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[ThePitOfReason]

Make no mistake I'm a Christian but to be bold enough to pick a date based on what you think the scripture reads Jesus will return? I'm not going along for this ride folks. I feel like he will return one day but not in our life time. Some say soon and have for many years now but some are saying on May 21st 2011 check out this news link.
http://www.ajc.com/l...sus-771570.html

[Aus Der Box Skeptisch]

Lol could it be the coming of the anti christ or is the anti christ hoopla all just a scam because the jews although speaking of jesus as a good sould did not believe him to be the true christ, so christians constantly trying to protect their religion came up with an idea that anyone claiming to be the true christ, which would completely nullify christianity if it were true, would be immediately labeled as the antichrist. Just so christianity could survive.

I'm not to sure about this answer. The jews predated christianity, and while the old testament remains the same. The difference if we have to pick one, is that the jews are waiting for their messiah and the christians already have theirs. Who is wrong? The jews or the christians? They share the same god. Would god pass judgment on the jews for not accepting his son or would the christians be judged because of worshiping a false idol? I would hope that if true all would be allowed into heaven without judgment. But were that the case, doesn't that make these religions pointless? if we get into the kingdom of heaven no matter our beliefs. on the flipside if only one is true then does that mean that a ton of good people will be condemned to hell? Since the beliefs in heaven and hell are shared? that would make god not such a good being as god is exemplified.

So the conclusion is this to me. Either religion is a bunch of bullhonky and god will not judge you.
Or...
God is an elitist that will condemn a lot of good people for the sake of what they were taught to believe.
Hmmm. Not a very pleasant situation.

What are your thoughts.

[Maizer]

Well if he does return, and if he shows everyone the love, healing, and encouragement he did the first time around, would that not be great?

[Classified Document]

Maizer, on 10 December 2010 - 08:53 AM, said:

Well if he does return, and if he shows everyone the love, healing, and encouragement he did the first time around, would that not be great?

It would be awsome if this does happen. The world could do with a visit from Jesus.

[Rocketgirl33]

This reminds me of a story my mother told me back in 1978 or 79. She was working for a drug and alcohol rehab some where in the greater LA Cal area. One of her clients was a member of a small church and the pastor of that church had told his congragation that God had told him that he would be coming on a certin date that year. So all the members of the church were asked by the pastor to sell everything they owned, close all bank accounts and turn it all over to him a day or so before the second coming and he would put all the money into the Salvation Army for the poor. On the day before Jesus was going to show up and take them all home, the members got together and turned over all their money to the pastor and they all cooked a huge "last super" and readied themselvs for the coming of the lord. They all show up in the area that God told them to go to to wait. They ended up waiting for almost an entire week!! Soon they figured out that the only thing "comeing" for them was embarassment! The pastor vanished with all the money and was never seen again and the fools that waited for 7 days went to find the Salvation Army to help them put their lives back together!  I would like to see what the billboards say on May 22, 2011. If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish, then its probably Fishy!

Rocketgirl

[TrueBeliever]

Rocketgirl33, on 10 December 2010 - 11:13 AM, said:

This reminds me of a story my mother told me back in 1978 or 79. She was working for a drug and alcohol rehab some where in the greater LA Cal area. One of her clients was a member of a small church and the pastor of that church had told his congragation that God had told him that he would be coming on a certin date that year. So all the members of the church were asked by the pastor to sell everything they owned, close all bank accounts and turn it all over to him a day or so before the second coming and he would put all the money into the Salvation Army for the poor. On the day before Jesus was going to show up and take them all home, the members got together and turned over all their money to the pastor and they all cooked a huge "last super" and readied themselvs for the coming of the lord. They all show up in the area that God told them to go to to wait. They ended up waiting for almost an entire week!! Soon they figured out that the only thing "comeing" for them was embarassment! The pastor vanished with all the money and was never seen again and the fools that waited for 7 days went to find the Salvation Army to help them put their lives back together!  I would like to see what the billboards say on May 22, 2011. If it looks like a fish and smells like a fish, then its probably Fishy!

Rocketgirl

I remember as a young girl sitting in church week after week listening to people almost cry when they said Jesus was coming soon!! In their lifetime! Others were red faced and angry raling against the sinners of the world!!  Everyone was so sure and so convinced in their lifetime they would see Jesus, It is a mental disorder. My mother to this day PRAYS for the end of the world. And criticises ME for NOT doing so on the basis that I MUST enjoy the sin and I 'just want to do my own thing and reject the Lord.' It is madness, hysteria and a short spell on antopsychotics would surely improve the lot of these people. I am not trying to be mean though I know I will be taken that way. Religion has so many dangers. When reason and logic are suspended and even outright rejected very dangerous ideoligies come into play. With modern day science and technology a bunch of nitwits that crave an apocalyptic event to 'prove' they are right about God, the Bible, their beliefs, are going to try and at least have a self fulfilling prophecy come true, I mean they have nuclear weapons at their disposal. The madness with religious extremists knows no bounds. And now science in the wrong hands may destroy us all.

[Emma_Acid]

And exactly how many religious predictions have ever come true?

Clue: less than one.

[Rock-Star]

Aus Der Box Skeptisch, on 10 December 2010 - 08:47 AM, said:

So the conclusion is this to me. Either religion is a bunch of bullhonky and god will not judge you.
Or...
God is an elitist that will condemn a lot of good people for the sake of what they were taught to believe.
Hmmm. Not a very pleasant situation.

What are your thoughts.

Here's hoping option one is the correct one!....On a side note, if Jesus did indeed exist and he comes back, I think he might be a bit ticked off about the way many of his "followers" are behaving

[HerNibs]

Great, I hope he brings John Lennon with him.

Nibs

[factoid]

jesus will come back but as you said not in are life time plus the rise of the anticrist has not acurred yet well inless you count obama but im a full christion beliver of god and as much as i wish he wold come he wont plush scripter say jesus will not come on days picked buy man nore shale the world end

[The Paranormal Skeptic]

Emma_Acid, on 10 December 2010 - 01:15 PM, said:

And exactly how many religious predictions have ever come true?

Clue: less than one.

This reminds me of an old family friend who I consider went off the deep end.  This guy has always been religious; I can remember a time when I was little helping hand out those annoying devotional booklets in front of the Toledo Zoo.  Anyway I digress; this individual received a buyout plan from Jeep, which he took and he used the money to purchase a huge van.  He used the rest of the money to turn the van into a preaching mobile in which he drives around preaching about the end of the world and the second coming of Christ which is coming in 2012, he claims that there are clues in the Bible.   He sold his house and lives on the road.  Freaking insane.

[Chronii]

factoid, on 10 December 2010 - 02:40 PM, said:

the rise of the anticrist has not acurred yet well inless you count obama

asdf what

[zenfahr]

Hope he also brings back jim Morrison, and Jerry Garcia.

This is going to be very bad for the bible belt christians.... the rest of us will see these billboards and just lump all ya'll christians together.  And when it does not happen... and it wont... Christianity is going to look very stupid.

[kapsha]

I would like to repeat what someone else posted on this forum...exactly what time zone are they referring to? Will he come on the 20th for some and 21st for others? Or will it be the 21st for some and the 22nd for others?  

Geez...

[JGirl]

boy are they ever gonna feel dumb on may 22nd.