PresidentBruno Posted October 25, 2014 #1 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have thought about joining at some point. Seems like a good way to advance yourself career-wise and make powerful friends. Plus this girl who did some terrible things to me HATES the Freemasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted October 25, 2014 #2 Share Posted October 25, 2014 There is a Freemason Lodge near my home. That place is a den of geriatrics and rotting automobiles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimmOne Posted October 25, 2014 #3 Share Posted October 25, 2014 President you mine as well, but can just anybody join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-C Posted October 25, 2014 #4 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Are you invited/selected or can you ask to join? I thought you used to be asked and/or sponsored? Who was a Mason used to be a secret of sorts, many years ago, as I remember. Why do you want to join other than as retaliation on an ex? Not a reason for joining if they ask, btw . Why does she hate them? Do you know specifically what they do? If it's like everything else their traditions and ceremonies may be watered down or eliminated today. Maybe it is a lot less secretive and selective and their activities/objectives different today as well. Idk. Edited October 25, 2014 by QuiteContrary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted October 25, 2014 #5 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have thought about joining at some point. Seems like a good way to advance yourself career-wise and make powerful friends. Plus this girl who did some terrible things to me HATES the Freemasons. You might want to read up on freemasons and how to become one- it isn't as easy as "a random ex hates them and I want power". You should keep in mind that they have a process for people interested in joining. That said, your OP has absolutely nothing to do with your title or your putting this topic under the CT section. You aren't asking if freemasons are a CT or not, or what CT might be connected with them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 25, 2014 #6 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have thought about joining at some point. Seems like a good way to advance yourself career-wise and make powerful friends. Plus this girl who did some terrible things to me HATES the Freemasons. You might have to come up with a better reason when they ask you "What is your object in enrolling yourself amongst us?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 25, 2014 #7 Share Posted October 25, 2014 That said, your OP has absolutely nothing to do with your title or your putting this topic under the CT section. You aren't asking if freemasons are a CT or not, or what CT might be connected with them. Oh ... yeah! TWO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentBruno Posted October 25, 2014 Author #8 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I never said it was an ex. I would never date such a vile cruel person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 25, 2014 #9 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Maybe she was part of a conspiracy against you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted October 26, 2014 #10 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) My freinds uncle was a freemason. You have to be sponsored by someone who is already a member. And pay some money lol Edited October 26, 2014 by spartan max2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddonire Posted October 26, 2014 #11 Share Posted October 26, 2014 No. </thread> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 26, 2014 #12 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Freemasonic Unicorns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimmOne Posted October 26, 2014 #13 Share Posted October 26, 2014 My ex always use to say her ex boyfriends older brother was in the Illuminati, Its funny because she would ALWAYS say that when we were having a fight If it was suppose to be a threat it went right over my head 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightLady Posted October 26, 2014 #14 Share Posted October 26, 2014 One way to become a Freemason or Eastern Star is to be related to one, and the door is somewhat wide open. It can be by marriage, long gone relations, even I believe step relatives can apply. What they are like today I have no idea, but my aunt was married to one and that automatically made her an Eastern Star. There are some interesting benefits to belonging. One is life time care. If your family is gone and you require a retirement facility they will take you in. As I understand it they are nice places. You can also be interned in their cemeteries. Back in the late 50's my aunt was traveling from FL. to NY. In one of the southern states she was stopped for going through a red light. She said it was yellow, but they didn't care, and took her to the local police station. While there she ran into a young couple that were brought in for the same reason. They also said it was yellow. My aunt was a woman of action not arguing, so she paid the the fine and went on her way. After arriving home she contacted the Eastern Stars and told them that she thought something fishy was going on. They investigated and discovered that the police were ticketing out of state license plates at this one intersection when drivers went through yellow lights. They were fired. That shows a reasonable amount of power to me, but as I said I know nothing about now, except that you do have to declare a religion. Anyone will do but you are expected to believe in a supreme being. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 26, 2014 #15 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Found this... www.wikihow.com/Join-Freemasonry If they really are the largest fraternal organization in the world, then really.... how hard could it be to get in? I think more mystery exists around these guys then they deserve. Edited October 26, 2014 by DieChecker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyFeet Posted October 27, 2014 #16 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (First) For people that are interested. 2B1Ask1: If you want to be a Mason you have to ask one. You do not have to be related to a member. Usually people already know a member or are related to one. If you don't, look for guys wearing the rings, have the symbols on their cars...ect. Free and Accepted Masons do not approach people and ask them to be a member. Eastern Star usually does require being a Mason, married to or related to a Mason. Not all Masonic lodges are free and accepted. There are clandestine lodges. http://www.masonicworld.com/education/files/artjuly01/clandestine.htm Yes, it does cost money to join, depending on the lodge, state and country the amount varies. Initiation fees usually are not that bad. Yearly dues also depend on the lodge you join. Basic requirements for Freemasons: You have to be free man of lawful age (usually 18-21) depending on state, country.... You have to believe in a God, it does not matter which religion you believe in, you just have to believe in one. No criminal record. (lodges do check you out). If you find a member and they get you an application, it will have to be signed by usually 3 Masons, again different lodges have different guidlines. If you are complete unknown to the Masons in your area, they may still give you a chance. Then the lodge has to vote, even if only one member rejects you, that should be end of it. If you are accepted and they set up your 1st degree. That one is easy. After reading many post from PresidentBruno, I have to think the 1st degree would be the end of the line if you actually get that far. The 2nd degree (Fellowcraft) and 3rd degree Master Mason are earned. You actually have to learn something to obtain those degrees. If you believe the TV shows and internet CT garbage, that's OK. If you do happen to get accepted and pay your initiation fees, your money will mostly go to a charity that will make good use of it. Then you will find out it is mostly old men making plans for visiting sick members and/or their families, new petitions for membership (if any), degree work, lodge bills and charities. Family night pot luck dinners are pretty amazing.(That is the big secret) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted October 27, 2014 #17 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Answer: NO. Move along now, this is not the wacky conspiracy you were looking for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Censorship Posted October 28, 2014 #18 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The average Freemason is a good man. A high-ranking (33rd?) Freemason recently died. They discovered that he was extremely generous. He gave a huge amount of money to charitable institutions and community projects, but he hid his good deeds. He represents scores of Freemasons. I believe in some conspiracy theories, and I believe that there are some nefarious secret societies, but Freemasons represent the cream of the crop in more than a few instances. I hate to see good men defamed and maligned by dedicated paranoiacs who don't care about libel and slander. Note that I'm referring to regular Freemasons. There are/were offshoots that deserve their bad reputations. They may or may not be related to regular Freemasons, but they use their forms and rites. Some of *these* groups are worthy of the paranoiacs' opprobrium. P2 may be at the top of the list. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted October 28, 2014 #19 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Yeah. So, 'Freemasons' = old guys doing good deeds anonymously. Big deal, end of conspiracy. Edit: The only reason that there aren't conspiracy theories built along the Odd Fellows, the Independent Elk, Moose, Shriners, etc. is because they came later. Unfortunately, some 'whack job' said that organizations like these wanted to 'take over the world'. No, they just wanted to help their neighbourhood, or their brethren. Edited October 28, 2014 by Likely Guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Only Posted October 28, 2014 #20 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Unfortunately, some 'whack job' said that organizations like these wanted to 'take over the world'. No, they just wanted to help their neighbourhood, or their brethren. Now, hold on a second. You make it seem like many members of the Freemasons didn't in fact play a part in 'taking over the world'. In this light, that 'whack job' isn't as out of touch with logic and reality as you make them out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddonire Posted October 28, 2014 #21 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Now, hold on a second. You make it seem like many members of the <stamp collectors> didn't in fact play a part in 'taking over the world'. In this light, that 'whack job' isn't as out of touch with logic and reality as you make them out to be. Now, hold on a second. You make it seem like many members of the <model railway enthusiasts> didn't in fact play a part in 'taking over the world'. In this light, that 'whack job' isn't as out of touch with logic and reality as you make them out to be. Now, hold on a second. You make it seem like many members of the <cloud spotters> didn't in fact play a part in 'taking over the world'. In this light, that 'whack job' isn't as out of touch with logic and reality as you make them out to be. Now, hold on a second. You make it seem like many members of the <conspiracy theorists> didn't in fact play a part in 'taking over the world'. In this light, that 'whack job' isn't as out of touch with logic and reality as you make them out to be. Now, hold on a second. You make it seem like many members of the <scientists> didn't in fact play a part in 'taking over the world'. In this light, that 'whack job' isn't as out of touch with logic and reality as you make them out to be. In fact you can insert the name of any group and such a statement remains as meaningless as it was when first poorly thought out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted October 28, 2014 #22 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Now, hold on a second. You make it seem like many members of the Freemasons didn't in fact play a part in 'taking over the world'. In this light, that 'whack job' isn't as out of touch with logic and reality as you make them out to be. Sure, decades ago the Freemasons had influence. Now, it's a disjointed mutually beneficial old boys club that provides relief for it's members and families, with no political power. Please elucidate, and provide examples if you disagree. Edited October 28, 2014 by Likely Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Only Posted October 28, 2014 #23 Share Posted October 28, 2014 In fact you can insert the name of any group and such a statement remains as meaningless as it was when first poorly thought out. We're talking about a fraternal organization of brethren here. To equate that to train collectors or left handers is missing the point entirely. What is the larger scale of helping your neighborhood and brethren? Helping your world and people. Fraternities/scoail groups work through networking through networking and associating of those with power and prestige. This is an aspect of fraternal organizations that is well known (Skull and Bones group, as an example). It's this aspect that 'whack jobs' got their fuel. It's not simply taking any thing that is a thing and tying it to the wealthy/powerful (which really is the same thing). I don't think you thought this out, or you really want them to be wrong. Either way, you'e not being very fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Only Posted October 28, 2014 #24 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Sure, decades ago the Freemasons had influence. Now, it's a disjointed mutually beneficial old boys club that provides relief for it's members and families, with no political power. Please elucidate, and provide examples if you disagree. I don't really know; I've never been involved. I'm just understanding where conspiracy theorists got their origin of ideas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister Posted October 28, 2014 #25 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The truth is somewhere in the middle. To really understand them you have to take it back. In the Middle Ages secret societies popped up to keep some types of activities secret, mainly - political dissent, religious dissent (anything anti church), and trade secrets (trade guilds). Sometimes secret societies would merge or copy each other. This is why you had some secret societies that were very politically involved but also had strong religious/occult ties, or strong ties to a trade, like stone masonry. Freemasonry is a merger of stone masonry, some mystical groups, and political dissenters. The political dissenters were mostly nobility and wealthy merchants who were conspiring to overthrow the kings of Europe. This was the original conspiracy. Basically to create democracy, which was an evil thing at the time. They succeeded in America and France, and the dominoes kept falling from there. What they did was very beneficial to humanity, but it is important to note that this wasn't their motivation. They were selfishly motivated merchants who just wanted to overthrow monarchy because the Kings were taxing them too much. Also, it wasn't just the freemasons, it was a bunch of other groups too. As times have changed freemasonry is now a vestigial group. Like your appendix. At least when it comes to their original goals. However, freemasonry still provides an environment where new conspiracies can grow. And this is because of the secrecy, which is what a secret society is designed for. If enough powerful men ever become unsatisfied with the status quo, and conditions were such that they couldn't voice their opinions in public, freemasonry would be the perfect vehicle for them to confide and conspire. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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