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#2821    skyeagle409

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 03:23 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 18 November 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

If there had been that large square section of fuselage and passenger windows, painted in red and white, it would have stuck out like a sore thumb, yet nobody reported seeing it.

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Fuselage wreckage from United 93


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The videos shot from the helicopters have since been scrubbed from the internet.

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Text: United Airlines Statement on Plane Crashes

Following is a statement issued by United Airlines on the crash of Flight 93 near Pittsburgh and Flight 175 in a location that was not immediately disclosed:
United Airlines has now confirmed that two of its aircraft have crashed.

— UA 93, a Boeing 757 aircraft, departed from Newark, N.J. at 8:01 a.m. local time, bound for San Francisco, with 38 passengers on board, two pilots, five flight attendants.
— UA 175, a Boeing 767 aircraft, departed from Boston at 7:58 a.m. local time, bound for Los Angeles, with 56 passengers on board, two pilots and seven flight attendants.

United has confirmed it will dispatch a team to Johnstown, Pa., as soon as possible to assist, in every way possible, with the investigation and to provide assistance to the family members.

“Our thoughts are with the passengers, employees and family members of those involved. Today’s events are a tragedy and our prayers are with everyone at this time,” said James E. Goodwin, United’s CEO.
Goodwin said United is working with all the relevant authorities involved in today’s events and will provide further information as soon as it is available.

http://www.washingto..._text091101.htm

Confirmation from United Airlines on the loss of United 93.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:51 PM

Please note Sky, that the objects you show in the various pictures are not to be seen in the overhead view.  Now don't you go photoshopping them in there. :-*


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 18 November 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

Please note Sky, that the objects you show in the various pictures are not to be seen in the overhead view.  Now don't you go photoshopping them in there. :-*

Those parts were there, so it doesn't make any sense overruling those who recovered those parts from the crash site of United 93.

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Flight 93 crash site

At 10:03:11, near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, the plane crashed into a reclaimed coal strip mine known as the Diamond T. Mine owned by PBS Coals in Stonycreek Township in Somerset County. The National Transportation Safety Board reported that the flight impacted at 563 mph (906 km/h, 252 m/s, or 489 knots) at a 40-degree nose-down, inverted attitude.[19] The impact left a crater eight to ten feet deep (c. 3 m), and 30 to 50 feet wide (c. 12 m). All 44 people on board died.[63] Many media reports and eyewitness accounts cited the time of the crash at 10:06 or 10:10, as did an analysis of seismographic data in the area,[66] but which the 9/11 Commission report states was not definitive.Other media outlets and the 9/11 Commission reported the time of impact as 10:03, based on when the flight recorders stopped, analysis of radar data, infrared satellite data, and air traffic control transmissions.

Kelly Leverknight, a local resident, was watching news of the attacks when she heard the plane. "I heard the plane going over and I went out the front door and I saw the plane going down. It was headed toward the school, which panicked me, because all three of my kids were there. Then you heard the explosion and felt the blast and saw the fire and smoke." Another witness, Eric Peterson, looked up when he heard the plane, "It was low enough, I thought you could probably count the rivets. You could see more of the roof of the plane than you could the belly. It was on its side. There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud." Val McClatchey had been watching footage of the attacks when she heard the plane. She saw it briefly, then heard the impact. The crash knocked out the electricity and phones. McClatchey grabbed her camera and took the only known picture of the smoke cloud from the explosion. Ten years after 9/11, a video of the rising smoke cloud filmed by Dave Berkebile (deceased by 2011) from his yard located eight miles away from the crash site was published on YouTube.

The first responders arrived at the crash site after 10:06. Cleveland Center controllers, unaware the flight had crashed, notified the Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) at 10:07 that Flight 93 had a bomb on board and passed the last known position. This call was the first time the military was notified about the flight. Ballinger sent one final ACARS message to Flight 93 at 10:10, "Don't divert to DC. Not an option." He repeated the message one minute later. The Herndon Command Center alerted FAA headquarters that Flight 93 had crashed at 10:13. NEADS called the Washington Air Route Traffic Control Center for an update on Flight 93 and received notification that the flight had crashed.

At 10:37, CNN correspondent Aaron Brown, covering the collapse of the World Trade Center, announced, "We are getting reports and we are getting lots of reports and we want to be careful to tell you when we have confirmed them and not, but we have a report that a 747 is down in Pennsylvania, and that remains unconfirmed at this point." He followed that up at 10:49 by reporting that, "We have a report now that a large plane crashed this morning, north of the Somerset County Airport, which is in western Pennsylvania, not too terribly far from Pittsburgh, about 80 miles or so, a Boeing 767 jet. Don't know whose airline it was, whose airplane it was, and we don't have any details beyond that which I have just given you." In the confusion, he also erroneously reported a second hijacked plane heading for the Pentagon after the crash of the first.

http://usatoday30.us...ictims-list.htm

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A NATION CHALLENGED: THE PENNSYLVANIA CRASH; 44 Victims Are Remembered, and Lauded

SHANKSVILLE, Pa., Sept. 17— The families of those who died aboard United Airlines Flight 93 gathered in the mountains of southwestern Pennsylvania today, in a place that is already being described as a sacred battleground in the war against terrorism.

They stood on a hillside and looked down at the crater that was carved in the grassy field when the plane carrying their loved ones crashed here last Tuesday morning, killing all 44 people on board.
The survivors sobbed, and prayed and held onto one another. They laid flowers, teddy bears, photographs and baseball caps atop hay bales piled on the hillside in memory of the dead.

http://www.nytimes.c...and-lauded.html

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Dispatcher honored for Flight 93 efforts

Friday, December 07, 2001
By Ernie Hoffman, Post-Gazette Staff Writer

The Westmoreland County 911 dispatcher who took a cell phone call from a frantic passenger aboard hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 says he was just doing his job when he tried to calm the man and obtain more information about what was happening aboard the jetliner.

http://old.post-gaze...tcher1207p3.asp

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Summary

Since the time of plane impact at the Pentagon had often been reported with large scatter, the United States Army contacted us to inquire whether we could obtain an accurate time of the Pentagon attack on September 11, 2001 based upon our seismic network.

We analyzed seismic records from five stations in the northeastern United States, ranging from 63 to 350 km from the Pentagon. Despite detailed analysis of the data, we could not find a clear seismic signal. Even the closest station (= 62.8 km) at Soldier’s Delight, Baltimore County, Maryland (SDMD) did not record the impact.

We concluded that the plane impact to the Pentagon generated latively weak seismic signals. However, we positively identified seismic signals associated with United Airlines Flight 93 that crashed near Shanksville, Somerset County, Pennsylvania.

The time of the plane crash was 10:06:055 (EDT).

http://www.mgs.md.go...911pentagon.pdf

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Voices of 9/11: Witness, first responder, coroner, relative

Read more: http://www.post-gaze.../#ixzz2CbzohLxI


Linda Shepley was taking advantage of the bright September morning, hanging laundry in the yard of her Somerset County home when she heard an airplane approaching. She looked up and saw an incongruous sight: a Boeing 757 coming toward her, much lower than it ought to have been, rolling from side to side as though the pilot was drunk. She turned to watch the aircraft as it passed overhead, banked to the right, turned upside down and plummeted nose-first behind the treetops. Seconds later she heard the crash, saw a fireball rise into a mushroom cloud, smelled the acrid scent of burning jet fuel from three miles away.

Unknown to her at the time -- 10:03 a.m. -- her son, Michael, had picked up the visual, catching sight of the plane just as it disappeared from her view. Working at the Rollock Inc. scrap yard on the hill overlooking a reclaimed strip mine just yards away, he and a fellow worker had a bird's-eye view of the plane falling from the sky and slamming into the field at 563 miles per hour. Michael Shepley, then 22, not only watched and smelled the catastrophe, he felt the heat from the conflagration and saw debris flying through the air.

As the plane hit, Mrs. Shepley screamed to her husband, Jim, to call 911. Then they jumped in the car and peeled off from their Stoystown home toward the crash site, five minutes away.
Thus the Shepleys, parents and son, were among the first to stand at the smoking grave of United Airlines Flight 93, the only one of four airplanes hijacked by 19 al-Qaida terrorists that day that did not find its intended target.


Read more: http://www.post-gaze.../#ixzz2CbzWwKZm

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From United Flight 93 found at the crash site in Shanksville, Pennsylvania is displayed alongside other artifacts from the September 11, 2001 attacks as part of an exhibit at the Smithsonian National Museum of American History September 1, 2011 in Washington, DC.

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Now, what was that you were saying about "no Boeing" crashed near Shanksville? It didn't make any sense for you to make a false comment in light of the fact that United Airlines, recovery crews and investigators confirmed the crash site near Shanksville as that of United 93.

Edited by skyeagle409, 18 November 2012 - 09:42 PM.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:11 PM

They were there but you can't show me an aerial picture with them 'there'?  You are consistent Sky, I'll give you that.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:25 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 19 November 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

They were there but you can't show me an aerial picture with them 'there'?  You are consistent Sky, I'll give you that.

That doesn't work for you either, BR! :no:

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM

Too bad for UA that the ACARS data does not support their report.  Not knowing where any of your aicraft are at any given time is WAY WORSE than losing baggage. :whistle:


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:17 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

Too bad for UA that the ACARS data does not support their report.  Not knowing where any of your aicraft are at any given time is WAY WORSE than losing baggage. :whistle:

On the contrary, ACARS did not depict United 93 landing at all nor did radar, which tracked United 93 to the general location of its crash site. And yes, I have already spoken with the folks at ARINC, the ACARS experts.

Seems to me you were also unaware of what radar depicted on United 93. :no:

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To sum it up simply, you were taken to the cleaners by those 9/11 conspiracy websites, and remember, they mistakenly have said that United 93 landed at Cleveland airport when in fact, they mistaken Delta 1989, which was a B-767, as United 93, which was a B-757.





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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 18 November 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

Please note Sky, that the objects you show in the various pictures are not to be seen in the overhead view.  Now don't you go photoshopping them in there. :-*

The first object looks like it's in the trees (because of the shadows) so you can't say it's not there in the overhead view

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:00 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 20 November 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

Too bad for UA that the ACARS data does not support their report.  Not knowing where any of your aicraft are at any given time is WAY WORSE than losing baggage. :whistle:

Wow... I had no idea that crop dusters cam equipped with ACARS systems nowadays....


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:11 PM

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I doubt modern cropdusters are equipped with ACARS, but maybe some are willing to pay ARINC for that service.

But the new ones do have very nice and elaborate GPS based navigation systems that show guidance commands for swath width and such.

ACARS is valuable for passenger airlines, but not for airborne tractors.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:55 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 20 November 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

I doubt modern cropdusters are equipped with ACARS, but maybe some are willing to pay ARINC for that service.

But the new ones do have very nice and elaborate GPS based navigation systems that show guidance commands for swath width and such.

ACARS is valuable for passenger airlines, but not for airborne tractors.

It was a mistake on your part to bring up ACARS. To make that clear, show us where United 93 landed anywhere else.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:28 AM

Sky first ,Have a great Thanksgiving and be safe ! Second ITs time to just let a "member" just go, They will never listen to logic,sanity,common cents or anything close to THe Facts. I know Forums are open to infintity and beond,but this guy needs help ! :no:

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:15 PM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 21 November 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:

Sky first ,Have a great Thanksgiving and be safe !

Thanks!! :tu:

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Second ITs time to just let a "member" just go, They will never listen to logic,sanity,common cents or anything close to THe Facts. I know Forums are open to infintity and beond,but this guy needs help ! :no:

I heard that!! :yes:

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:42 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 20 November 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

It was a mistake on your part to bring up ACARS. To make that clear, show us where United 93 landed anywhere else.

To understand the ACARS details Sky, one need not show where 93 landed.  All one needs to do is show that for a certain time period AFTER the supposed crash at Shanksville, the aircraft carrying that flight number that day was still receiving messages from the ground stations in the ACARS system.  That is what the ACARS data shows, and what Woody Box has discovered.

It cannot have crashed if it was still communicating with the system afterwards.  Where it landed does not matter.  It would be very interesting to know where it landed, but it is irrelevant.


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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:08 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 24 November 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

To understand the ACARS details Sky, one need not show where 93 landed.  All one needs to do is show that for a certain time period AFTER the supposed crash at Shanksville, the aircraft carrying that flight number that day was still receiving messages from the ground stations in the ACARS system.  That is what the ACARS data shows, and what Woody Box has discovered.

It cannot have crashed if it was still communicating with the system afterwards.  Where it landed does not matter.  It would be very interesting to know where it landed, but it is irrelevant.

That would be an interesting story if it were true, but it isn't true, just like most of the things you say around here BR.  In reality Woody Box is mistaken and there is no evidence to suggest that UA93 received any transmissions after it crashed.  All evidence indicates that it didn't receive any transmissions after it crashed.





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