO will make you sick" etc, etc, Heh, I wonder, if I extract water from GMO, will it be "genetically modified H2O"?).

If you know you don't seem to understands why the difference matters fundamentally.

Hardly hysteria, there are well respected geneticist who are sounding the alarm bells for exactly the reasons I have outlined previously;

http://occupymonsant...ngineered-food/

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“Genetic engineering is 40 years old. It is based on the naive understanding of the genome based on the One Gene – one protein hypothesis of 70 years ago, that each gene codes for a single protein. The Human Genome project completed in 2002 showed that this hypothesis is wrong.


The whole paradigm of the genetic engineering technology is based on a misunderstanding. Every scientist now learns that any gene can give more than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant eventually creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously allergenic or toxic.”


Thierry Vrain


Ex advocate for GMO's declares he was very wrong.



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Edited by Br Cornelius, 04 June 2013 - 10:45 AM.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:36 PM

"Europe needs more time" haha. Europe needs no Monsanto. The entire company should be wiped off the face of the planet.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:24 PM

Anyone else think that Monsanto will follow SOP and just buy some politicians?

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:48 PM

I don't have any problem with GMO tec in itself. I do have a problem with how some GMO seems to be rushed, without proper studies, with a lot of sketchy studies and biased information.. A ton of general public mis-information made easier by the fact that a majority of people now don't have a clue about growing things or where their food comes from.

I have a problem with Monsanto specifically. They have a long history of, erm, not wise products and a habit of pushing products anyway. They have bad practices. Every time someone tells them no, I cheer. Hooray that they are so poorly received that they decide not to try lobbying. I hope every nation on the non-Monsanto bandwagon for crops.. If they also currently purchase wheat from the U.S., stop.

There are other GMO plant companies out there. They have had their fingers rapped too. But Monsanto is the one that time and again is the one that stands out for doing bad and being frowned upon. I'm not thrilled with the other companies, but I rabidly loathe Monsanto.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:00 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 04 June 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

Sorry, to disappoint you, but I know difference.
Thing is, selective breeding was seen by some individuals as ungodly and evil act. Nowadays, such individuals would be (and actually are on various subjects) very, very vocal about "dangers" it poses, based solely on fiction, lies, misinterpretations, cherry-picking, etc (e.g. nowadays anti-vaccination furor, "genetically modified vitamin C", "small amount of GMO will make you sick" etc, etc, Heh, I wonder, if I extract water from GMO, will it be "genetically modified H2O"?).

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:04 PM

I maybe would be a little more open to GMO plants if they would bring an actual benefit, the reality of the story is that so far we are risking our health, and certainly the health of most soils where GMO is planted, for the benefit of one less task for the farmer (the weeding)... sorry, but that is way too little for running all the risks we run.

Edited by questionmark, 05 June 2013 - 09:15 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:09 PM

Bullying farmers into using their seeds to grow crops that won't produce any useable seeds. The farmer is then forced to go back to get more seeds and thus is caught in the vicious web. If the crops really were producing huge yields of nutritious crops, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. But that's far from the truth...

Why doesn't Monsanto concentrate on "designing" tomatoes loaded with vitamins? Or corn loaded with nutrients? C'mon Monsanto if you're so proud of your products why won't you put your name on it?

That whole company should be labeled one giant human rights violation.

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