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US Village Bans Rottweilers And Pit Bulls


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A village in the United States has banned the ownership of two dog breeds that it deems to be particularly dangerous.

Moreauville, in Louisiana, has declared that anyone with a pit bull or a Rottweiler needs to get rid of it (presumably by re-homing) before December 1 or they risk having the dog impounded and potentially put down.

https://uk.lifestyle...14828.html?vp=1

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Why not just insist on a training and an assessment and evaluation course? I say its down the the owners, so all owners should be licensed after intense training and evaluation to own one of those dogs......but saying that, the same is required for car drivers, and we know there are more dangerous car drivers out there than dangerous dogs.

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A village in the US has the legal empowerment for this?

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A village in the US has the legal empowerment for this?

Until overturned by a County/State Court (or higer)... yes..

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it wont be overturned, and i'll let you in on a little secret, you can still have your pit, even in places that officially ban them.

these pits\rots bans are in reality target certain group of people that usually assosiated having such dogs, and who invest 0 time in their training. and little consideration of people around them. if it was about dagerous breeds, than you'd see dobermans, akitas, bull terriers, stuffs...,..

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The owner's are usually the problem when dogs become overly aggressive. Shame they banned those breeds. The media's just as bad in getting breeds like this banned.

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Our Shetland Sheepdog had an instinctive behavior to herd. We never taught him this. He would herd the lawnmower, he would herd other dogs, he would herd us. It's a behavior that was obviously bred into him. Why wouldn't aggressive behaviors work similarly?

Not that I support banning Pit Bulls, I just want the straight dope on this phenomenon to set my expectations accordingly. Statistically, relative to other dogs, pit bulls are extremely dangerous. While people should have a right to get whatever dog they choose, some extra precautions with known aggressive breeds might be prudent.

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I'd just pass a law requiring all dogs to be kept indoors and to be walked with leash and muzzle. Let's see how precious those five pitbulls in the pen in the backyard are to them, then.

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I'd just pass a law requiring all dogs to be kept indoors and to be walked with leash and muzzle. Let's see how precious those five pitbulls in the pen in the backyard are to them, then.

I'm afraid I can't do that Dave

My dog is a little human! :D

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Our Shetland Sheepdog had an instinctive behavior to herd. We never taught him this. He would herd the lawnmower, he would herd other dogs, he would herd us. It's a behavior that was obviously bred into him. Why wouldn't aggressive behaviors work similarly?

Not that I support banning Pit Bulls, I just want the straight dope on this phenomenon to set my expectations accordingly. Statistically, relative to other dogs, pit bulls are extremely dangerous. While people should have a right to get whatever dog they choose, some extra precautions with known aggressive breeds might be prudent.

Pits are extremely strong dogs, particularly jaw strength.. Once they clamp down, it's hard to get them to let go... As others have said, it's not so much the dog as the owner, and unfortunately, the dogs reputation is such that

certain types of owners will encourage/train them to be aggressive... Same (to a lesser degree) with doberman's... Dobie's just look mean!.. .So to some types of owners, they expect and train them to be mean...

It has gotten to the point (in public and media perception) that I would not be surprised if the two breeds are eventually "bred" out of existance... By that I mean NO breeding, let them die out naturally... Is this fair?. No... But

since when has public perception, or the media's focus ever been fair...

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I'm afraid I can't do that Dave

My dog is a little human! :D

You're just going leave him in the pen in the backyard? What's his name? Cool Hand Luke? What we have here, is a failure...to communicate.
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Pits are extremely strong dogs, particularly jaw strength.. Once they clamp down, it's hard to get them to let go... As others have said, it's not so much the dog as the owner, and unfortunately, the dogs reputation is such that

certain types of owners will encourage/train them to be aggressive... Same (to a lesser degree) with doberman's... Dobie's just look mean!.. .So to some types of owners, they expect and train them to be mean...

It has gotten to the point (in public and media perception) that I would not be surprised if the two breeds are eventually "bred" out of existance... By that I mean NO breeding, let them die out naturally... Is this fair?. No... But

since when has public perception, or the media's focus ever been fair...

Yet I think there's a public perception that empathizes with these dogs and they're chosen as pets, and that might be spiking the accidents rate as much as anything.

I'm still not sure as to the cause of the violent behavior and I think again to my dog. It's possible my dog learned the behavior from his mother in the first eight weeks of his life. She was herding her pups which would serve a purpose of protecting them all. So he could have learned it from her. How many of these pitbulls, even if you get them at eight or ten weeks old, have been mistreated by their breeder, their mother is a nervous wreck, the pups are taught to fear. This might make an edgy animal who's prone to snap.

All I know is, I think there's been way more than enough breeding already, and by extension of that - breeding-oriented solutions to this issue. ;)

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You're just going leave him in the pen in the backyard? What's his name? Cool Hand Luke? What we have here, is a failure...to communicate.

It's not a choice between inside and outside. It's both.

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It's not a choice between inside and outside. It's both.

Whatever's legal where you are is fine with me. I was quite attached to my black labrador, and he always rode shotgun.
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Well when they started training them to go for the throats ~ inevitable really ~

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you'll never breed out pits, or rots. too many backyard breeders are breeding them, without any knowledge in breeding, or any standarts whatsoever, agressive\mentaly unstable dogs are bred everyday, and as a result puppies are just as argessive and mentaly unstable. than they too breed, and that circle continues. truth is there are many such breeders, for breeds that are in demand. not just pits, but also yorkies, shitsu, .... but since they are small, not many care about their aggressive behavior.

that is why i'm not crazy about adopting pets from shelters, you never know what you getting. with reputable breeder at least you know you are not getting a puppy from agressive and mental parents. but pits from such breeders can cost above 1k.

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We bred these into existence, we can stop breeding and they will over time no longer exist - this is not the same as trying to save a biodiversity that came by natural selection in the wild. It is a human made problem and it might be time we rectified it.

I don't agree with existing pets having to be re-housed though, there needs to be exemptions for existing pets, including a behavioural examination and mandatory spaying.

It cannot be fair to the owners who have an emotional bond to their pet, yet have lived in this town in a permanent residence for most of their lives to have to suddenly give up their home or their pet.

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lol, no you can not breed them out of existance, not we need to. sorry but i can not see a realistic, productive way of doing it,(feel free to show me example proving me wrong) , you can make laws making unlisenced breeding illegal, but we all know how that will work out. no need to have a cristal ball.

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utter stupidity. I can name twenty dogs more dangerous than Pits and Rotties. All of the Caucasian breeds are more physically powerful , fearless and aggressive than these two.

Plus this is nearly 100% individual temperment. Pits are actually very often more inclined to be lap dogs. Rots have a kill instinct with small animals but terriers are far worse there. You have to work a Pit into being aggressive. Rotties are territorial.

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Most of the time the owner is the problem, and as mentioned in the thread this is probably who the ban is aimed at. Some people enjoy posing with 'aggressive' dogs, there is a similar problem here in the UK.

Great points on the circle of breeding and types of breeders too aztec. :tu:

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There is no such thing as bad dog breeds,only bad owners!

My Rott Brutus is the best dog i have ever had!Smart,loyal,and protective these traits are what make them mans best friend.

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Our Shetland Sheepdog had an instinctive behavior to herd. We never taught him this. He would herd the lawnmower, he would herd other dogs, he would herd us. It's a behavior that was obviously bred into him. Why wouldn't aggressive behaviors work similarly?

Not that I support banning Pit Bulls, I just want the straight dope on this phenomenon to set my expectations accordingly. Statistically, relative to other dogs, pit bulls are extremely dangerous. While people should have a right to get whatever dog they choose, some extra precautions with known aggressive breeds might be prudent.

Misinformation.

Neither of these breeds is inherently aggressive, the way Shelties are inherent herders. We have had at least 13 Rotties over the last 22 years (permanent residents, short- and long-term fosters, rescues, pups purchased at 7 weeks, I've lost count). A number had been HORRIBLY treated by previous owners, starved, beaten, etc., and their inherent nature is so stable that all recovered to become loving and well-loved family dogs with the right training, patience, consistency, etc. They were bred to guard, not attack; to pull butcher carts; and this might surprise you--to herd. Yes, the AKC has them eligible for herding events.

We are close friends with people who routinely do Pittie rescue, and likewise they are generally so inherently stable they recover from all kinds of abuse to become loving family dogs. Don't believe me? Google some of the stories of redemption that came out of the rescues from the dog-fighting operation run by Michael Vick. And just last night I got a big, sloppy wet kiss at dog school from a rescue Pit Bull. Guess I should have been scared of her inherent aggression, but I wasn't. These dogs were originally bred in part as nursemaid dogs. You can find scads of old photos on the web of bull terrier types watching over, not eating, toddlers.

Sorry for the sarcasm. I don't mean to be sarcastic, but I grow so tired of these myths. And my apologies if I'm repeating information. Haven't read the whole thread, but had to respond to this post.

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utter stupidity. I can name twenty dogs more dangerous than Pits and Rotties. All of the Caucasian breeds are more physically powerful , fearless and aggressive than these two.

Plus this is nearly 100% individual temperment. Pits are actually very often more inclined to be lap dogs. Rots have a kill instinct with small animals but terriers are far worse there. You have to work a Pit into being aggressive. Rotties are territorial.

Today, Cocker Spaniels are probably as a breed more dangerous to have around your kid than a well-trained Rottie. And I say this having grown up with and having loved a Cocker, having now a good friend with some very stable Cockers. But the breed is kind of a mess, or at least had gotten that way for a while some years ago. Not sure if breeders have gotten temperament back under control.

And BTW, that's one very good argument for NOT eradicating the breeder dedicated to keeping the breed going, the one who belongs to the National Breed Club, who signs and adheres to the Code of Ethics, who carefully screens puppy buyers, who breeds to eliminate genetic health and temperament problems, who strives to improve the breed, who requires a take-back clause in their puppy contract, who requires a spay/neuter clause for their non-show quality pups, who maintains a relationship with their puppy buyers for the life of the dog....

Though we do a lot of rescue, we've had our share of purchased puppies as well. In 2013, we lost a 15- year-old terrier whose breeder had been with us every step of the way through his life and career as a performance dog. She cheered his many successes and literally sobbed with me when he died. Last spring one of our young Rottweilers debuted in her performance career, and **her** breeder was at ringside thrilled as she took first place both days of competition. My point? Wonderful breeders dedicated to selectively breeding small numbers of good dogs to place in good hands are out there. I never want to see these people or the dogs they produce eradicated.

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What an abominable way to treat not only the animals but residents of their own village... get rid of your beloved family pet or we'll imprison or kill it!

How about taking owners to task over control of their pets? It's not rocket science...

Hopefully the story of the young disabled girl will raise enough public interest to stop the moronic rule makers in their tracks.

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Based off the article.. I have to wonder if it's a couple of particular pitt and rott owners that are the problem, or something along those lines. I mean, if some folks are worried about being in certain areas because of dogs, it might be those particular dog owners/areas rather than problems with the breeds in general. And the village is enacting a general ban based off a small problem rather than dealing with that small problem.

Never had a pitt, but had a rott pup for a while. He was dangerous as hell- to my shoes, expensive intimate apparel (he had good taste, wouldn't touch the cheap stuff), and any plastic bottle he could get his jaws on. Once he got a bowling ball to lock on to, that all was solved :) And he was the sweetest thing to my cats, he tried his dardnest to be a mom to them, much to their dismay, lol. I guess I might freak too if a critter with a tongue bigger than my head wanted to clean my ears, lol.

It makes me sad and mad as hades that some crappy humans have handled their dogs in a way that makes other humans not want those animals around anymore. Perhaps a ban on those folks being dog owners would be more in order than banning the dogs.

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