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[shaddow134]

pallidin, on 26 November 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

I thought that the hair follicles(the bulbing hair root) are needed for DNA. Not just hair.

you are indeed correct.


http://scienceonstag...airDNATest.html

[JGirl]

i think that's enough already about bigfoot
there are no such creatures. if there were we would have found them by now. we have been pretty much everywhere that they would supposedly inhabit.
why are people so gullible?

[PersonFromPorlock]

Jeffertonturner, on 24 November 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

Bullsheet.

I must disagree. It's boolsheet.

[QuiteContrary]

Lava_Lady, on 26 November 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

I want to keep the mystery of Sasquatch alive!  I love the thought that there could be an unknown species amongst us.  I don't care what anyone says, it's an entertaining enigma that I want to read, watch documentaries about, & see vague, blurry pictures of!!

I joined this forum to be in touch with the most updated news of the unexplained mystery type and I expected some heathy skepticism but seems like no one shares my love of the "possibility" of anything...  :'(

Anyone that expresses belief gets heckled and made fun of... ~ sigh ~    guess it's the nature of the game.  I'm ready... Let em fly.

Also, I'm very aware there are tons of hoaxers that basically ruined out for everyone.  I'm just wishing we could say maybe.

I'd love to run into one, on a dark  night, in the woods. Or, even a Burger King parking lot.

But he keeps letting me down. It's like getting stood up repeatedly on a date.
After years you get sick and tired of it and for some of us a bit bchy

[keninsc]

Those are called stalker......not the same thing really.

[DieChecker]

I for one want to see what it is they supposedly have that can be Verified. What will get through Peer Review?

A google search turns up some other Fringy sites that have picked up the story. No big news outlets yet.
http://doubtfulnews....thout-the-data/

http://www.bigfootlu...trigued-by.html

[Lava_Lady]

QuiteContrary, on 27 November 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:

I'd love to run into one, on a dark  night, in the woods. Or, even a Burger King parking lot.

But he keeps letting me down. It's like getting stood up repeatedly on a date.
After years you get sick and tired of it and for some of us a bit bchy

I can understand that.  I often feel that same sense of disappointment after looking at photos/videos of Sasquatch that some idiot had obviously faked but in the long run I have had a lot of fun wondering if it's real, analyzing photos/videos and making fun of testimonies from the crazy ones.

[QuiteContrary]

keninsc, on 27 November 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

Those are called stalker......not the same thing really.

Sasquatch stalking people through the woods at night are some  of my favorite reports to read.

[keninsc]

Well, let me tell you Missy. When you get hauled up in front of a Judge with no sense of humor about stalking.................

Ok, maybe I've said too much.

[FurthurBB]

Socio, on 24 November 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

Spotted this however the announcement does not include any scientific data which would make it more convincing.

http://www.cryptomun...atch-dna-study/

If you read just the press releases, which is all we have right now, it seems to me that Dr. Ketchum (really?) is not going for the most parsimonious anwser which is that he has a human sample that was contaminated with animal DNA because it was found in the wilderness.

[FurthurBB]

Lilly, on 24 November 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

More like, Bigfootsheet.

Let's face it, just saying you have Bigfoot DNA is really no different than saying you have a Bigfoot body in a freezer...and we all know how that one turned out.

Well, this sample was collected by some well known bigfoot hunter who sent it to three independent labs for testing.  I do not think the sample origin is in question and it appears that the person who collected it believes it to be from bigfoot.  The problem is that the mitochondrial DNA is completely modern human and the nuclear DNA is part human and part unknown animal.  To say it was actually hybrid they would need to exclude all possible contamination and identify the unknown DNA.  Since mtDNA is easy to get from hair and I am assuming this is a hair sample and nuDNA degrades quickly in hair, the most obvious answer is that this is a sample of human hair.  I am curious to see what the other labs have to say.  It seems extremely unlikely to me that a modern human woman mated with an unknown primate male sometime after the time of neanderthals and produced a fertile offspring that has been roaming the forests of North America ever since.

[FurthurBB]

pallidin, on 26 November 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

I thought that the hair follicles(the bulbing hair root) are needed for DNA. Not just hair.

It is needed to get good nuDNA, but not good mtDNA.

[cormac mac airt]

Wearer of Hats, on 25 November 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I read somewhere that on average, the average human has 4% Neanderthal DNA. How can we tell that it's Neanderthal and not Human in this case? And could this "it's human and a bit of something else" DNA just be a human with a disproportionately high amount of Neanderthal DNA?

The average non-African modern human has from 1% to 4% Neanderthal DNA. Keep in mind though that since both lines, Neanderthal and AMH (anatomically modern human - us) are members of the genus Homo that they are BOTH human. As to how can it be known if the sample is Neanderthal and not AMH, Neanderthal mitochondrial DNA differs significantly from ours.

cormac

[Rafterman]

Dr. Steve Novella's take on the "discovery":

http://theness.com/n...hp/bigfoot-dna/

His conclusion:

The bottom line is this – human DNA plus some anomalies or unknowns does not equal an impossible human-ape hybrid. It equals human DNA plus some anomalies.

[sean6]

DieChecker, on 27 November 2012 - 04:14 AM, said:

I for one want to see what it is they supposedly have that can be Verified. What will get through Peer Review?

A google search turns up some other Fringy sites that have picked up the story. No big news outlets yet.
http://doubtfulnews....thout-the-data/

http://www.bigfootlu...trigued-by.html

here you go , its all over the news now lol

'Bigfoot' is part human, DNA study claims

http://www.foxnews.c...a-study-claims/