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[brave_new_world]

I got these writings from a book called "Island" by Aldous Huxley. I think it has deep penetrating meanings that are universal and can apply to all human beings. It is a very spritual read and I hope you enjoy.

Part One:

Nobody needs to go anywhere else. We are all, if we only knew it, already there.

If I only knew who in fact I am, I should cease to behave as what I think I am; and if I stopped behaving as what I think I am, I should know who I am.

What in fact I am, if only a Manichee I think I am would allow me to know it, is the reconciliation of yes and no lived out in total acceptance and the blessed experience of Not-Two.

In religion all words are dirty words. Anybody who gets eloquent about Buddha,or God, or Christ, ought to have his mouth washed out with carbolic soap.

Because his apsiration to perpetuate only the "yes" in every pair of opposites can never, in the nature of things, be realized, the insulated Manichee I think I am condemns himself to endlessly repeated frustration, endlessly repeated conflicts with other aspiring and frustrated Manichees.

Conflicts and frustrations--there them in all history and almost all biography. "I show you sorrow," said the Buddha realistically. But he also showed the ending of sorrow--self-knowledge, total acceptance, the blessed experience of Not-two.

Part Two:

Knowing who in fact we are results in Good being, and Good being results in the most appropriate kind of good doing. But doing good does not itself result in Good Being. We can be virtuous without knowing who in fact we are. The beings who are merely good are not Good Beings; they are just pillars of society.

Most pillars are their own Samsons. They hold up, but sooner or later they pull down. There has never been a society in which most good doing was the product of Good Being and therefore constantly appropriate. This does not mean that there will never be such a society or that we in Pala are fools for trying to call it into existence.

Part Three:

The yogin and the Stoic---Two righteous egos who achieve their considerable results by pretending, systematically, to be somebody else. But it is not by pretending to be somebody else, even somebody supremely good and wise, that we can pass insullated Manichee-hood to Good Being.

Good Being is knowing who in fact we are; and in order to know who in fact we are, we must know, moment by moment, who we think we are and what this bad habit of thought compels us to feel and do. A moment of clear and complete knowledge of what we think we are, but in fact are not, puts a stop, for the momment, to the Manichean charade. If we renew, until they become continuity, these moments of the knowledge of what we are not, we may find ourselves, all of a sudden, knowing who in fact we are.

Concentration, abstract thinking, spiritual excerises--systematic exclusions in the realm of thought. Asceticism and hedonism--systematic exclusions in the realms of sensation, feeling and action. But Good Being is in the knowledge of who in fact one is in relation to all experiences. So be aware--aware in every context, at all times and whatever, creditable or discreditable, pleasant or unpleasant, you may be doing or suffering. This is the only genuine yoga, the only spiritual excercise worth practicing.

The more a man knows about individual objects, the more he knows about God. Translating Spinoza's language into ours, we can say: The more man knows about himself in relation to every kind of experience, the greater his chance of suddenly, one fine morning, realizing who in fact he is--or rather Who(

captial W) in Fact(capital F) "he"(betweeb quotation marks) Is(capital I).

St. John was right. In a blessedly speechless universe, the Word was not only with God; it was God. As something to be believed in. God is a projected symbol, a reified name. God= "God."

Faith is something very different from belief. Belief is the systematic taking of unanalyzed words much too seriously. Paul's words, Mohammed's words, Marx's words, Hitler's words--people take them too seriously, and what happens? What happens is the senseless ambivalence of history---sadism versus duty, or (incomparably worse)sadism as duty; devotion counterbalanced by organized paranoia; sisters of charity selflessly tending the victims of their own churche's inquisitors and crusaders. Faith ,on the contrary can never be taken too seriously. For Faith is the empirically justified confidence in our capacity to know who in fact we are, to forget the belief-intoxicated Manichee in Good Being. Give us this day our daily faith, but deliver us, dear God, from belief.

Any thoughts???

[kobie]

I got these writings from a book called "Island" by Aldous Huxley. I think it has deep penetrating meanings that are universal and can apply to all human beings. It is a very spritual read and I hope you enjoy.

Part One:

Nobody needs to go anywhere else. We are all, if we only knew it, already there.

If I only knew who in fact I am, I should cease to behave as what I think I am; and if I stopped behaving as what I think I am, I should know who I am.

What in fact I am, if only a Manichee I think I am would allow me to know it, is the reconciliation of yes and no lived out in total acceptance and the blessed experience of Not-Two.

In religion all words are dirty words. Anybody who gets eloquent about Buddha,or God, or Christ, ought to have his mouth washed out with carbolic soap.

Because his apsiration to perpetuate only the "yes" in every pair of opposites can never, in the nature of things, be realized, the insulated Manichee I think I am condemns himself to endlessly repeated frustration, endlessly repeated conflicts with other aspiring and frustrated Manichees.

Conflicts and frustrations--there them in all history and almost all biography. "I show you sorrow," said the Buddha realistically. But he also showed the ending of sorrow--self-knowledge, total acceptance, the blessed experience of Not-two.

Part Two:

Knowing who in fact we are results in Good being, and Good being results in the most appropriate kind of good doing. But doing good does not itself result in Good Being. We can be virtuous without knowing who in fact we are. The beings who are merely good are not Good Beings; they are just pillars of society.

Most pillars are their own Samsons. They hold up, but sooner or later they pull down. There has never been a society in which most good doing was the product of Good Being and therefore constantly appropriate. This does not mean that there will never be such a society or that we in Pala are fools for trying to call it into existence.

Part Three:

The yogin and the Stoic---Two righteous egos who achieve their considerable results by pretending, systematically, to be somebody else. But it is not by pretending to be somebody else, even somebody supremely good and wise, that we can pass insullated Manichee-hood to Good Being.

Good Being is knowing who in fact we are; and in order to know who in fact we are, we must know, moment by moment, who we think we are and what this bad habit of thought compels us to feel and do. A moment of clear and complete knowledge of what we think we are, but in fact are not, puts a stop, for the momment, to the Manichean charade. If we renew, until they become continuity, these moments of the knowledge of what we are not, we may find ourselves, all of a sudden, knowing who in fact we are.

Concentration, abstract thinking, spiritual excerises--systematic exclusions in the realm of thought. Asceticism and hedonism--systematic exclusions in the realms of sensation, feeling and action. But Good Being is in the knowledge of who in fact one is in relation to all experiences. So be aware--aware in every context, at all times and whatever, creditable or discreditable, pleasant or unpleasant, you may be doing or suffering. This is the only genuine yoga, the only spiritual excercise worth practicing.

The more a man knows about individual objects, the more he knows about God. Translating Spinoza's language into ours, we can say: The more man knows about himself in relation to every kind of experience, the greater his chance of suddenly, one fine morning, realizing who in fact he is--or rather Who(

captial W) in Fact(capital F) "he"(betweeb quotation marks) Is(capital I).

St. John was right. In a blessedly speechless universe, the Word was not only with God; it was God. As something to be believed in. God is a projected symbol, a reified name. God= "God."

Faith is something very different from belief. Belief is the systematic taking of unanalyzed words much too seriously. Paul's words, Mohammed's words, Marx's words, Hitler's words--people take them too seriously, and what happens? What happens is the senseless ambivalence of history---sadism versus duty, or (incomparably worse)sadism as duty; devotion counterbalanced by organized paranoia; sisters of charity selflessly tending the victims of their own churche's inquisitors and crusaders. Faith ,on the contrary can never be taken too seriously. For Faith is the empirically justified confidence in our capacity to know who in fact we are, to forget the belief-intoxicated Manichee in Good Being. Give us this day our daily faith, but deliver us, dear God, from belief.

Any thoughts???

its good.....growth of the transcending human consciousness and self awareness...

all that applies to promot transformation of ones self, helping the one who desire such answers to such questions of phycological development and understandment of the developing self...

[Leonardo]

I got these writings from a book called "Island" by Aldous Huxley. I think it has deep penetrating meanings that are universal and can apply to all human beings. It is a very spritual read and I hope you enjoy.

Part One:

In religion all words are dirty words. Anybody who gets eloquent about Buddha,or God, or Christ, ought to have his mouth washed out with carbolic soap.

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Conflicts and frustrations--there them in all history and almost all biography. "I show you sorrow," said the Buddha realistically. But he also showed the ending of sorrow--self-knowledge, total acceptance, the blessed experience of Not-two.

Shouldn't Mr Huxley be washing his own mouth out with carbolic soap?

I'm always wary of religions which capitalise concepts (Good vs good) and use these to imply a state of godly being. I suppose this means I'm wary of all religions.

[justcallmefox]

Maybe i missed it somehow, but i didn't see anything in there about the beings who are bad- by choice or nature.

What would happen to you if you were to do wrong in this non-religion? Nothing? But that would lead to anarchy...

[brave_new_world]

it's good isn;t it? How ingenius mR Huxley is!

[brave_new_world]

Maybe i missed it somehow, but i didn't see anything in there about the beings who are bad- by choice or nature.

What would happen to you if you were to do wrong in this non-religion? Nothing? But that would lead to anarchy...

Like it says, dont take the words too serious hehehehehe

[SkyDancer]

Faith is something very different from belief. Belief is the systematic taking of unanalyzed words much too seriously. Paul's words, Mohammed's words, Marx's words, Hitler's words--people take them too seriously, and what happens? What happens is the senseless ambivalence of history---sadism versus duty, or (incomparably worse)sadism as duty; devotion counterbalanced by organized paranoia; sisters of charity selflessly tending the victims of their own churche's inquisitors and crusaders. Faith ,on the contrary can never be taken too seriously. For Faith is the empirically justified confidence in our capacity to know who in fact we are, to forget the belief-intoxicated Manichee in Good Being. Give us this day our daily faith, but deliver us, dear God, from belief.

HaHa awesome quote.

If Im not mistaken wasn't Huxley one of the first to experiment with Psychedelics?

Because if so this is a rather fitting realisation.

[brave_new_world]

Faith is something very different from belief. Belief is the systematic taking of unanalyzed words much too seriously. Paul's words, Mohammed's words, Marx's words, Hitler's words--people take them too seriously, and what happens? What happens is the senseless ambivalence of history---sadism versus duty, or (incomparably worse)sadism as duty; devotion counterbalanced by organized paranoia; sisters of charity selflessly tending the victims of their own churche's inquisitors and crusaders. Faith ,on the contrary can never be taken too seriously. For Faith is the empirically justified confidence in our capacity to know who in fact we are, to forget the belief-intoxicated Manichee in Good Being. Give us this day our daily faith, but deliver us, dear God, from belief.

HaHa awesome quote.

If Im not mistaken wasn't Huxley one of the first to experiment with Psychedelics?

Because if so this is a rather fitting realisation.

Not first to experiment with psychedelics but first the write such an articulate and vivid account of it in such a scientific context collaborating with spirituality in his book "The doors of perception". He was truly a pioneer for the highest form of individual expression and realisation ,and wrote what I think is the greatest religious/philosophical anthology of the 20th century "The Perennial Philosophy".

He understood the core of all religions and saw how that they fitted to the same goal which is the union of the individual with the divine ground(whatever you wish to call it).

[brave_new_world]

Maybe i missed it somehow, but i didn't see anything in there about the beings who are bad- by choice or nature.

What would happen to you if you were to do wrong in this non-religion? Nothing? But that would lead to anarchy...

HAHAHAHAHA people who are bad by choice and nature do so because they dont truly know who they are. It outlines that quite clearly in part one. We behave according to what we think we are and not to what we know we are.

Edited November 24, 2006 by brave_new_world

[justcallmefox]

And if I think I'm bad, then?

Seriously, though, some people (usually the criminally deviant kind) think that

they're born "bad" and there's nothing that they can do to change themselves.

[brave_new_world]

And if I think I'm bad, then?

Seriously, though, some people (usually the criminally deviant kind) think that

they're born "bad" and there's nothing that they can do to change themselves.

Exactly, because they behave according to what they think they are, most of us dont know who we are.