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[Still Waters]

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In two separate breakthroughs, researchers have revealed that they have successfully created a calf whose milk could be drunk by people suffering from lactose intolerance and a second animal whose milk contains high levels of "healthy" fat found in fish.

The cows are part of a growing effort by scientists to make food and drink products from livestock healthier by genetically altering the animals.

The work, however, is likely to inflame the debate about GM foods. Critics of the technology have reacted angrily to the research and questioned the safety of milk from genetically modified animals.

http://www.telegraph...thier-milk.html

[King Fluffs]

Wow.
I bet it will taste milky.

[libstaK]

Pfft, I won't be drinking it, real milk from unadulterated cows please - it's what we evolved with.

[karmakazi]

Everything about this feels wrong.  I don't want to consume genetically engineered cows, and it kinda seems like animal cruelty.

[Bildr]

Comme on! Theirs so easy way to drink ''milk'' whitout lactose;  Soy Milk, Rice Milk, Almond milk etc(most are all FULL of calcium and protein, specialy soy milk).... So to waste time and money to geneticaly alter a cow  for producing humanas drinkable milk, is... in MY opinion, idiotic!!!

Edited by Bildr, 17 June 2012 - 06:40 PM.

[Paracelse]

Then why couldn't we have genetically atlered scientist who wouldn't do stoopid research?

[Render]

My god, small minded anyone?

Eating pigs is eating altered pigs...fattening them up like that, it's not natural.
These cows don't know the difference between giving "regular milk" and "adjusted" milk.
This is not animal cruelty, nor idiotic.

Creating a dogbreed with legs as short as a pickle is animal cruelty. Is that acceptable? Or is GM just easier to call evil, cuz it's trendy to do?


Many ppl fail to understand the scientific implications of research like this.
Thanks to GMO's we can get a whole new set of medicines. It's already started with the first FDA-approved drug, taken from genetically engineered plants.
(The drug, called Elelyso, is a treatment for a disorder known as Gaucher disease that results from the lack of a specific enzyme.)



Try to think outside of the box instead of following the conservative crowd condamning everything without understanding it.

[Insaniac]

Cow's would still produce healthy milk, had their grass/plants not been poisoned by pesticides and all that other nasty, unnecessary, man-made poison.

Man causes Cow's to produce unhealthy milk, then goes on to make his own poor attempt to make Cow's once again produce healthy milk. Idiotic and redundant.

Leave nature alone.

[Render]

Insaniac, on 18 June 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

Cow's would still produce healthy milk, had their grass/plants not been poisoned by pesticides and all that other nasty, unnecessary, man-made poison.

Man causes Cow's to produce unhealthy milk, then goes on to make his own poor attempt to make Cow's once again produce healthy milk. Idiotic and redundant.

Leave nature alone.

Wow it's been less than an hour ago that i've metioned that ppl just don't seem to understand and just condamn. And here were are with yet another post of someone who does not understand.

have you even read the article?

it's not because of pesitcides that ppl became lactose intolerant lol.
And it's not because of pesticides that milk doesn't contain omega 3.

Cow's don't produce unhealthy milk, that's not what they are saying at all. They're saying they could make lactose intolerant ppl benefit from milk just like everyone else.
And they're saying they could add omega 3 to the already healthy milk. Just like they add more calcium to some brands of milk. Or more magnesium to cereals etc.


It's obvious to me that the mainstream of ppl who are against all of this are inable to read and/or to understand what this science is about.

[Insaniac]

Render, on 18 June 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Wow it's been less than an hour ago that i've metioned that ppl just don't seem to understand and just condamn. And here were are with yet another post of someone who does not understand.

have you even read the article?

it's not because of pesitcides that ppl became lactose intolerant lol.
And it's not because of pesticides that milk doesn't contain omega 3.

Cow's don't produce unhealthy milk, that's not what they are saying at all. They're saying they could make lactose intolerant ppl benefit from milk just like everyone else.
And they're saying they could add omega 3 to the already healthy milk. Just like they add more calcium to some brands of milk. Or more magnesium to cereals etc.


It's obvious to me that the mainstream of ppl who are against all of this are inable to read and/or to understand what this science is about.

Sorry for the confusion, Render.

I didn't read the atricle, no. I'm just fed up with the state of the world & wanted to vent. It just seems as if overall, concerning nature, everything keeps getting altered. From GMO crops, genetically modified food and now milk.

Just stop modifying things and leave nature to be natural.

Edited by Insaniac, 18 June 2012 - 10:09 AM.

[DarkMatterDisturbance]

What's to understand? For a good majority of people, genetically modified is an automatic turn off switch.

[behaviour???]

I think its not definitely the first successful attempt? I remember reading about a cow that produced milk containing 1.24g/L lactalbumin, that is considered to be healthy milk.

[Darkwind]

We don't need a better cow, we just need to feed and rise them better.  Stop the factory farming and go back to real farming. The difference between grass feed beef and factory or feed lot beef is worth the price. Same goes with milk.

[WoIverine]

Bildr, on 17 June 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Comme on! Theirs so easy way to drink ''milk'' whitout lactose;  Soy Milk, Rice Milk, Almond milk etc(most are all FULL of calcium and protein, specialy soy milk).... So to waste time and money to geneticaly alter a cow  for producing humanas drinkable milk, is... in MY opinion, idiotic!!!

Only bad thing about soy milk, if you're a man and you regularly drink it, it kills your testosterone.

[karmakazi]

Render, on 18 June 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

Eating pigs is eating altered pigs...fattening them up like that, it's not natural.
These cows don't know the difference between giving "regular milk" and "adjusted" milk.
This is not animal cruelty, nor idiotic.

Ok, so when that cow gives birth and starts lactating, will its calves be allowed to nurse from it or will they have to be given some other cow's milk because they are genetically predisposed to need lactose?  What if lack of lactose has the effect on them that the presence of lactose has on people?  If calves get the runs, especially in the wild, they are quite unlikely to survive.  So if that were the case, this cow would not be able to reproduce viable calves and feed them, taking away it's natural reproducive ability and right to add to the gene pool.

If that were done to a human, it would be cruel.  Sure, we like to think that altering animals isn't cruel because it allows us to have what we want and still be able to sleep at night.  Sadly, that doesn't make it true.

The ethical thing to do is leave them alone.

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Creating a dogbreed with legs as short as a pickle is animal cruelty. Is that acceptable? Or is GM just easier to call evil, cuz it's trendy to do?

Are you assuming that because someone is against this topic it means they're ok with the way animals are selectively breed for aesthetic traits, or is only doing so to be trendy?  WOW.  Yeah, it's not because of personal or spiritual convictions.  It's just because I want to be part of the hipster crowd.

I believe we should respect life as it evolved and not mess with it.  Honestly, I have a problem with corn since it was selectively bred to be what we know today, producing WAY more food than the plant originally did.  I say leave nature alone... all of it.

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Many ppl fail to understand the scientific implications of research like this.
Thanks to GMO's we can get a whole new set of medicines. It's already started with the first FDA-approved drug, taken from genetically engineered plants.
(The drug, called Elelyso, is a treatment for a disorder known as Gaucher disease that results from the lack of a specific enzyme.)

Call me a monster...and someone probably will... but I don't think it is ok to genetically modify something else in order to relieve people of their suffering.  It's transferring the suffering to another living being, and no matter how much we tell ourselves it's ok to do so, it is not.

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Try to think outside of the box instead of following the conservative crowd condamning everything without understanding it.

Try to think outside of the box before assuming that this planet and all its creatures are here to be bastardized by humans for our own benefit and convenience.

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Render, on 18 June 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Cow's don't produce unhealthy milk, that's not what they are saying at all. They're saying they could make lactose intolerant ppl benefit from milk just like everyone else.
And they're saying they could add omega 3 to the already healthy milk. Just like they add more calcium to some brands of milk. Or more magnesium to cereals etc.

Humans did not evolve to consume milk beyond a young age... so why push those whose ancestors didn't adapt to it to be able to consume it?  Probably because the dairy industry would like to make more money.

The calcium, vitamin D, magnesium, iron, etc that is added to foods is added after the fact.  They should add the omega 3 to the milk after it's out of the cow... why is it necessary to make the cow an omega 3 factory?  Oh right, because it's more convenient.

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It's obvious to me that the mainstream of ppl who are against all of this are inable to read and/or to understand what this science is about.

You know what they say about making assumptions.


Really it's as simple as this... everything evolved to be the way it is, and we shouldn't tweak everything we get our hands on to make it EASIER for our society.

Manipulating the genes, physical body, or living conditions of any animal is cruel.  I have no problem with eating meat, but the animals should be treated with respect.  They give their lives to sustain ours, and we just demand more and more and more of them.