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#1    Babe Ruth

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:41 PM

http://tinyurl.com/d2janxo


Like most of the mainstream media, BBC has played along nicely in suppressing evidence surrounding the events of 11 September.  Depending on the hearing goes, that suppression and misrepresentation may become quite public.

Once again, it appears the British system is a bit more open to truth than is the american system.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

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Over the last 16 months, BBC has been challenged strongly by individuals in the UK over two documentaries
oh, I bet they're well used to being challenged strongly by obsessive- er, individuals with particular axes to grind. I'm sure this happens many times a year over some issue or other.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:02 PM

I think the key word here is 'impartiality'.
true impartiality is impossible, because subjectively, you can never appease two sets of opposing viewpoints.
I often wonder how members of the Flat Earth Society feel, for instance, when presented with a globe.....
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:04 PM

What truth? Terrorist slammed planes into buildings, film at eleven.

Lots of confusion, lots of panic and a lot of things getting reported before all the facts were in due to everyone trying to scoop everyone else. It's no mystery.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 17 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:


oh, I bet they're well used to being challenged strongly by obsessive- er, individuals with particular axes to grind. I'm sure this happens many times a year over some issue or other.
nice photo of the Tor by the way.....
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:11 PM

View Postkeninsc, on 17 February 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

What truth? Terrorist slammed planes into buildings, film at eleven.

Lots of confusion, lots of panic and a lot of things getting reported before all the facts were in due to everyone trying to scoop everyone else. It's no mystery.
I agree.
the truth is, is that four groups of people, hijacked four aircraft, and flew them into three buildings and one field, in a meticulously planned, carefully orchestrated attack.
occam's razor and all that.....
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:59 PM

View Postshrooma, on 17 February 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

I agree.
the truth is, is that four groups of people, hijacked four aircraft, and flew them into three buildings and one field, in a meticulously planned, carefully orchestrated attack.
occam's razor and all that.....


Intresting... So....

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15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia
(from wikipedia)


So we attacked Iraq and Afghanistan....

Occam's razor and all that..... :whistle:

Edited by Coffey, 17 February 2013 - 05:02 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:52 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 17 February 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

http://tinyurl.com/d2janxo


Like most of the mainstream media, BBC has played along nicely in suppressing evidence surrounding the events of 11 September.  Depending on the hearing goes, that suppression and misrepresentation may become quite public.

Once again, it appears the British system is a bit more open to truth than is the american system.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I look forward to hearing the result.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

View Postshrooma, on 17 February 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

I agree.
the truth is, is that four groups of people, hijacked four aircraft, and flew them into three buildings and one field, in a meticulously planned, carefully orchestrated attack.
occam's razor and all that.....

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:29 PM

View PostCoffey, on 17 February 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:




Intresting... So....


(from wikipedia)


So we attacked Iraq and Afghanistan....

Occam's razor and all that..... :whistle:
nowhere in my post said george 'dubya' bush was of sound mind.....
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:42 PM

View Postshrooma, on 17 February 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


nowhere in my post said george 'dubya' bush was of sound mind.....
:-)
That's where the Occam's Razor comes into full effect.

Why can't this  be just limited to UFO's,ghosts and any unexplained phenomena.

Anything that needs burden of proof fits nicely into this.

For the record the events of 9/11 are still unexpained to this day.

Edited by Medium Brown, 17 February 2013 - 07:43 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

View Postshrooma, on 17 February 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

I think the key word here is 'impartiality'.
true impartiality is impossible, because subjectively, you can never appease two sets of opposing viewpoints.
I often wonder how members of the Flat Earth Society feel, for instance, when presented with a globe.....

What you say is correct by all means--true impariality is impossible.

But what we are talking about in this case is a particular style of impartiality, one that suppresses or hides certain facts.

They certainly did not do "due diligence" in checking facts before they broadcast them.  Is that misfeasance or malfeasance? :w00t:

True journalism requires that ALL facts be considered.  It requires that ALL facts be considered before a final conclusion is reached.

Fake journalism starts with a conclusion, and then works backward by cherry-picking evidence. :td:

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:09 PM

View Postshrooma, on 17 February 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

nowhere in my post said george 'dubya' bush was of sound mind.....
:-)

Haha, fair enough. :tu:
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 17 February 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:


True journalism requires that ALL facts be considered.  It requires that ALL facts be considered before a final conclusion is reached.

Fake journalism starts with a conclusion, and then works backward by cherry-picking evidence. :td:
they did.
they studied all the facts and came to the conclusion that there was no conspiracy, which they then reported.
or are you saying that their conclusions are in some way less valid than yours?
you have the right to an opinion, as do they, and you both equally have the right to express those opinions without, so it's hoped, reprisal, or is there some part of 'freedom of speech' that i'm misunderstanding?
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostMedium Brown, on 17 February 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:



For the record the events of 9/11 are still unexpained to this day.
what's to explain?
you fly a fully loaded 747 into a building, and it WILL fall down, I don't see any other explanation being necessary?

View PostMedium Brown, on 17 February 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:



For the record the events of 9/11 are still unexpained to this day.
what's to explain?
you fly a fully loaded 747 into a building, and it WILL fall down, I don't see any other explanation being necessary?
''Whilst believers expect to be taken as a guru at face value on any claim made, they expect skeptics to
provide every fine detail to entirely explain any realistic answer''
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