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Why havent we gone back to the Moon yet?


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#31    Hasina

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:32 PM

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Also the US spends over 1 trillion PER YEAR on military spending. So the money excuse is very lame considering they could spend most of that military funding on space travel and technologies instead ( like moon bases)!!!
But the fact remains that the military doesn't have to do much to get money from congress, yet NASA has to beg to not have its budget cut.  There are far more moneyed and political interests in high places ensuring that the US military can easily get their hands on whatever funds they want as opposed to NASA.


In a perfect world, you'd be right and the military budget would be slashed and some of those cutbacks would go to more enlightened interests, but that isn't the way things are.  The people who control the purse strings don't seem to have much interest in giving any more of their cash to NASA, despite how much sense it might make to you or me or others.

Remember the furore earlier this year when the Republicans made a song and dance about cutting the budget for NPR and PBS?  A drop in the ocean compared with what has been thrown at banks and auto companies and what the military machine eats up every year, but they argued over it anyway.  You're not necessarily dealing with entirely rational actors when discussing the behaviour of governments.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

All you guys believing in the moon landing are just as gullible as the UFOs believers. :D  All you have to go on are photos(can be fake), grainy videos(can be fake), and testimonials from people with a lot to gain. Those men who supposedly went to the Moon were plucked from the military. You know those guys will lie for the prestige of the nation. They are no better than the UFOlogists who sell books and give speeches for money. You can't believe a word they say since they have a lot to gain, right? How dare they fooling those UFOs nuts.

Have any of you UFOs skeptics and Moon landing believers went to the Moon?  All you have are photos, videos and testimonials from others. Those same type of evidences are being ridiculed when it's come to UFOs. All they have are fake photos and fake videos. All those testimonials are by liars, people wanting attention, people affected by swamp gas or wild mushroom, drunkards, or people too dumb to recognize Venus, Mars or the Moon etc..

I am with the skeptics. Many skeptics have said the only way they can believe is to have UFOs land on their yard and have an alien body with DNA result to back it up . I demands to be taken to the moon, the only way I will believe is to step foot on the Moon myself. I do not believe in the testimonials of people with ulterior motives, just like those Ufologists with books to sell. Only idiots would believe base on photos, videos and testimonials. If you haven't been to the Moon yourself or shake hand with an aliens, you just cannot believe any of those things. :tu:


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:53 AM

Using your logic, the International Space Station is fake then too. You're saying pretty much anything we haven't been part of is fabricated as we only have photos, witnesses, testimonials and news stories etc. If YOU haven't been there - it didn't happen.

Of course people can believe what they want, that's the beauty of belief - it might not be correct but it doesn't stop people believing.

Grainy videos? How often is grainy CCTV used as evidence, which I may add, holds up pretty well in court - when you're trying to prove something happened.

Of course we went to the moon. We have RADAR that detects objects that could be ballistic missiles in orbit, do you not think Russia might have been tracking the Apollo mission - if it stayed in orbit; I think they might have said something. The lunar landing sites have been observed from Earth and space by countries other than America. I think if they weren't there - we'd know by now.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:03 AM

I think with any planet we want to stay on or build a base would have to have water, to much to ship water there


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:11 AM

View PostSwampgasBalloonBoy, on 04 January 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

All you guys believing in the moon landing are just as gullible as the UFOs believers. :D  All you have to go on are photos(can be fake), grainy videos(can be fake), and testimonials from people with a lot to gain. Those men who supposedly went to the Moon were plucked from the military. You know those guys will lie for the prestige of the nation. They are no better than the UFOlogists who sell books and give speeches for money. You can't believe a word they say since they have a lot to gain, right? How dare they fooling those UFOs nuts.

Have any of you UFOs skeptics and Moon landing believers went to the Moon?  All you have are photos, videos and testimonials from others. Those same type of evidences are being ridiculed when it's come to UFOs. All they have are fake photos and fake videos. All those testimonials are by liars, people wanting attention, people affected by swamp gas or wild mushroom, drunkards, or people too dumb to recognize Venus, Mars or the Moon etc..

I am with the skeptics. Many skeptics have said the only way they can believe is to have UFOs land on their yard and have an alien body with DNA result to back it up . I demands to be taken to the moon, the only way I will believe is to step foot on the Moon myself. I do not believe in the testimonials of people with ulterior motives, just like those Ufologists with books to sell. Only idiots would believe base on photos, videos and testimonials. If you haven't been to the Moon yourself or shake hand with an aliens, you just cannot believe any of those things. :tu:
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:17 AM

I am as serious as many of the skeptics of UFOs. I am using the same logic as them. I just want hard evidence. Since many demanded spaceship land on their yard or alien body, I just demand to be taken to the Moon. Only then will I believe it :D


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:22 AM

If you go to the moon, you'll believe they went in '69 and every time since? Your logic is flawed.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:23 AM

View PostRobbo, on 05 January 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

If you go to the moon, you'll believe they went in '69 and every time since? Your logic is flawed.

yes, If I see some of the stuff left behind. exactly as shown on photos and films


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:29 AM

What about the retro-reflectors? You know the things left behind by the apollo missions. They're about a metre across and observatories on Earth can use lasers to determine the distance of the moon. Or is that BS too.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:31 AM

View PostRobbo, on 05 January 2013 - 01:29 AM, said:

What about the retro-reflectors? You know the things left behind by the apollo missions. They're about a metre across and observatories on Earth can use lasers to determine the distance of the moon. Or is that BS too.

Didn't the Russian also put some stuff on the Moon?


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:37 AM

They did, but in completely different locations. In fact I know you're going to say the Russian stuff was un-manned, but surprisingly all the reflectors left by manned missions are there also, in the places where they coincidently landed.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:37 AM

View PostSwampgasBalloonBoy, on 05 January 2013 - 01:31 AM, said:

Didn't the Russian also put some stuff on the Moon?
You bet they did ! :tu:

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:45 AM

You can put man-made objects on the Moon without having men on the Moon. You can't prove that it was placed there by some using their hand.
Testimonials of just a few men supposedly walked on the Moon is not as strong as testimonials of millions and millions all over the world of different social and economical background that have seen UFOs.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:50 AM

Just as you cannot prove that they didn't happen. Do you agree that there are people, right now, on the international space station?

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