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#16    Celumnaz

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 06:52 PM

lol yeah Nxt, gotta watch what ya say!  Only an idiot would believe it, and those certain idiots he's pandering to happen to be paralized, it's sick.


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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Nxt2Hvn @ Oct 13 2004, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Oct 13 2004, 07:04 PM)
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Giving false hope to paralized idiots everywhere


Excuse me?  huh.gif

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I am sure that he didn't mean that "Paralyzed people" are idiots... he meant that "Kerry Supporters" are idiots... just these certain Kerry supportes are paralyzed..... whistling2.gif

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Considering that approximately one half of the voting population is supporting Kerry, I think that you might want to revise your statement a tad bit...


Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Oct 13 2004, 08:03 PM)
QUOTE(Nxt2Hvn @ Oct 13 2004, 11:51 AM)
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Oct 13 2004, 07:04 PM)
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Giving false hope to paralized idiots everywhere


Excuse me?  huh.gif

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I am sure that he didn't mean that "Paralyzed people" are idiots... he meant that "Kerry Supporters" are idiots... just these certain Kerry supportes are paralyzed..... whistling2.gif

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Considering that approximately one half of the voting population is supporting Kerry, I think that you might want to revise your statement a tad bit...

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Mmmmmm... 1/2 half... really???

Nah... i will keep my statement as is!  thumbsup.gif

Especially .. since I am in the non-idiot half of the population .... that is voting for Bush!!!  whistling2.gif

Edited by Nxt2Hvn, 13 October 2004 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:11 PM

That was the past, most people aren't the same as before.

Is it me or is this election under-rated?  I'd rate it an R.  It's really twisted.  How far will they go to slap each other in the face.... What are they going to poke fun at each others kiddy pictures next?

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:52 PM

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he meant that "Kerry Supporters" are idiots


If the half of the population which vote for the other party are idiots and only sane people vote Bush, why not just form a one party state dictatorship? I mean, if there are only two parties which can get into power, and one is so bad and relies on the stupid to get it into power, then surely it would be best to say 'to h*ll with freedom of speech and voting rights, choice of leadership and all that' and just make the 'smart people's party' the only party. I mean if 'idiots' can vote in a stupid person's party, it kind shows democracy doesn't work. Then you wont have to worry about idiots voting in the wrong party, because your leaders will be picked for you by ‘smart’ party.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE(Talon S. @ Oct 13 2004, 08:52 PM)
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he meant that "Kerry Supporters" are idiots


If the half of the population which vote for the other party are idiots and only sane people vote Bush, why not just form a one party state dictatorship? I mean, if there are only two parties which can get into power, and one is so bad and relies on the stupid to get it into power, then surely it would be best to say 'to h*ll with freedom of speech and voting rights, choice of leadership and all that' and just make the 'smart people's party' the only party. I mean if 'idiots' can vote in a stupid person's party, it kind shows democracy doesn't work. Then you wont have to worry about idiots voting in the wrong party, because your leaders will be picked for you by ‘smart’ party.

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Of course.... that statement I made that people that vote for Kerry are idiots... is "My Opinion"....which I am entitled to have!  thumbsup.gif  cool.gif  whistling2.gif

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:05 PM

Right now, we have one guy saying one thing. Then the other guy says something else. Who to believe? Lemme see; have I got this straight?

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists- good...
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good...
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Economy on upswing under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good...
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam turned over for trial - bad...

Ahh, it's so confusing!

Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes the average tax burden on Americans, and then calculates the "Tax Freedom Day". This is the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the government. This year, tax freedom day was April 11th. That's the earliest it has been since 1991. It's latest day ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000. Notice anything special about those dates?

Recently, John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the tax cuts. He gave no explanation and provided no data for this claim.

Another interesting fact: Both George Bush and John Kerry are wealthy men. Bush owns only one home, his ranch in Texas. Kerry owns 4 mansions, all worth several million dollars. (His ski resort home in Idaho is an old barn brought over from Europe in pieces. Not your average A-frame). Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid $90,000. Does that sound right? The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has figured out a way to avoid paying his own.

Just something else to think about, fuel for the fire!!!!


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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:09 PM

Fight facts with facts I always say!!  

GREAT POST  twpdyp !!!!   thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif


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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:20 PM

Why should you care how "Jeremiah Denton" feels about John Kerry? First, let's make certain we know exactly who Jeremiah Denton is, because in our world today, Americans who have given so much for their country .... are often "unknown".

Who Is Jeremiah Denton?

In 1973, Jeremiah A. Denton, Jr. walked off an Air Force C-141 aircraft to freedom after being held captive in North Vietnam for more than seven years.

Born in 1924 in Mobile Alabama, Denton graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1946.

In June 1965, he was assigned to Attack Squadron 75 on the USS Independence flying the Grumman A-6 Intruder.

On 18 July 1965, while pulling up after leading a bombing attack on enemy installations near Thanh Hoa, he was shot down and captured by North Vietnamese troops.

While held prisoner, Denton became the first American subjected to four years of solitary confinement. In 1966, during a television interview by the North Vietnamese and broadcast on American television, Denton gained national attention when, while being questioned, he blinked his eyes in Morse code, repeatedly spelling out the covert message "T-O-R-T-U-R-E". During his captivity he frequently served as the senior American military officer in numerous camps in and around Hanoi.

On 12 February 1973, Denton was released and promoted to rear admirall in April 1973. In 1976 Denton's Vietnam experience was chronicled in the book When Hell Was in Session, and in an NBC movie of the same title, which won the 1979 Peabody Award. In
1979 Denton retired from the Navy as Commandant of the Armed Forces Staff College and returned to Mobile, Alabama.

During his 34 years of military service, he received numerous awards and honors, to include:
* the Navy Cross,
* Three Silver Stars,
* The Distinguished Flying Cross, and
* Two Purple Hearts.

In November 1980, Denton became the first retired flag officer ever elected to the U.S. Senate. Some of his major committee assignments included: the Judiciary Committee, the Armed Services Committee, and the Veterans Affairs Committee.

In 1983, Denton founded the National Forum Foundation Dedicated to the concept of One Nation under God, the institution of the family, welfare reform, and peacekeeping and humanitarian affairs.

In 1987, he was appointed by President Ronald Reagan to be Chairman of the Presidential Commission on Merchant Marine and Defense.

Among many other legislative accomplishments, Denton established the highly acclaimed international aid program known as The Denton Program, responsible for transporting over 20 million pounds of critical equipment and supplies to needy people throughout the world. Denton currently serves as President of the National Forum Foundation and lectures on national and international affairs.

He and his wife Jane reside in Mobile, Alabama. They have 7 children and 15 grandchildren.


Who is John Kerry?

03/09/04 By JEREMIAH DENTON
(Rear Admiral, US Navy, Retired)
(Former POW) Special to the Register

Knowing that I served in the U.S. Senate with John Kerry and that, like him, I am a veteran of the Vietnam War, many people have asked me what I think of him, particularly now that he's the apparent presidential nominee of the Democratic Party.

When Kerry joined me in the Senate, I already knew about his record of defamatory remarks and behavior criticizing U.S. policy in Vietnam and the conduct of our military personnel there. I had learned in North Vietnamese prisons how much harm such statements caused.

To me, his remarks and behavior amounted to giving aid and comfort to our Vietnamese and Soviet enemies. So I was not surprised when his subsequent overall voting pattern in the Senate was consistently detrimental to our national security. Considering his demonstrated popularity during the Democratic primaries, I earnestly hope the American people will soberly consider Kerry's qualifications for the presidency in light of his position and record on both our cultural war at home and on national security issues.

To put it bluntly, John Kerry exemplifies the very reasons that I switched to the Republican Party. Like the majority in his political party, he has proven by his words and actions that his list of priorities ... his ideas on what most needs to be done to improve this country ... are almost opposite to my own. Here are two issue areas that I consider top priorities: the war over the soul of America, and national security.

Top priority should be placed on an effort to recover our most fundamental founding belief that our national objectives, policies and laws should reflect obedience to the will of Almighty God. Our Declaration of Independence, our national Constitution and each of the states' constitutions stress that basic American national principle. For about 200 years, the entire country, both parties and all branches of government understood that principle and tried to follow it ... if imperfectly.

For some 50 years, our nation's opinion-makers, our courts and, gradually, our politicians have been abandoning our historical effort to be "one nation under God" in favor of becoming "one nation without God," with glaringly unfavorable results.

I believe our political leaders, educational system, parents and opinion-makers must all return to teaching the truth most emphasized by our Founding Fathers. George Washington called religious belief indispensable to the prosperity of our democracy. William Penn said, "Men must choose to be governed by God or condemn themselves to be ruled by tyrants." And when asked what caused the Civil War, President Lincoln said, "We have forgotten God."

In these days we have not only forgotten God, we are by our new standards of government and culture rejecting him as the acknowledged creator and as the endower of our rights. As a result, we are suffering cultural decay and human unhappiness. The decline of the institution of the family is the most obvious result. Perhaps the current movie, "The Passion of the Christ," will help many to come to realize the cost of the redemption of our sins, and the destructiveness of sin.

Let's remember that over 95 percent of Americans during our founding days were Christians, and though our Founding Fathers stipulated that no one was to be compelled to believe in any religion, and also stipulated that there would be no single Christian denomination installed as a national religion, there was no question that our laws were to be firmly based on the Judean Ten Commandments and on Christ's mandate to love your neighbor as you love yourself. That setup brought us amazing success as a nation, lifting us from our humble beginnings, through crisis after crisis, to become the leading nation of the world.

Now, though, we are throwing away the very source of our strength and greatness. Yet I am not giving up on our country. I am encouraged at the stand and the attitude of our president, and inspired by his courage. There are many more of his stripe in Washington now. Though Rome and other empires have decayed and fallen, the cultural war in the United States can and should be won by the majority of Americans ... a majority to whom Kerry and the Democrats disdainfully refer to as the "far right." They are people who believe in God and in the original concept of "one nation under God."

As a nation, we are now at the point of no return. The GOOD GUYS are finally angry enough to join the fray, and I pray we are not too late. John Kerry is not among the good guys.

The Democratic Party isn't, either.

Indeed, on the subject of national security, John Kerry epitomizes a fatal weakness in the Democratic Party. During the decisive days of the Cold War, after the Democratic Party changed during the mid-1960s, the party was on the wrong side of every strategic debate on policy regarding Vietnam and the USSR, and is now generally on the wrong side in the war on terrorism.

The truth is that the Cold War was barely won by a narrow margin ... a victory and a margin determined by the political choices made by our government regarding suitable steps to deter Soviet attack and finally win the Cold War. If the U.S. had followed the Democratic Party line, the Cold War would have concluded with the U.S. having to surrender without a fight, or the U.S. would have been defeated in a nuclear war with acceptable losses to the USSR. It was not Johnson and Carter and the Democrats; it was Reagan and Bush, and the Republicans who led us to victory in the Cold War.

And George W. Bush and the Republican majority ... not John Kerry and the Democrats ... can lead us to victory in the war on terrorism.


Jeremiah Denton; Rear Admiral, US Navy, Retired





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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:25 PM

Twpdyp, you better hope Michael Moore does not see your little fact sheet.  He might twist it around and give it to Kerry so he can use it in one of his campaign speeches. laugh.gif


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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:27 PM

That is all Michael Moore is good for is twisting the facts and applying the necessary spin to make himself look good. He is even more dangerous than Oliver Stone and equally misinformed...

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:34 PM

Correct!





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