But here is a question I want to pose, astral plane is it internalized or externalized experience?
A skeptic can retort, ah you are just lucidly dreaming Seeker79? Or some such argument?
Due to my personal experiences, I am astonished you do not believe evil entities or negative spirits exist. I am absolutely astonished. But my undeniable proof can not be shared with others per se.
Yes indeed the skeptics do. But lucid dreams happen during rem. the rem cycle takes 90 minutes to start. It's not dreaming as we define dreaming. If a skeptic wants a label, the skeptic would call the journey and induced sustained hypnagogic trance.
Indeed that's all we have here is our personal experiences, and do to mine I cannot. I heave encountered "evil spirts" before, and I keep a detailed journal. One representation of a type of evil spirit I see is related to the flu. I see them just before my kids get sick or a flue sweeps through my family. It's my interpretation of something that I am aware of on a deeper level. We are just visual beings we have to construct images for everything we become aware of. Another might think the "evil spirit" is causing the sickness, I am well aware corolation problems with assumptions like that. All other encounters, I have learned to refocus my mind channel psychological fear away from me and realize that altered state imagery is a visual construct of things that are not even in physical reality. In essence you have to learn to master your self, and not let sponsoring emotions and instincts control you. This frees you from reacting to stressors that cause you to inturpret things as "demons". Do you remember when NEO in the Matrix held up his hand and stopped the bullets. He finally realized that nothing is as it seems, intellectually he knew it, but had not integrated it until that moment. Then his mind opened, and he could see the matrix for what it really was.
This is reminiscent of when the Buddha faced the demon hords of Mara and over came them.
It's also a common theme in almost all heroic journies. Part of the heros journey is often a decent into hell then a rebirth haveing conquered it, in shaminism it is the shamanic crisis.
Educate yourself, meditate, allow your thoughts deep self reflection, surrender your self to the great spirit. Demons will evaporate.
This is an interesting discussion
"Mara's most effective weapon is sustaining a climate of fear, whether the fear be of drought or famine or cancer or terrorism. Identifying with a desire or fear tightens the knot that binds one to it, and, thereby, the sway it can have over one."
"In the course of the Buddha's Enlightenment it is stressed that he overcame ignorance and darkness, conceptions which are also used prominently in connection with Mara's activities. Both are readily associated with the capacity to blind men, in terms of confusing their understanding."
I don't think we are here to struggle against evil, ambush bug, we are here to struggle against ourselves.
Edited by Seeker79, 20 December 2012 - 03:20 PM.