DAPRS Posted October 31, 2006 #1 Share Posted October 31, 2006 okay, so in Genesis, God created the earth and its inhabitants in seven days. Then He destroyed it with Noah. Is it possible that the 'earth' in Genesis is actually Mars? Perhaps the original 'earth' was mars, and its people were getting very immoral, so to cleanse them, God picked out the best (noah), and put him on a space ship. (The Ark.) along with all the DNA of the animals living at that time. Now, here on our 'earth', it was rampant with dinosaurs. God destroyed the dinosaurs with an asteroid, and allowed many years for the earth to correct itself. God then sent for Noah and Piloted the "ark" to earth, landing on Mt. Arrarat. God then flooded Mars with water, which would explain the water erosion on its surface. Over time, the atmosphere dwindled and the water froze at the poles. Over time here on earth, God somehow created the animals with the DNA Noah had saved. He then let nature take its course. and Noah and his family re-populated the earth. This theory would explain a few things. 1.) why there is no flood damage on earth. 2.) Why there is water erosion on mars. 3.) Why there is no signs of past life on mars (water carried sediments which settled and covered the remains.) Please keep in mind, this is only a theory. I just thought of this once, and wanted to see what you guys thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted October 31, 2006 #2 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Interesting theory, but I can see at least two big problems. One is the complexity of the plan. An omniscient and omnipotent God could probably find a much simpler way to do all this. And a second thing, you mentioned that all the water used to flood mars was locked up in the poles- but the poles of mars are 95% dry ice, pretty much no water there. I'm not saying that it's wrong, but just that it appears extremely unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted October 31, 2006 #3 Share Posted October 31, 2006 An omniscient and omnipotent God could probably find a much simpler way to do all this. Just as he would have found a much simpler way of destroying mankind instead of a worldwide flood...Maybe something like a 100% fatal plague and then make Noah and his family immune to it! No need for an Ark to be built, no need to gather the animals, no need to perform unscientific miracles such as 40 days and nights of rain and fountains of the deep to produce more water than is on the Earth, now or in the past...Just a nice quick surgically percise strike - no deaths of innocent animals and plants...Oh, I forgot we were talking about an omniscient and omipotent deity, not Jehovah the Bronze Age tryrant god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted October 31, 2006 #4 Share Posted October 31, 2006 That would be more efficient, although God never intended to do such a thing. The flood stories of various cultures are probably based on the less massive flood that created the Black Sea, which would have been very rapid. And Jehovah is not my God mako, my God is known to the Jewish people as YHWH. Theres a very large difference. But my God is only one aspect of the true Divine Being. Allah, Shiva, and your Creator are all separate but equal aspects of the same Being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted October 31, 2006 #5 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Last time I checked, Jehovah, Yahweh and YHWH are the one and the same...the Creator is not an aspect of any of the gods you named, since they are all manmade myths, created in an attempt by ancient men to explain the universe and all are anthomophic, whereas what we call the Creator is what we predicate was the creation force and is not even remotely anthromorphic and far beyond mankinds limited means to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted October 31, 2006 #6 Share Posted October 31, 2006 They are different in many ways mako. This is evident in the fact that the Bible uses both the terms Lord and LORD- this symbolizes a different Entity. I could give you another 20 or so differences, but you probably wouldn't care what I said, because no-one can change your beliefs. If one day the Hubble telescope found a nebula made up of letters that clearly stated "I Am the Lord thy God" you would still believe the same thing. And as much as you hate to admit it, any force, any energy, any supernatural thing that Created this universe can be called God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted October 31, 2006 #7 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Wow, that's kinda funny... Thought you of all people might find this interesting. Enjoy! And before you say it, this site makes it look as if there's not much room for interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted November 1, 2006 #8 Share Posted November 1, 2006 This is evident in the fact that the Bible uses both I am not speaking of mythology, yet you come back with information from a book of mythology....typical Thought you of all people might find this interesting LOL, this is kinda like a Moslem posting a Catholic website and telling a Protestant that there isn't much room for interpretation of the Virgin Mary's place in the religion! You say you know religion, but all you seem to do is google!!!! Pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted November 1, 2006 #9 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I didn't say "Here, this is what you believe, ha ha ha ". I led you to a site that shows that there are many Deists that believe in a God. Period. Did I google this site? NO. I've gone there many times trying to make heads or tails of what you believe. Yes, I do know religion- Deism, by the words of yourself and others, isn't one, therefore I would not have come across it in my extensive studies. Given the knowledge I've gained from this source and many others, I've found that deism is a belief system that should be respected, and I think that there are many profound and honorable ideas within it. Based on the many things I've heard and read, saying that you are a typical deist is like saying a Shiite is a typical Muslim. You know, there are those that doubt the knowledge I possess because I never bring it to light. The reason for this is that I save the volumes of information I have for any serious debate that may arise. If you or any other would wish to debate me at some time in the future, you shall see that I speak the truth. Though some would have to get over the things they've assumed about me to consider me a worthy opponent, the true facts I have about your religion and many others would astound you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadetak Posted November 1, 2006 #10 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I haven't read the bible in a long time but after the flood doesn't the Ark just sail around for awhile until they find land? I don't think theres anything in that story that ha them traveling space. Also don't all the locations stay the same too? Also you would have to concider that when the flood happened mars and earth would both have had to bin life habitable planets at the same time...unless there was some seriously long down time inbetween travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAPRS Posted November 1, 2006 Author #11 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Very true... As I said in the post. I in no way believe this theory. I just thought about it while I was sitting in my room reading the Bible. Kinda interesting, I think it would make a great (and corny) movie. As for the opinion that God is non-existant, I'm not gonna touch that, as I am a christian. I do, however, respect your opinion. CARRY ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella-Angelique Posted November 1, 2006 #12 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Very true... As I said in the post. I in no way believe this theory. I just thought about it while I was sitting in my room reading the Bible. Kinda interesting, I think it would make a great (and corny) movie. I like it just fine for a Sci-fi movie. The only change that I might make would be to make the planet Venus, since all of the angels in the bible are called Morning Stars, or Venusians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted November 1, 2006 #13 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Yes, I do know religion- Deism, by the words of yourself and others, isn't one, Only if you consider mythology to be the only religion...Deism is not based on Bronze Age or earlier mythology, as is every organized religion, but instead on the recognition that we need no Guy in the Sky, that we have been given Free Will and the knowledge to control own baser instincts, if we are willing to do such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBA Posted November 1, 2006 #14 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Doesn't sound like too much of a stretch for The Bible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted November 1, 2006 #15 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Only if you consider mythology to be the only religion...Deism is not based on Bronze Age or earlier mythology, as is every organized religion, but instead on the recognition that we need no Guy in the Sky, that we have been given Free Will and the knowledge to control own baser instincts, if we are willing to do such. This is what I don't understand. How can you believe in a Creator, yet not believe in one at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted November 1, 2006 #16 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I believe in a Creator, not a man made deity...the Creator may be only a force, I don't know...man is not advanced enough mentally to even start to understand what the Creator is or isn't, that is why we examine the universe carefully, attempting to start to understand the Creator and the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted November 1, 2006 #17 Share Posted November 1, 2006 *Sigh* Somewhere around 2,000 years ago, a child was born to a virgin woman, this child's name was Jesus Christ. Man did not create Him, man did not simply make up the story of his life. Say what you want about the other Gods, but until you show me proof that this Man didn't exist, leave Him out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako Posted November 1, 2006 #18 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Somewhere around 2,000 years ago, a child was born to a virgin woman, this child's name was Jesus Christ. **sigh** how about a little contemporary evidence that this individual ever existed...I don't want something that comes from late 1st century or later, that is meerly hearsay and no more valid than the story of Mithra, Krishna, Osiris or Adonis. I also need to know when this individual was born, 1st century BCE or 1st century CE and how you know that it was that particular time....need evidence, not personal feelings....As I said - Manmade artificial constructs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
controlsx2 Posted November 2, 2006 #19 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Interesting theory, but I can see at least two big problems. One is the complexity of the plan. An omniscient and omnipotent God could probably find a much simpler way to do all this. And a second thing, you mentioned that all the water used to flood mars was locked up in the poles- but the poles of mars are 95% dry ice, pretty much no water there. I'm not saying that it's wrong, but just that it appears extremely unlikely. But maybe it proves that God is nothing special just some advanced ntellegent form of life that at the beggining of time seemed superior there are tribes today that have never seen any other human life and whne people discover them and they see our technology they worship us not realiseng that it was nothing special because to them it is amazing maybe that god and he and s race were way more advanced and had the technology to do that and i think that flaseprophet's theory is alot more belivable to me anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swilanka Posted November 2, 2006 #20 Share Posted November 2, 2006 An omniscient and omnipotent God could probably find a much simpler way to do all this. You know what, I think God just has an interesting sense of humor. Perhaps he enjoys complex plans. I actually like this theory, although there are a few things I would change. Such as He wouldn't take the DNA of the animals, He'd probably just create new ones. There's a possibility people tend to overlook. God is omniscient, omnipotent, omni-everything. He could very well have simply made mars the way it is. He could have decided "I think the dinosaurs have had their time" wiped them out and made the humans. He could have down any number of things just because He felt like it. I have to admit, if I were He I would do things just to confuse the humans. He said He wouldn't flood us again, not that He wouldn't mess with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Mike Posted November 3, 2006 #21 Share Posted November 3, 2006 He said He wouldn't flood us again, not that He wouldn't mess with us. So you are advocating Loki the Sly One as the supreme deity? I didn't think he was really a god - Just a trouble maker to the gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swilanka Posted November 7, 2006 #22 Share Posted November 7, 2006 So you are advocating Loki the Sly One as the supreme deity? I didn't think he was really a god - Just a trouble maker to the gods. Woah woah wait. Nothing I said had anything to do with Loki in any way shape or form. I was refering to the basic, classic Christian God, whom I happen to have full faith in, by the way. All I meant was that maybe God has a funny sense of humor, not that He is Loki.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RisenPrism Posted November 7, 2006 #23 Share Posted November 7, 2006 To quote the opening sequence from one of the greatest films ever made- Dogma- "Even God has a sense of humor, just look at the platypus." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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