AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:
Says who? The way I see it is, Christ came to save humans and therefore instructed us how to be saved. Besides, no matter what fate animals have, it's not like we can change it anyways...
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Do Animals go to Heaven?
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Started by AquilaChrysaetos , Jan 12 2013 01:03 AM
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:11 AM
Well someone taught me how to save my garden getting filled up with dog pooh, thought it would apply where ever he came with me. Its not that bad, a pair a gloves and a pooh bag is a very small sacrifice to pay to have him with you forever.
In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:17 AM
freetoroam, on 12 January 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:
Well someone taught me how to save my garden getting filled up with dog pooh, thought it would apply where ever he came with me. Its not that bad, a pair a gloves and a pooh bag is a very small sacrifice to pay to have him with you forever.
even if its a very good point 
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:18 AM
freetoroam, on 12 January 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:
Well someone taught me how to save my garden getting filled up with dog pooh, thought it would apply where ever he came with me. Its not that bad, a pair a gloves and a pooh bag is a very small sacrifice to pay to have him with you forever.
The reason I don't care for having pets isn't just because I don't like to clean up poo... I just happen to find our time in this life short and would rather spend that time being with and attempting to help humans as opposed to animals. It's not like I wanted my dog to die just because he pooped...
Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:21 AM
AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:
The reason I don't care for having pets isn't just because I don't like to clean up poo... I just happen to find our time in this life short and would rather spend that time being with and attempting to help humans as opposed to animals. It's not like I wanted my dog to die just because he pooped...
Our time in life is short, but its still a whole long longer than our pets.
In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:25 AM
freetoroam, on 12 January 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:
Well someone taught me how to save my garden getting filled up with dog pooh, thought it would apply where ever he came with me. Its not that bad, a pair a gloves and a pooh bag is a very small sacrifice to pay to have him with you forever.
AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:
The reason I don't care for having pets isn't just because I don't like to clean up poo... I just happen to find our time in this life short and would rather spend that time being with and attempting to help humans as opposed to animals. It's not like I wanted my dog to die just because he pooped...
Did it ever occur to any of you that the bodies of the beings in heaven animal and human alike may not be subject to something as base and material as "pooping"
Edited by libstaK, 12 January 2013 - 02:37 AM.
"I warn you, whoever you are, oh you who wish to probe the arcanes of nature, if you do not find within yourself that which you seek, neither shall you find it outside.
If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
In you is hidden the treasure of treasures, Oh man, know thyself and you shall know the Universe and the Gods."
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If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
In you is hidden the treasure of treasures, Oh man, know thyself and you shall know the Universe and the Gods."
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:26 AM
freetoroam, on 12 January 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:
Thats were we differ, I would help animals first. But that does not mean I would not help a human........... just an animal first.
Our time in life is short, but its still a whole long longer than our pets.
Our time in life is short, but its still a whole long longer than our pets.
Well, most of that's due to my spiritual views. If humans have immortal souls and Christ explains how to save them, then I'll spend my time doing that as opposed to helping animals that may or may not even go to heaven (thus the genesis of the thread) and even if they did there's nothing I could do about it. Completely different perspectives.
Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:30 AM
libstaK, on 12 January 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:
Did it ever occurred to any of you that the bodies of the being in heaven animal and human alike may not be subject to something as base and material as "pooping"
Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:35 AM
libstaK, on 12 January 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:
Did it ever occurred to any of you that the bodies of the being in heaven animal and human alike may not be subject to something as base and material as "pooping"
would keep AquilaChrysaetos from trying to get me to do it.
In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:38 AM
AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:
"I warn you, whoever you are, oh you who wish to probe the arcanes of nature, if you do not find within yourself that which you seek, neither shall you find it outside.
If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
In you is hidden the treasure of treasures, Oh man, know thyself and you shall know the Universe and the Gods."
Inscription - Temple of Delphi
If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
In you is hidden the treasure of treasures, Oh man, know thyself and you shall know the Universe and the Gods."
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:41 AM
freetoroam, on 12 January 2013 - 02:35 AM, said:
Nope! but thats a good thought. would keep AquilaChrysaetos from trying to get me to do it.
would keep AquilaChrysaetos from trying to get me to do it.Scenario: I'm in heaven experiencing a neverending state of absolute blissful paradise, and so are you.
Therefore, why the **** would want to try and get you to poop!?!?
Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:41 AM
AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:
your picture is poop.
In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:44 AM
Why are we discussing ghost poop in an animals thread anyway!?!?
Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:45 AM
AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:
Scenario: I'm in heaven experiencing a neverending state of absolute blissful paradise, and so are you.
Therefore, why the **** would want to try and get you to poop!?!?
Therefore, why the **** would want to try and get you to poop!?!?
Not me to poop....you to try and get me to clean up your dogs poop while you are in your blissful state in paradise....but seems libstaK has solved that problem for us...no one is going to be pooping up there.
FCOL....i am not even religious!!
AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:
Why are we discussing ghost poop in an animals thread anyway!?!?
In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:53 AM
AquilaChrysaetos, on 12 January 2013 - 01:03 AM, said:
There may already be a thread about this, but if not I'm just curious as to your thoughts on the matter...
(and to all non-believers, please refrain from smart aleck comments like "no because there is no heaven." Besides, my target audience are my fellow Christians after all...)
(and to all non-believers, please refrain from smart aleck comments like "no because there is no heaven." Besides, my target audience are my fellow Christians after all...)
A few books I all ways recommend to people on a pet loss chat site I volunteer in.
Cold Noses at the pearly gates :
There are no words that can fill the emptiness we feel with the loss of a precious companion pet. Their unconditional love and devotion are missed as much as their splendid and unique personality. But we can replace the grief with joyful anticipation and hope, if we understand that there is a plan for them. The words of this book are offered to guide you to that place. You may begin reading as a skeptic, but you will end with a newfound hope and a lot of important things to think about. Gary Kurz, Author
http://coldnosesbook.com/
There are no words that can fill the emptiness we feel with the loss of a precious companion pet. Their unconditional love and devotion are missed as much as their splendid and unique personality. But we can replace the grief with joyful anticipation and hope, if we understand that there is a plan for them. The words of this book are offered to guide you to that place. You may begin reading as a skeptic, but you will end with a newfound hope and a lot of important things to think about. Gary Kurz, Author
Edited by Sakari, 12 January 2013 - 02:54 AM.
I think people have a hard time proving any factual basis for their beliefs so they get defensive and they take any question as a direct challenge instead of just giving it some thought.
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:04 AM
freetoroam, on 12 January 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:
Thats were we differ, I would help animals first. But that does not mean I would not help a human........... just an animal first.
Our time in life is short, but its still a whole long longer than our pets.
Our time in life is short, but its still a whole long longer than our pets.
Same here.....Save a animal before a Human...Humans do not have unconditional love..... ( Hint, see my signature )
I think people have a hard time proving any factual basis for their beliefs so they get defensive and they take any question as a direct challenge instead of just giving it some thought.
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