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[Leona Lewis]

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In 1888, the Atchison Daily Globe in Kansas and the Daily Statesman in Texas, among others, drew a connection between what had taken place in the Whitechapel area of London from September through November that year and the unsolved series of murders in Austin three years earlier."A very curious circumstance has been discovered," the article claimed, and went on to say that it was the opinion of many people that the person who had operated in Austin and gotten away before being apprehended was the very same grisly perpetrator as Jack the Ripper.In one case, five women of the lower class were dead and in the other, seven women and one man.

http://www.trutv.com...nt_girl/10.html

I personally believe that this "Malay cook calling himself Maurice" is Jack the Ripper. No doubt in my mind that he is. I know there is abosolutely no evidence that supports this connection, but from the information that I have been reading about the two cases I think the cook was defiantly the murderer.

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The London Times described him in October as a man who had threatened to kill Whitechapel prostitutes but who had then disappeared.

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The serial-murders represent an early example of a serial killer operating in the United States, three years before the Jack the Ripper murders in Whitechapel

http://en.wikipedia....irl_Annihilator

I believe this website will sum it up quite well and gives even more information about "Maurice" than the TrueTv website does:

http://mandyf.wordpr...rl-annihilator/

I don't know if this connection has been posted before...I tried looking it up in the search bar, but nothing popped up. So I was inclined to share.

[wolfknight]

So the Ripper left England. Ended up in Texas. Then the Ripper started killed again. The ripper in England didn't  cut up the victims faces or spread the organs around the crime scene. I believe it is 2 different people. A serial killer doesn't change the way he or her kills.

[WoIverine]

Hasn't the mortician / morgue worker already been found to be the ripper? I remember reading some article about a girl who discovered it. Was pretty recent actually.

Edited by Spid3rCyd3, 10 July 2012 - 02:21 PM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

wolfknight, on 10 July 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

So the Ripper left England. Ended up in Texas. Then the Ripper started killed again. The ripper in England didn't  cut up the victims faces or spread the organs around the crime scene. I believe it is 2 different people. A serial killer doesn't change the way he or her kills.

Jack did spread the ograns around of at least the last victim, and he did "go to town" on her face. Jack's pathology evolved like they talk about on CSI and Crminal Minds.

[Antilles]

Wearer of Hats, on 11 July 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

Jack did spread the ograns around of at least the last victim, and he did "go to town" on her face. Jack's pathology evolved like they talk about on CSI and Crminal Minds.

You're right about the last victim, Mary Kelly but he also cut the face and spread out the organs of his 4th victim, Catherine Eddowes. He lifted out and displayed across her shoulder the intestines of his 2nd victim, Annie Chapman, but he didn't touch her face.
Jack was a one off for his time. He did not go to the US or to South America or to Australia or anywhere else anyone who has a book to sell wants you to believe.

He committed suicide or died incarcerated in prison or an asylum.

[mrmorgan]

did you not hear. according to someone on here. vincent van gogh was jack the ripper ha ha ha

[Likely Guy]

wolfknight, on 10 July 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

So the Ripper left England. Ended up in Texas. Then the Ripper started killed again.

No, the articles said that the Ripper came to England from Austin, Texas.It all seems plausible to me.

[Antilles]

Likely Guy, on 16 July 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:

No, the articles said that the Ripper came to England from Austin, Texas.It all seems plausible to me.

How and why does it seem plausible to you?

[Super-Fly]

Nice, post.

Have to read the links.

Thanks OP.

[JonathanVonErich]

My opinion: It wasn't the same killer. No doubt in my mind.

The Ripper murders bare no resemblance to the Annihilator's "technique". Based on the information we have, when you compare both cases you see that the chances that these crimes were committed by the same killer are very slim. Is it possible for a killer to change his MO/signature ?? Of course. But in this case there's too many differences and not enough similarities, I see no solid connections between the two cases other than the fact both cases happened in the late 1880's.

Even back in 1888 some people tried to link the Ripper murders to the Austin murders. Several newspapers, including the New York World and the Irish Times, drew connections between the two unsolved cases but these connections were mostly based on speculation and wishful thinking.

And mademoiselle I respect your opinion but I don't see how you can be positive about "Maurice". Nothing solid links him to both cases, and the theory that he was working on a ship is based on nothing solid and it seems like a lot of the so-called information about this man was created by one or many of the newspapers I mentioned earlier in this post. Like the Ripper case it's sometimes difficult to know what is the truth about the Annihilator, like the Ripper case it seems like there's a lot of myths about this case and not enough facts. I have over 20 Encyclopedia/Almanac about True Crime/Serial Killers, and the informations about this case is often different from one book to another.

If you want to read more about the Annihilator I recommend The Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes, by Michael Newton.

[HollyDolly]

I don't think they were one and the same. Jack didn't use an axe to kill his victims,also one of the victims was a black male as well. There was an axe murder in Glidden ,Texas, near Austin where a whole family was killed by an axe. You might look up the AxeMan of New Orleans,He killed people in doors,and attacked men and women.Jack only seemd to go after prostitutes.it's possible Jack could have maybe been a sailor or ship's doctor. Recall my dad mentioning the sailor theory and saying something about some similar murders happening in Europe, like in Paris.
We still won't know who jack the Ripper was,a 100 years from now. By the way, James Maybrick was i understand a cotton buyer.A lot of cotton was and still is grown in Texas, but i don't know if he was ever in Austin. Recall once some paranormal investigators in England did some seance.Somehow they contacted  supposedly James Maybrick who declared that he was not jack the Ripper.

[DingoLingo]

I find this more believable then Van Gogh being the ripper..

[Englishgent]

Antilles, on 11 July 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

You're right about the last victim, Mary Kelly but he also cut the face and spread out the organs of his 4th victim, Catherine Eddowes. He lifted out and displayed across her shoulder the intestines of his 2nd victim, Annie Chapman, but he didn't touch her face.
Jack was a one off for his time. He did not go to the US or to South America or to Australia or anywhere else anyone who has a book to sell wants you to believe.

He committed suicide or died incarcerated in prison or an asylum.

And your evidence for this is?

[Antilles]

I'm not trying to sell a book so look it up for yourself and come to your own conclusions.