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[aztek]

WoIverine, on 04 January 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

Ahh, I see. Lance was pretty meticulous about his methods, organizing his shop so that he would have convenient access to his weapons, if needed. He spent a lot of time at the range, and took a few classes I believe as well. He is correct though, his neighbors may have just bought a gun and then possibly would not have done any of the other preparedness things that he did, which would endanger their lives. He did end up getting shot 5 times as well by criminals.

i know of many cases where jewelry stores were robbed, and workers killed.  no body inside resisted,had no guns, and still got killed, two of such victims were someone i knew. they were shot with a shotgun point blank.  now  i want anti gun turds tell me how a gun , if they had it" would made their chances being shot higher.

[aztek]

HerNibs, on 04 January 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

The gummint isn't takin' ar guns.  Not going to happen.  Just a bunch of BS rhetoric will go on and on and on and on...

blah, blah.....

that is what politician that enacted 1994 ban, said in the interview.

“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America turn them all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here,” Feinstein told MRC-TV in a 1995 interview.

so they aren't trying to take guns????  you are delusional. politician SAYS IT OPENLY, HE WANT TO TAKE GUNS AWAY, AND YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.

[HerNibs]

aztek, on 04 January 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

blah, blah.....

that is what politician that enacted 1994 ban, said in the interview.

“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America turn them all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here,” Feinstein told MRC-TV in a 1995 interview.

so they aren't trying to take guns????  you are delusional. politician SAYS IT OPENLY, HE WANT TO TAKE GUNS AWAY, AND YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.

Back off with the name calling.  It only destroys your own credibility.

I didn't say they aren't TRYING to take our guns.  I said IT WON'T happen.

If you're going to debate or discuss with me please carefully read what I say.

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[aztek]

HerNibs, on 04 January 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Back off with the name calling.  It only destroys your own credibility.

lol, creditability does not depend weather you got offended by my post or not.

[questionmark]

HerNibs, on 04 January 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Back off with the name calling.  It only destroys your own credibility.

I didn't say they aren't TRYING to take our guns.  I said IT WON'T happen.

If you're going to debate or discuss with me please carefully read what I say.

Nibs

He will not, after the second sentence he runs out of valid arguments and starts calling you names. I for one ran out of patience with him. Especially on the days he did not take his Prozac.

Edited by questionmark, 04 January 2013 - 08:38 PM.

[HerNibs]

questionmark, on 04 January 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

He will not, after the second sentence he runs out of valid arguments and starts calling you names. I for one ran out of patience with him. Especially on the days he did not take his Prozac.

  Well, he can discuss it with himself.  

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[WoIverine]

You kids play nice now, or I'm gonna have to babysit.

[HerNibs]

WoIverine, on 04 January 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

You kids play nice now, or I'm gonna have to babysit.

Hmmmm..."babysat" by Wolverine...


this is punishment?

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[aztek]

HerNibs, on 04 January 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

  Well, he can discuss it with himself.  

Nibs

deal, put me on ignore list, and i'll do the same for you, right next to your "i know all better' friend.

[WoIverine]

Whoa!! Settle down there raging hormones!  

[HerNibs]

aztek, on 04 January 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

deal, put me on ignore list, and i'll do the same for you, right next to your "i know all better' friend.

I don't use the ignore list.


Now, can we move on to the discussion like adults?

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[WoIverine]

HerNibs, on 04 January 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

Hmmmm..."babysat" by Wolverine...


this is punishment?

Nibs

Whoa!! Settle down there raging hormones!

Aztek, I think the situation is definitely a slippery slope man, something to keep an eye on for sure.

Edited by WoIverine, 04 January 2013 - 08:52 PM.

[HerNibs]

Back to my previous point -

Various politicians can pontificate and demand all they want but American citizens won't have their guns taken from them for a variety of reasons.  

1.  You can't have three politicians in one room that will fully agree with each other on the colors of their ties much less a powder keg issue like this.  Worst case scenario would be some federal laws that would most likely do nothing.  It may be cliche but the citizens that follow all the laws aren't those causing the problems.  

2.  Supreme court challenges based on our Second Amendment rights would keep any law in limbo for ever.

3.  Each state will make their own "amendments" to any law put in place which will only muddy the water more.

Sadly, the solution isn't even being discussed.

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[questionmark]

HerNibs, on 04 January 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Back to my previous point -

Various politicians can pontificate and demand all they want but American citizens won't have their guns taken from them for a variety of reasons.  

1.  You can't have three politicians in one room that will fully agree with each other on the colors of their ties much less a powder keg issue like this.  Worst case scenario would be some federal laws that would most likely do nothing.  It may be cliche but the citizens that follow all the laws aren't those causing the problems.  

2.  Supreme court challenges based on our Second Amendment rights would keep any law in limbo for ever.

3.  Each state will make their own "amendments" to any law put in place which will only muddy the water more.

Sadly, the solution isn't even being discussed.

Nibs

What surely is not the solution is to,as before, ban this or that type of weapon. That leads nowhere, especially if companies can sell modified assault weapons (that anybody not 10 thumbs could reconvert).

The only thing that could work is that there is a central gun register, make any gun not registered there illegal, slap a stiff mandatory sentence on everybody having an illegal gun and make gun owners responsible for the damage their guns do.

Everything else they might as well not bother with. Will lead nowhere.

[HerNibs]

questionmark, on 04 January 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

What surely is not the solution is to,as before, ban this or that type of weapon. That leads nowhere, especially if companies can sell modified assault weapons (that anybody not 10 thumbs could reconvert).

The only thing that could work is that there is a central gun register, make any gun not registered there illegal, slap a stiff mandatory sentence on everybody having an illegal gun and make gun owners responsible for the damage their guns do.

Everything else they might as well not bother with. Will lead nowhere.

Agreed.

I'm a responsible gun owner.  If one of my weapons was used in a crime it would ONLY be because of my negligence.

Nibs